Don't buy cheap wheels!
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insane... good thing he's alright any updates?
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Whoa, this tells a slightly different story! The first pics made me think the spokes broke at the hub, but it doesn't look like that here. It appears the spokes broke at the wheel first, plus the bead splitting from the rim like that.
I definitely call bad casting during manufacturing. Geez, what an amazing failure for wheels that cost that much. I do wonder where they were made.....
I definitely call bad casting during manufacturing. Geez, what an amazing failure for wheels that cost that much. I do wonder where they were made.....
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This can happen on any rim. I work at an Infiniti Dealership and one day a customer had his car towed in saying his rim split in two. Of coarse we thought, Ya ok buddy your a idiot. then sure enough we put it on the hoist saw the rim "funny looking and the tech pulled on the front and well the front of it came right off. the rim split down clean the middle. This was on 2009 $50K car with factory rims made by Enkei. The VP of parts for Infiniti Canada wrote a personal letter and included a letter from Enkei stated "this was most likely due to a casting error further weakened by daily driving conditions until catastrophic failure occurred".
Shitty luck as long as he's ok
Shitty luck as long as he's ok
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I can't find this brand of wheel but at one place online and they are $339.99(CAD) for a 22". That's in the ballpark of an Ultra wheel, even American Racing chrome 22" are around $500 a piece. These are junk with bad casting, probably Chinese knockoffs.
http://northamericanrims.com/products.php?brand_id=33
http://northamericanrims.com/products.php?brand_id=33
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oh i agree that the wheels were a "cheap brand" and most made badly.
i was just saying the guy that bought them didnt exactly cheap out.. and didnt deserve what happened based on what he paid..
the wheels probably suck, but the guy cant be considered a cheapskate after shelling out 3k...
i was just saying the guy that bought them didnt exactly cheap out.. and didnt deserve what happened based on what he paid..
the wheels probably suck, but the guy cant be considered a cheapskate after shelling out 3k...
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3k isn't chump change. But I think you said 3k installed. So that's wheels, tires, mounting, balancing, installation. Wheels might have cost him $2k which still ain't cheap but they're still "off brand."
A lot of Chinese wheel crap is being sold here... who knows what's DOT approved of not. The air cooled VW scene is awash with Chinese wheels but I'm not convinced they're safe.
Glad your buddy is ok hope he sticks with a name brand from now on!
A lot of Chinese wheel crap is being sold here... who knows what's DOT approved of not. The air cooled VW scene is awash with Chinese wheels but I'm not convinced they're safe.
Glad your buddy is ok hope he sticks with a name brand from now on!
oh i agree that the wheels were a "cheap brand" and most made badly.
i was just saying the guy that bought them didnt exactly cheap out.. and didnt deserve what happened based on what he paid..
the wheels probably suck, but the guy cant be considered a cheapskate after shelling out 3k...![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
i was just saying the guy that bought them didnt exactly cheap out.. and didnt deserve what happened based on what he paid..
the wheels probably suck, but the guy cant be considered a cheapskate after shelling out 3k...
![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
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I can't find any information about that anywhere.
I've read that there are recommended performance tests and standards for wheels, but they aren't required.
Not saying you're wrong, I just can't find that anywhere.
I'd like to think there are safety requirements, because I've worried about it before when I was buying wheels.
I've read that there are recommended performance tests and standards for wheels, but they aren't required.
Not saying you're wrong, I just can't find that anywhere.
I'd like to think there are safety requirements, because I've worried about it before when I was buying wheels.
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I can't find any information about that anywhere.
I've read that there are recommended performance tests and standards for wheels, but they aren't required.
Not saying you're wrong, I just can't find that anywhere.
I'd like to think there are safety requirements, because I've worried about it before when I was buying wheels.
I've read that there are recommended performance tests and standards for wheels, but they aren't required.
Not saying you're wrong, I just can't find that anywhere.
I'd like to think there are safety requirements, because I've worried about it before when I was buying wheels.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...dex.html#SN110
Standard No. 110 - Tire Selection and Rims - Passenger Cars, Non-Pneumatic Spare Tire Assemblies for Use on Passenger Cars
(Effective (4-1-68)
This standard specifies requirements for original equipment tire and rim selection on new cars to prevent overloading. These include placard requirements relating to load distribution as well as rim performance requirements under conditions of rapid tire deflation.
Canada rules
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/acts-regulat...sch-iv-120.htm
Last edited by Bdog; 04-22-2010 at 04:19 PM.
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There are performance standards for passenger rims on a US highway.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...dex.html#SN110
Standard No. 110 - Tire Selection and Rims - Passenger Cars, Non-Pneumatic Spare Tire Assemblies for Use on Passenger Cars
(Effective (4-1-68)
This standard specifies requirements for original equipment tire and rim selection on new cars to prevent overloading. These include placard requirements relating to load distribution as well as rim performance requirements under conditions of rapid tire deflation.
Canada rules
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/acts-regulat...sch-iv-120.htm
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...dex.html#SN110
Standard No. 110 - Tire Selection and Rims - Passenger Cars, Non-Pneumatic Spare Tire Assemblies for Use on Passenger Cars
(Effective (4-1-68)
This standard specifies requirements for original equipment tire and rim selection on new cars to prevent overloading. These include placard requirements relating to load distribution as well as rim performance requirements under conditions of rapid tire deflation.
Canada rules
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/acts-regulat...sch-iv-120.htm
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Original Equipment tires and rims are DOT approved and can be used as such. You can buy any car with "aftermarket" rims by any dealer that's now considered OEM, as long as they are marked DOT.
S4.4.2. Rim markings for vehicles other than passenger cars.
Each rim or, at the option of the manufacturer in the case of a
single-piece wheel, each wheel disc shall be marked with the
information listed in S4.4.2(a) through (e), in lettering not less
than 3 millimeters in height, impressed to a depth, or at the option
of the manufacturer, embossed to a height of not less than 0.125
millimeters. The information listed in S4.4.2(a) through (c) shall
appear on the outward side. In the case of rims of multi-piece
construction, the information listed in S4.4.2(a) through (e) shall
appear on the rim base and the information listed in S4.4.2(b) and
(d) shall also appear on each other part of the rim.
(a) A designation that indicates the source of the rim's
published nominal dimensions, as follows:
(1) ``T'' indicates The Tire and Rim Association.
(2) ``E'' indicates The European Tyre and Rim Technical
Organization.
(3) ``J'' indicates Japan Automobile Tire Manufacturers
Association, Inc.
(4) ``L'' indicates ABPA (Brazil), a.k.a. Associacao Latino
Americana De Pneus E Aros.
(5) ``F'' indicates Tire and Rim Engineering Data Committee of
South Africa (Tredco).
(6) ``S'' indicates Scandinavian Tire and Rim Organization
(STRO).
(7) ``A'' indicates The Tyre and Rim Association of Australia.
(8) ``I'' indicates Indian Tyre Technical Advisory Committee
(ITTAC).
(9) ``R'' indicates Argentine Institute of Rationalization of
Materials, a.k.a. Instituto Argentino de Racionalizacion de
Materiales, (ARAM).
(10) ``N'' indicates an independent listing pursuant to S4.1 of
Sec. 571.139 or S5.1(a) of Sec. 571.119 * * *
(c) The symbol DOT, constituting a certification by the
manufacturer of the rim that the rim complies with all applicable
Federal motor vehicle safety standards.
NHTSA Decision
The purpose of the labeling requirements in paragraphs S4.4.2(a)
and S4.4.2(c) of FMVSS No. 110 is to provide safe operation of vehicles
by ensuring that vehicles are equipped with rims of appropriate size
and type designation mounted with compatible tires of appropriate size
and load rating.
The purpose of the ``DOT'' marking is to certify that the rims
comply with all applicable standards, the failure to mark rims with a
DOT symbol is considered a violation of 49 U.S.C. 30115, Certification,
which does not require notification or remedy.
S4.4.2. Rim markings for vehicles other than passenger cars.
Each rim or, at the option of the manufacturer in the case of a
single-piece wheel, each wheel disc shall be marked with the
information listed in S4.4.2(a) through (e), in lettering not less
than 3 millimeters in height, impressed to a depth, or at the option
of the manufacturer, embossed to a height of not less than 0.125
millimeters. The information listed in S4.4.2(a) through (c) shall
appear on the outward side. In the case of rims of multi-piece
construction, the information listed in S4.4.2(a) through (e) shall
appear on the rim base and the information listed in S4.4.2(b) and
(d) shall also appear on each other part of the rim.
(a) A designation that indicates the source of the rim's
published nominal dimensions, as follows:
(1) ``T'' indicates The Tire and Rim Association.
(2) ``E'' indicates The European Tyre and Rim Technical
Organization.
(3) ``J'' indicates Japan Automobile Tire Manufacturers
Association, Inc.
(4) ``L'' indicates ABPA (Brazil), a.k.a. Associacao Latino
Americana De Pneus E Aros.
(5) ``F'' indicates Tire and Rim Engineering Data Committee of
South Africa (Tredco).
(6) ``S'' indicates Scandinavian Tire and Rim Organization
(STRO).
(7) ``A'' indicates The Tyre and Rim Association of Australia.
(8) ``I'' indicates Indian Tyre Technical Advisory Committee
(ITTAC).
(9) ``R'' indicates Argentine Institute of Rationalization of
Materials, a.k.a. Instituto Argentino de Racionalizacion de
Materiales, (ARAM).
(10) ``N'' indicates an independent listing pursuant to S4.1 of
Sec. 571.139 or S5.1(a) of Sec. 571.119 * * *
(c) The symbol DOT, constituting a certification by the
manufacturer of the rim that the rim complies with all applicable
Federal motor vehicle safety standards.
NHTSA Decision
The purpose of the labeling requirements in paragraphs S4.4.2(a)
and S4.4.2(c) of FMVSS No. 110 is to provide safe operation of vehicles
by ensuring that vehicles are equipped with rims of appropriate size
and type designation mounted with compatible tires of appropriate size
and load rating.
The purpose of the ``DOT'' marking is to certify that the rims
comply with all applicable standards, the failure to mark rims with a
DOT symbol is considered a violation of 49 U.S.C. 30115, Certification,
which does not require notification or remedy.
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