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Old 04-20-2010, 08:26 PM
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glad to hear nobody was hurt.

I guess he thinks differently now about cheap wheels?
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:35 PM
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insane... good thing he's alright any updates?
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Some scary stuff here, but...

those wheels on a ridgeline? what was he thinking
Old 04-21-2010, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by majin ssj eric
Why did he pay $3000 for those hideous rims in the first place????
Fixed.
Old 04-21-2010, 04:04 AM
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Never get chrome rims ever...ever
Old 04-21-2010, 07:11 AM
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He's talking to the lawyers today, I'll let you guys know what happens.
Old 04-21-2010, 08:18 AM
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Glad he's okay.
Old 04-21-2010, 12:41 PM
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Ugly truck, ugly wheels, ugly situation.

Glad he's ok.
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Originally Posted by S A CHO
Here's a few more pictures:



Whoa, this tells a slightly different story! The first pics made me think the spokes broke at the hub, but it doesn't look like that here. It appears the spokes broke at the wheel first, plus the bead splitting from the rim like that.

I definitely call bad casting during manufacturing. Geez, what an amazing failure for wheels that cost that much. I do wonder where they were made.....
Old 04-21-2010, 01:25 PM
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This can happen on any rim. I work at an Infiniti Dealership and one day a customer had his car towed in saying his rim split in two. Of coarse we thought, Ya ok buddy your a idiot. then sure enough we put it on the hoist saw the rim "funny looking and the tech pulled on the front and well the front of it came right off. the rim split down clean the middle. This was on 2009 $50K car with factory rims made by Enkei. The VP of parts for Infiniti Canada wrote a personal letter and included a letter from Enkei stated "this was most likely due to a casting error further weakened by daily driving conditions until catastrophic failure occurred".


Shitty luck as long as he's ok
Old 04-21-2010, 01:26 PM
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Great thread. Cheapskates get what they paid for!
Old 04-21-2010, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CL6
Great thread. Cheapskates get what they paid for!
aside from the Title.. what makes the guy a cheapskate...
he paid $3k for the setup

even for 22's thats a hefty amount.
he paid a lot more than most people would consider..

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Old 04-21-2010, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PortlandRL
I'm going to forward this to my buddy who wants to get some cheap knock-offs for his BMW. Scary stuff.

$3K for wheels is not cheap by any stretch of the imagination. Off-brand would be a better term.


EDIT: rockstar beat me to it
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I can't find this brand of wheel but at one place online and they are $339.99(CAD) for a 22". That's in the ballpark of an Ultra wheel, even American Racing chrome 22" are around $500 a piece. These are junk with bad casting, probably Chinese knockoffs.

http://northamericanrims.com/products.php?brand_id=33
Old 04-22-2010, 01:09 AM
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"Off brand" says it all.

You don't always get what you think you paid for.


Originally Posted by sho_nuff1997
$3K for wheels is not cheap by any stretch of the imagination. Off-brand would be a better term.


EDIT: rockstar beat me to it
Old 04-22-2010, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by CL6
"Off brand" says it all.

You don't always get what you think you paid for.
oh i agree that the wheels were a "cheap brand" and most made badly.

i was just saying the guy that bought them didnt exactly cheap out.. and didnt deserve what happened based on what he paid..

the wheels probably suck, but the guy cant be considered a cheapskate after shelling out 3k...
Old 04-22-2010, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockstar21
i feel like somethings missing here.. even the cheapest of wheels have to pass safety standards...
I may be wrong, but I don't think there are safety standards in the US, at least not for aftermarket wheels.
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3k isn't chump change. But I think you said 3k installed. So that's wheels, tires, mounting, balancing, installation. Wheels might have cost him $2k which still ain't cheap but they're still "off brand."

A lot of Chinese wheel crap is being sold here... who knows what's DOT approved of not. The air cooled VW scene is awash with Chinese wheels but I'm not convinced they're safe.

Glad your buddy is ok hope he sticks with a name brand from now on!


Originally Posted by Rockstar21
oh i agree that the wheels were a "cheap brand" and most made badly.

i was just saying the guy that bought them didnt exactly cheap out.. and didnt deserve what happened based on what he paid..

the wheels probably suck, but the guy cant be considered a cheapskate after shelling out 3k...
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Originally Posted by shnee
I may be wrong, but I don't think there are safety standards in the US, at least not for aftermarket wheels.
All wheels sold for street use in the US must meet certain DOT standards for construction. Don't know what the laws are in Canada.
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I can't find any information about that anywhere.
I've read that there are recommended performance tests and standards for wheels, but they aren't required.
Not saying you're wrong, I just can't find that anywhere.
I'd like to think there are safety requirements, because I've worried about it before when I was buying wheels.
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Originally Posted by shnee
I can't find any information about that anywhere.
I've read that there are recommended performance tests and standards for wheels, but they aren't required.
Not saying you're wrong, I just can't find that anywhere.
I'd like to think there are safety requirements, because I've worried about it before when I was buying wheels.
There are performance standards for passenger rims on a US highway.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...dex.html#SN110

Standard No. 110 - Tire Selection and Rims - Passenger Cars, Non-Pneumatic Spare Tire Assemblies for Use on Passenger Cars
(Effective (4-1-68)
This standard specifies requirements for original equipment tire and rim selection on new cars to prevent overloading. These include placard requirements relating to load distribution as well as rim performance requirements under conditions of rapid tire deflation.

Canada rules
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/acts-regulat...sch-iv-120.htm

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Originally Posted by Bdog
There are performance standards for passenger rims on a US highway.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...dex.html#SN110

Standard No. 110 - Tire Selection and Rims - Passenger Cars, Non-Pneumatic Spare Tire Assemblies for Use on Passenger Cars
(Effective (4-1-68)
This standard specifies requirements for original equipment tire and rim selection on new cars to prevent overloading. These include placard requirements relating to load distribution as well as rim performance requirements under conditions of rapid tire deflation.

Canada rules
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/acts-regulat...sch-iv-120.htm

Aftermarket wheels aren't original equipment
Old 04-22-2010, 04:52 PM
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that sucks haha
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Originally Posted by shnee
Aftermarket wheels aren't original equipment
Original Equipment tires and rims are DOT approved and can be used as such. You can buy any car with "aftermarket" rims by any dealer that's now considered OEM, as long as they are marked DOT.

S4.4.2. Rim markings for vehicles other than passenger cars.
Each rim or, at the option of the manufacturer in the case of a
single-piece wheel, each wheel disc shall be marked with the
information listed in S4.4.2(a) through (e), in lettering not less
than 3 millimeters in height, impressed to a depth, or at the option
of the manufacturer, embossed to a height of not less than 0.125
millimeters. The information listed in S4.4.2(a) through (c) shall
appear on the outward side. In the case of rims of multi-piece
construction, the information listed in S4.4.2(a) through (e) shall
appear on the rim base and the information listed in S4.4.2(b) and
(d) shall also appear on each other part of the rim.
(a) A designation that indicates the source of the rim's
published nominal dimensions, as follows:
(1) ``T'' indicates The Tire and Rim Association.
(2) ``E'' indicates The European Tyre and Rim Technical
Organization.
(3) ``J'' indicates Japan Automobile Tire Manufacturers
Association, Inc.
(4) ``L'' indicates ABPA (Brazil), a.k.a. Associacao Latino
Americana De Pneus E Aros.
(5) ``F'' indicates Tire and Rim Engineering Data Committee of
South Africa (Tredco).
(6) ``S'' indicates Scandinavian Tire and Rim Organization
(STRO).
(7) ``A'' indicates The Tyre and Rim Association of Australia.
(8) ``I'' indicates Indian Tyre Technical Advisory Committee
(ITTAC).
(9) ``R'' indicates Argentine Institute of Rationalization of
Materials, a.k.a. Instituto Argentino de Racionalizacion de
Materiales, (ARAM).
(10) ``N'' indicates an independent listing pursuant to S4.1 of
Sec. 571.139 or S5.1(a) of Sec. 571.119 * * *
(c) The symbol DOT, constituting a certification by the
manufacturer of the rim that the rim complies with all applicable
Federal motor vehicle safety standards.


NHTSA Decision

The purpose of the labeling requirements in paragraphs S4.4.2(a)
and S4.4.2(c) of FMVSS No. 110 is to provide safe operation of vehicles
by ensuring that vehicles are equipped with rims of appropriate size
and type designation mounted with compatible tires of appropriate size
and load rating.
The purpose of the ``DOT'' marking is to certify that the rims
comply with all applicable standards, the failure to mark rims with a
DOT symbol is considered a violation of 49 U.S.C. 30115, Certification,
which does not require notification or remedy.


Old 04-23-2010, 06:07 PM
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Sure, aftermarket rims need to meet standards to get the DOT stamp, but they aren't required to get a DOT stamp, as far as I can tell.
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$2k for 22inch rims?
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