Does the M3 Have Any real Comptetion?
#41
Originally posted by topdaytrader
LoL. You guys better have something to back up your bullshits. I tracked many cars at Buttonwillow, street of willow and Calispeedway. Also been to many autox. I've seen S2000, WRX and even a Turbo Miata kick E46 M3's ass up and down. Don't even bring up Z06, M3 is not even its level. Maybe M3 is fast in straight line, but it handles suck like cock whore. If you want a cheap and fast straight line car. Just get a CamaroSS or Mustang Cobra. They only cost half of a M3.
LoL. You guys better have something to back up your bullshits. I tracked many cars at Buttonwillow, street of willow and Calispeedway. Also been to many autox. I've seen S2000, WRX and even a Turbo Miata kick E46 M3's ass up and down. Don't even bring up Z06, M3 is not even its level. Maybe M3 is fast in straight line, but it handles suck like cock whore. If you want a cheap and fast straight line car. Just get a CamaroSS or Mustang Cobra. They only cost half of a M3.
#42
Originally posted by threetwoseeL
you need to chil on that BMW superiority complex "bmw dickhead"
you need to chil on that BMW superiority complex "bmw dickhead"
I know BMW isnt superior... and i can admit the Z06 is a better SPORTS car than the m3... but i was just letting you know that your modded CLS cant hang with the m3 in the twisties. Trust me, i know. But im not saying your CLS isnt fast as hell, and if its supercharged then i know you can kick my ass in a straight run.
#43
M3> than all the cars you guys have mentioned in this thread.
Z06 might be faster, but its still a chevy.
Doesnt matter how u mod a CL-S...it will never handle like a stock m3. You can do engine mods to the CL, but u could also mod a M3..
You guys make the M3 sound like its overpriced...IMHO i think its a "bang for your buck", really good value, just like the CL-S is a good value.
oh and topdaytrader, your a fucking loser...even with all the money u claim u have...too fucking bad you cant buy yourself a life.
id rather have a life, than have the money you claim u have. what a loser.
Z06 might be faster, but its still a chevy.
Doesnt matter how u mod a CL-S...it will never handle like a stock m3. You can do engine mods to the CL, but u could also mod a M3..
You guys make the M3 sound like its overpriced...IMHO i think its a "bang for your buck", really good value, just like the CL-S is a good value.
oh and topdaytrader, your a fucking loser...even with all the money u claim u have...too fucking bad you cant buy yourself a life.
id rather have a life, than have the money you claim u have. what a loser.
#45
Originally posted by frank
i really need to go test drive a bmw cause i really need to see what you guys are talking about. which do i need to test drive...330?
i really need to go test drive a bmw cause i really need to see what you guys are talking about. which do i need to test drive...330?
To compare to a CLS.... i would go test drive the 330 manual. Also, while you are driving it, try to take sharp turns in it.
#48
M3> than all the cars you guys have mentioned in this thread.
Z06 might be faster, but its still a chevy.
theres some great logic right there a chevy that can drive circles around a bmw, utoh, lets come with something to discredit it.
as far as handling arguments, just look up the scca classifications
and for competition-c32 amg sportscoupe
Z06 might be faster, but its still a chevy.
theres some great logic right there a chevy that can drive circles around a bmw, utoh, lets come with something to discredit it.
as far as handling arguments, just look up the scca classifications
and for competition-c32 amg sportscoupe
#49
Originally posted by topdaytrader
Grow up ricer!!! You sound so stupid. I bet you're those ricers just read off the stats from R&T or C&D. Tell me what da hell is a road course to you??? Your fucking neighborhood? Go take some real track driving lesson before you post all your bullshits.
Grow up ricer!!! You sound so stupid. I bet you're those ricers just read off the stats from R&T or C&D. Tell me what da hell is a road course to you??? Your fucking neighborhood? Go take some real track driving lesson before you post all your bullshits.
BTW....Nice Porsche....I doubt its yours though since you have the vocabulary of a 16 year old.
#50
Originally posted by Maximized
My road coarses are Gingerman and Road America buddy. Learn what your talking about and then come back here and talk to me. I get my stats from what I see at the track. I have ridden in an E46 M3 at the track and its handling doesnt suck. Who are you trying to fool here?
BTW....Nice Porsche....I doubt its yours though since you have the vocabulary of a 16 year old.
My road coarses are Gingerman and Road America buddy. Learn what your talking about and then come back here and talk to me. I get my stats from what I see at the track. I have ridden in an E46 M3 at the track and its handling doesnt suck. Who are you trying to fool here?
BTW....Nice Porsche....I doubt its yours though since you have the vocabulary of a 16 year old.
#51
Originally posted by topdaytrader
LoL. You ride in an E46 M3. I fucking drive one on the track and I used drive E36 M3 back in HS. Since your first post, you haven't explain why E46 M3 out handle other cars. You want us to trust your butt dyno??? You're such a ricer and you don't know shit. Btw, I drive a 02 996TT X-50 you dumb ass.
LoL. You ride in an E46 M3. I fucking drive one on the track and I used drive E36 M3 back in HS. Since your first post, you haven't explain why E46 M3 out handle other cars. You want us to trust your butt dyno??? You're such a ricer and you don't know shit. Btw, I drive a 02 996TT X-50 you dumb ass.
Move along...You dont know what you are talking about.
#53
Originally posted by Maximized
Great and I am proud that you drive a 996 TT. Doesnt mean that you know anything or can drive. I still dont believe you own that car in the picture, but oh well. Those houses in the background dont fit the car. Plus your educational level is lacking.... Better education= More money. Maybe you should spend some money on learning proper grammar and vocabulary. As for a E46 M3, it will rape a S2k and WRX on a road course.
Move along...You dont know what you are talking about.
Great and I am proud that you drive a 996 TT. Doesnt mean that you know anything or can drive. I still dont believe you own that car in the picture, but oh well. Those houses in the background dont fit the car. Plus your educational level is lacking.... Better education= More money. Maybe you should spend some money on learning proper grammar and vocabulary. As for a E46 M3, it will rape a S2k and WRX on a road course.
Move along...You dont know what you are talking about.
#55
Originally posted by topdaytrader
Lol. just cut your bullshit kid. You don't even have guts to post pics of your car. Get lost!
Lol. just cut your bullshit kid. You don't even have guts to post pics of your car. Get lost!
#57
Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS
topdaytrader and maximized please keep the personal attacks to a minimum. thanx
topdaytrader and maximized please keep the personal attacks to a minimum. thanx
#58
there's no reason to be such an ass daytrader. looking at the post you have in this thread, you make yourself look like an obnoxious fool. looks like $$ can't buy everything, if you even have any... :o
#64
Originally posted by topdaytrader
Man, you guys are fucking bunch of ricers. I bet you guys are all under 20 and never been to the track. I'm not talking about drag stips, I mean the real fucking track. M3 is for girls. How you fucking race w/ 3500lbs car? I tracked a E46 M3 and it handles like shit. Even WRX can spank its ass. Not to mention I toy around M3 w/my 996TT X50. LOL.
Man, you guys are fucking bunch of ricers. I bet you guys are all under 20 and never been to the track. I'm not talking about drag stips, I mean the real fucking track. M3 is for girls. How you fucking race w/ 3500lbs car? I tracked a E46 M3 and it handles like shit. Even WRX can spank its ass. Not to mention I toy around M3 w/my 996TT X50. LOL.
The E46 M3 will spank most street cars. No, the car is not perfect. It is heavier than it should be. As for you seeing "lesser" cars passing an M3 at the track, if you actually knew anything about driving then you would know that it depends on the driver. In novice run groups, you will see old BMWs and WRXs passing modified Vipers, big deal. Take a look at who is spanking who in the upper-level run groups at most track days, the E46 M3 is a very fast car. A WRX cannot keep up.
As for the weight, your 911 Turbo is 250lbs heavier than the M3. And looking at the hard data on cornering speeds in the R&T handling test, has comperable cornerning speeds.
btw, my 5th roadcourse weekend this year is in two weeks.
#65
Originally posted by someguy
Damn, you are ignorant.
The E46 M3 will spank most street cars. No, the car is not perfect. It is heavier than it should be. As for you seeing "lesser" cars passing an M3 at the track, if you actually knew anything about driving then you would know that it depends on the driver. In novice run groups, you will see old BMWs and WRXs passing modified Vipers, big deal. Take a look at who is spanking who in the upper-level run groups at most track days, the E46 M3 is a very fast car. A WRX cannot keep up.
As for the weight, your 911 Turbo is 250lbs heavier than the M3. And looking at the hard data on cornering speeds in the R&T handling test, has comperable cornerning speeds.
btw, my 5th roadcourse weekend this year is in two weeks.
Damn, you are ignorant.
The E46 M3 will spank most street cars. No, the car is not perfect. It is heavier than it should be. As for you seeing "lesser" cars passing an M3 at the track, if you actually knew anything about driving then you would know that it depends on the driver. In novice run groups, you will see old BMWs and WRXs passing modified Vipers, big deal. Take a look at who is spanking who in the upper-level run groups at most track days, the E46 M3 is a very fast car. A WRX cannot keep up.
As for the weight, your 911 Turbo is 250lbs heavier than the M3. And looking at the hard data on cornering speeds in the R&T handling test, has comperable cornerning speeds.
btw, my 5th roadcourse weekend this year is in two weeks.
#66
Originally posted by topdaytrader
Oh no. Not another fucking R&T ricer on this board!!! Did you said M3 corner faster than 996TT? LOL, this is the most ridiculus bullshit I heard. Did you ever track M3 and 996T? I doubt you ever ride in them. You should post this in the Porsche board, so we can fucking laugh your ass off.
Oh no. Not another fucking R&T ricer on this board!!! Did you said M3 corner faster than 996TT? LOL, this is the most ridiculus bullshit I heard. Did you ever track M3 and 996T? I doubt you ever ride in them. You should post this in the Porsche board, so we can fucking laugh your ass off.
#67
Originally posted by Beltfed
You don't own a 996 TT......unless its your father's. I can tell just by your above commentary. No person who drives a $150k X50 packaged 911 would even bother (or have the mentality) typing the cynical nonsense you just typed.
You don't own a 996 TT......unless its your father's. I can tell just by your above commentary. No person who drives a $150k X50 packaged 911 would even bother (or have the mentality) typing the cynical nonsense you just typed.
#69
Originally posted by Beltfed
You don't own a 996 TT......unless its your father's. I can tell just by your above commentary. No person who drives a $150k X50 packaged 911 would even bother (or have the mentality) typing the cynical nonsense you just typed.
You don't own a 996 TT......unless its your father's. I can tell just by your above commentary. No person who drives a $150k X50 packaged 911 would even bother (or have the mentality) typing the cynical nonsense you just typed.
#70
um, topgaytrader, beltfed's not a total ass like you. that's why he's here.
why are you here? none of us like you, your comments make no sense and neither does your grammer.
kindly go yourself, thx
why are you here? none of us like you, your comments make no sense and neither does your grammer.
kindly go yourself, thx
#71
btw, why do u call us ricers? There are very few ricers on this board. Since u love to "pick on ricers" why not go to a civic board? Oh btw, u claim to sell xenons....so u are a ricer too! Gotcha bitch!
haha ricer!
haha ricer!
#72
Originally posted by topdaytrader
LoL. you drive a Viper and you're here too. What's your point?
LoL. you drive a Viper and you're here too. What's your point?
You don't think this board had others in the past or still has people like you on here? It really isn't so hard to pick out lying sacks of shit and those who are truthful.
Not sure what Porsche board your "supposidely" on, but nobody on Rennlist acts like you.
With that, how do you like my new car
#73
Originally posted by topdaytrader
Oh no. Not another fucking R&T ricer on this board!!! Did you said M3 corner faster than 996TT? LOL, this is the most ridiculus bullshit I heard. Did you ever track M3 and 996T? I doubt you ever ride in them. You should post this in the Porsche board, so we can fucking laugh your ass off. M3's brake start to fade after 2-3 hot laps on the track. Not to mention the ridiculous understeerling. M3 is for posers like you. Go watch the previous Best Motoring. Even 99' 996 can spank E46 M3's ass on the track easily. M3 is not built for track. Period.
Oh no. Not another fucking R&T ricer on this board!!! Did you said M3 corner faster than 996TT? LOL, this is the most ridiculus bullshit I heard. Did you ever track M3 and 996T? I doubt you ever ride in them. You should post this in the Porsche board, so we can fucking laugh your ass off. M3's brake start to fade after 2-3 hot laps on the track. Not to mention the ridiculous understeerling. M3 is for posers like you. Go watch the previous Best Motoring. Even 99' 996 can spank E46 M3's ass on the track easily. M3 is not built for track. Period.
The only ricer I see here is you. You speak without any knowledge of anything. All you probably do is read magazines. A M3 isnt built for a track LOL. Tell me why every BMW is tested at the world famous Nurburgring, just like Porsche. I can by the way you talk about M3s that you have NO EXPERIENCE on a track. Keep playing Gran Turismo 3.
You dont own a Porsche, so quit talking about it. Heres how I am positive you dont own a 996TT..... You speak and write at a 11th grade level. Secondly, that picture you posted was in front of houses that aren't worth as much as the car. Nice try....Move along now.
#74
Originally posted by Maximized
The only ricer I see here is you. You speak without any knowledge of anything. All you probably do is read magazines. A M3 isnt built for a track LOL. Tell me why every BMW is tested at the world famous Nurburgring, just like Porsche. I can by the way you talk about M3s that you have NO EXPERIENCE on a track. Keep playing Gran Turismo 3.
You dont own a Porsche, so quit talking about it. Heres how I am positive you dont own a 996TT..... You speak and write at a 11th grade level. Secondly, that picture you posted was in front of houses that aren't worth as much as the car. Nice try....Move along now.
The only ricer I see here is you. You speak without any knowledge of anything. All you probably do is read magazines. A M3 isnt built for a track LOL. Tell me why every BMW is tested at the world famous Nurburgring, just like Porsche. I can by the way you talk about M3s that you have NO EXPERIENCE on a track. Keep playing Gran Turismo 3.
You dont own a Porsche, so quit talking about it. Heres how I am positive you dont own a 996TT..... You speak and write at a 11th grade level. Secondly, that picture you posted was in front of houses that aren't worth as much as the car. Nice try....Move along now.
#75
Not to mention most people in 996 turbos don't track em at all. 914s are the Porsches to track. And BMW realizes the M3 is getting heavier and heavier, hence the forthcoming M3 CSL, 400lbs ligher and 350hp. Not bad from a naturally aspirated engine. Though I LOVE Porsches and the 996, your making owners looke terrible.
#76
why do u guys even bother with this topdaytrader clown?? He's been busted for :
- that nonsense he was tryin to feed everyone on here about the dopey xenon he sells...
- posting someone else's TL, pretending like its his and pretending like it had 8000k bulbs while it actually had 6000...
- he's been busted on the nsx forum too...
- he talks out of his ass 99% of the time and now THIS........
i seriously doubt he owns ANY car, let alone that porsche he has the pic of (which i'm willing to bet is SOMEONE ELSE's) and IF it is his then he lives in a shitty neighborhood and shouldnt be driving anything over a corolla anyway.....
By the way he talks, i'm sure he's some 13 yr old kid who rides around in his sister's bicycle and doesnt have anything better to do then waste his time and everyone else's along with it so......
JUST IGNORE HIM
- that nonsense he was tryin to feed everyone on here about the dopey xenon he sells...
- posting someone else's TL, pretending like its his and pretending like it had 8000k bulbs while it actually had 6000...
- he's been busted on the nsx forum too...
- he talks out of his ass 99% of the time and now THIS........
i seriously doubt he owns ANY car, let alone that porsche he has the pic of (which i'm willing to bet is SOMEONE ELSE's) and IF it is his then he lives in a shitty neighborhood and shouldnt be driving anything over a corolla anyway.....
By the way he talks, i'm sure he's some 13 yr old kid who rides around in his sister's bicycle and doesnt have anything better to do then waste his time and everyone else's along with it so......
JUST IGNORE HIM
#77
Originally posted by shaHn78
why do u guys even bother with this topdaytrader clown?? He's been busted for :
- that nonsense he was tryin to feed everyone on here about the dopey xenon he sells...
- posting someone else's TL, pretending like its his and pretending like it had 8000k bulbs while it actually had 6000...
- he's been busted on the nsx forum too...
- he talks out of his ass 99% of the time and now THIS........
i seriously doubt he owns ANY car, let alone that porsche he has the pic of (which i'm willing to bet is SOMEONE ELSE's) and IF it is his then he lives in a shitty neighborhood and shouldnt be driving anything over a corolla anyway.....
By the way he talks, i'm sure he's some 13 yr old kid who rides around in his sister's bicycle and doesnt have anything better to do then waste his time and everyone else's along with it so......
JUST IGNORE HIM
why do u guys even bother with this topdaytrader clown?? He's been busted for :
- that nonsense he was tryin to feed everyone on here about the dopey xenon he sells...
- posting someone else's TL, pretending like its his and pretending like it had 8000k bulbs while it actually had 6000...
- he's been busted on the nsx forum too...
- he talks out of his ass 99% of the time and now THIS........
i seriously doubt he owns ANY car, let alone that porsche he has the pic of (which i'm willing to bet is SOMEONE ELSE's) and IF it is his then he lives in a shitty neighborhood and shouldnt be driving anything over a corolla anyway.....
By the way he talks, i'm sure he's some 13 yr old kid who rides around in his sister's bicycle and doesnt have anything better to do then waste his time and everyone else's along with it so......
JUST IGNORE HIM
Can I get a "AMEN"!
#78
Originally posted by topdaytrader
Oh no. Not another fucking R&T ricer on this board!!! Did you said M3 corner faster than 996TT? LOL, this is the most ridiculus bullshit I heard. Did you ever track M3 and 996T? I doubt you ever ride in them. You should post this in the Porsche board, so we can fucking laugh your ass off. M3's brake start to fade after 2-3 hot laps on the track. Not to mention the ridiculous understeerling. M3 is for posers like you. Go watch the previous Best Motoring. Even 99' 996 can spank E46 M3's ass on the track easily. M3 is not built for track. Period.
Oh no. Not another fucking R&T ricer on this board!!! Did you said M3 corner faster than 996TT? LOL, this is the most ridiculus bullshit I heard. Did you ever track M3 and 996T? I doubt you ever ride in them. You should post this in the Porsche board, so we can fucking laugh your ass off. M3's brake start to fade after 2-3 hot laps on the track. Not to mention the ridiculous understeerling. M3 is for posers like you. Go watch the previous Best Motoring. Even 99' 996 can spank E46 M3's ass on the track easily. M3 is not built for track. Period.
I don't think anyone has said that an M3 is faster than a 996TT. I only refereced that article because it has a breakdown of cornering speeds, exit speeds, etc. The in the transition segment, the M3 is 3.5mph faster at the 2nd Apex (Do you need me to define this for you?) Your 911 Turbo understeers a lot more than the M3 does, I'll take the advice of a race driver over yours. M3s brakes are not up to Porsche standards, of course. The M3 is $45K, your car was $150K. I would expect more.
You are not mature enough to drive such a nice car, what a waste.
btw, I like how you reference Best Motoring, but take objection to the tables in R&T. The M3 ceratinly isn't perfect, but it is a great compromise GT car; especially for the price.
Grow up. I'm done with your bullshit.
#79
Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
To compare to a CLS.... i would go test drive the 330 manual. Also, while you are driving it, try to take sharp turns in it.
To compare to a CLS.... i would go test drive the 330 manual. Also, while you are driving it, try to take sharp turns in it.
now i finally understand the compliments on the 330! still a few more dollars than i have to spend, but i would buy on if i had the money to spend. now i can't imagine how fast the m3 is!!
#80
Originally posted by Beltfed
I actually OWN an Acura CL and a Viper, I'm on this board and Viperclub.org....few others as well.
You don't think this board had others in the past or still has people like you on here? It really isn't so hard to pick out lying sacks of shit and those who are truthful.
Not sure what Porsche board your "supposidely" on, but nobody on Rennlist acts like you.
With that, how do you like my new car
I actually OWN an Acura CL and a Viper, I'm on this board and Viperclub.org....few others as well.
You don't think this board had others in the past or still has people like you on here? It really isn't so hard to pick out lying sacks of shit and those who are truthful.
Not sure what Porsche board your "supposidely" on, but nobody on Rennlist acts like you.
With that, how do you like my new car