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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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Both our cars are manuals..one 6 speed and one 5 speed.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 08:54 AM
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Along with others, I agree that there is nothing like shifting and rowing your own gears. The mechanical feel or the possibility to hold a gear longer to hear the engine is quite satisfying. However the dual clutch trannies are starting to be an alternative option as it does everything like revmatching but quicker by itself. But I will stick on shifting myself for now.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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In 5 years or so. The Japanese will stop making V6/MT, the sales figures for them are already pretty sad. I think only option than will be German cars for that.

4 cyl//turbo on the other hand will still be kind of easy to find.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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I love my 6mt.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by v6cord2k5
So you just called yourself a "cocksuckerpicklepuffinghomo?"


My first 10 cars over a 20 year period were all manuals.

After a while though, you just get sick of it.....especially if you are in a large metro area with traffic. Thus, the TSX was my first automatic.

That being said, I get my manual trans fix with the 968 so I didn't give up that much.

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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by v6cord2k5
Sometimes I just pretend I'm driving a stick shift when I'm driving my car...

Only reason I have auto is so my mom could drive it. Kinda sucked paying for something I didn't like but my next car will be a stick shift by all means necessary.
same situation as me buddy
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
ummm...you NEVER could get the A3 with quattro and a manual. Its only ever been offered on the FWD model.

And I will only drive stick. I do steal my wifes civic on occasion for the gas mileage and ease of not shifting...but then I always hate getting into corners because I can't control the gearbox.
I meant it in the way that Audi used to offer quattro and a manual. now it doesnt even do it on it's cheapest model.


Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Really now

please stop posting until youve done a little research and you can come back knowing what youre talking about.

what exactly did I say wrong.
you dont agree that those 3 cars i mentioned get quicker times with a Twin Clutch? maybe you need to do some research.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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Traded an 04 AT TSX in for a 04 MT TSX so I love my manuals.

Having said that I'm looking forward to getting a dual clutch in my next car. Ease of traffic and shutting up the wife as the top 2 reason for that.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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I want an MT
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by nokiaman
Along with others, I agree that there is nothing like shifting and rowing your own gears. The mechanical feel or the possibility to hold a gear longer to hear the engine is quite satisfying. However the dual clutch trannies are starting to be an alternative option as it does everything like revmatching but quicker by itself. But I will stick on shifting myself for now.
I've always been a 3 pedal guy but i was at the porsche dealership for my safety check last week and 90% of the 997.2s are pdk. I was chatting with the head service guy and he said launch control with the pdk is awesome. I've been too busy to test-drive the pdk but may swing by this 3 day weekend to check it out.

Goddam sounds like a F-14!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNSjtOV_U-M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSYvT455sNI
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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Two reasons for getting the auto:

1) the wife did not want to row the gears IF she drove it.

2) the extra 3 to 4 grand for the same car was not what I wanted to spend.

I'm very happy with the car, but boy did I screw up. I should have gotten the 6MT.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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3-4k more for the same car? what do you mean? In my experience manuals are like 1-2k cheaper.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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He bought his used and clearly it wasn't cheaper because the 6MT is rarer.
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Old Feb 13, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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I have only had one auto ever.
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Danil ACE
He bought his used and clearly it wasn't cheaper because the 6MT is rarer.
Abolutely. The SpecB package on a 3.0R and 6MT is the rarest model next to the limited edition cars (S402, Blitzen).

The 3.0R spec B 5EAT runs about $18K - $20K, the 6MT starts at $22K, and you'll get lucky if it hasn't been modified. That's why I got the auto, and also did not get the turbo. Less wear.

But given a preference, the 6MT FTMFW.

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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 06:52 AM
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If one doesn't count my the Altima 3.5SE we bought for our son, all of the cars the wife and I use (00 Quest, 05 Murano and 07 AV6) are automatic. Of the three, only Accord could have been (and almost was) purchased with an MT. (We used to own three MT cars: 87 Excel, 89 Colt GT and 94 626 LX)

I just did not want to hear my wife's complaints about the AV6 being stick. I will likely not purchase an MT again unless I get a roadster (i.e.: Z4, 350z, etc,...)
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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I have only bought one automatic as my personal driving machine and the reason I did that was because I thought I was going to tow a boat with it. Turns out, we towed with my wife's car.

I will not even consider the purchase of a car, no matter how much I may like what it offers and how it looks, if it does not have a manual transmission. That is an absolute must with me.. no compromises and no substitutes.
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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I regretted so much of getting an auto for my TL... I should have just waited...

My next car will be manual for sure.
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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The only automatic I'd consider is in a classic muscle car for weekend use only. My first car, a '72 Skylark, was an auto, but with the torque of the 350, a B&M shift kit and gate shifter it was tons of fun.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by surfer rick
I've always been a 3 pedal guy but i was at the porsche dealership for my safety check last week and 90% of the 997.2s are pdk. I was chatting with the head service guy and he said launch control with the pdk is awesome. I've been too busy to test-drive the pdk but may swing by this 3 day weekend to check it out.
I agree that the launch control is awesome, but the fact is that who is going to use it all the time? Is it really a useful feature? Are people going to "race" *cough* launch at every freaking stoplight?

I'm a manual transmission guy. I have been driving MT for all my life. The only way to get me into driving a dual-clutch type transmission is when driving on the tracks. Even so, the only good dual-clutch type transmission is one that responds very quickly (like in milli- or even micro-seconds). So far on the market, I don't think there is that many.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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My Audi is a 6MT and it was the only one within a 50 mile radius back when I was searching. They are getting really hard to find and now the only way is to probably special order one. A 6MT is fun except when you're driving in rush hour traffic at 5mph speeds, stop and go. That's when I wish for DSG or something similar.

Driving around the hills of San Francisco with a manual is pretty fun too...
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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I do... Four cars on the property, all manual.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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I drove stick for my first seven years of driving....then I got married to a woman I couldn't teach to drive a manual. My S2000, now in my possession for almost a year, is the first manual I've bought since then. I love to shift, and I will try to always keep one manual in the garage, but it's great to have a DD that you don't have to work hard to shift in daily traffic.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JS + TL
I regretted so much of getting an auto for my TL... I should have just waited...

My next car will be manual for sure.
Likewise, the 07 AV6 I have is much better served with a 6MT. The 5AT is terrible as it kills what little torque it has. My old 02 Maxima on the otherhand was great with a 4AT but even greater with the 6MT.
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Old Feb 19, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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First and last automatic I bought was the '01 CLS. Got tired of that and got a '03 6MT CLS and haven't looked back. Just the transmission on this car makes it a completely different beast. It's night and day. Luckily my wife can drive manuals so until I get arthritis I'll always buy a manual. . .
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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The last 3 cars I've had have been m/t, then there was an auto, then there was 2 m/t's before that, so I like the clutching and shifting aspect.

At least the performance penalty of having an auto is starting to go away with the better and more aggressive autoshifting transmissions. The 6AT ZF in the latest BMW's is just as fast down the 1/4 mile as the 6m/t is. The VW DSG is actually faster than it's manual counterpart.
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Old Feb 20, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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6mt my (1) daily driver, (2) only car.

i don't even complain about 6mt in traffic. if anything, i'm complaining about the traffic, not the 6mt.
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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My G is the first car I've owned with the manual and it has a lot heavier clutch than the Hondas I've driven around in. Took a while to get used to, but I can't imagine going back to the days of putzing around in an automatic.

Buying the manual was a bit of a selfish purchase -- wife cannot drive a stick and she's worried she'll mess up the G if she learns on it. Well ... that's a win-win for me! My wife knew I had to buy this car before we settle down and start a family ... or else I'd have to wait for the mid-life crisis to buy a sporty car.
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 01:00 AM
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Manual allllll the way baby!!!
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 02:32 AM
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My next car has to be manual....
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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The new 370Z perfectly blips the throttle for you on downshifts

This is going to bridge the gap between MT and SMT.
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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I'd never buy an automatic but I might do DSG because I can't help but appreciate what it brings to the table. I doubt it will be as much fun but at least it won't be spongy and reluctant like AT with sports shift.
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
the only time i ever regretted manual was when i sat in inching traffic for an hr and i moved like 20 ft.
Why didn't you just turn off the car?

I'm just happy my girl drives stick and enjoys it. If/when we get married, transmission choice will not be an issue.
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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My first car was a manual, but I could never get the hang of the clutch. Gotta release it a certain amount, then start hitting the gas pedal. I'd always either slam forward when the clutch would kick out, or roll backwards from taking too long to let out the clutch, or I wouldn't give enough gas when the clutch was released, so the engine would shut off

Of course I'd love to get back into it and try it again. Bad part is that I can't find a good car to practice on, unless I decide to spend a couple hundred on some hunk of crap at the used car lot.
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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My first car was a manual, but I could never get the hang of the clutch. Gotta release it a certain amount, then start hitting the gas pedal. I'd always either slam forward when the clutch would kick out, or roll backwards from taking too long to let out the clutch, or I wouldn't give enough gas when the clutch was released, so the engine would shut off

Of course I'd love to get back into it and try it again. Bad part is that I can't find a good car to practice on, unless I decide to spend a couple hundred on some hunk of crap at the used car lot.
gas first then clutch always, that might help your problems after a little while you'll get a feel for exactly where the clutch engages and it'll be automatic, when starting you have to hold the clutch at the friction point alot longer to let the car hookup compared to higher gears
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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im loyal to performance. As soon as dual clutches are more widely available, ill stop driving stick
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mreh
gas first then clutch always, that might help your problems after a little while you'll get a feel for exactly where the clutch engages and it'll be automatic, when starting you have to hold the clutch at the friction point alot longer to let the car hookup compared to higher gears


a good tip my friend taught me which I use to this day, everyday... just rev the engine up to about 1200-1400 rpm, then gradually let out the clutch until where it engages and then ease up on the gas at the same time (once it starts catching)

I've driven a few cars where the clutch engagement was really weird, but I'm sure after driving it for a long time anyone could get used to it.
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