Do not buy....
06-14-2018, 07:36 AM
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Do not buy....
A new Altima. Had one for a rental. Most boring powerless buzzy CVT flying couch I have ever driven. Ugh. That is all. have a nice day.
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06-14-2018, 09:51 AM
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It's one thing for Nissan to use CVTs... it's a whole other thing for Infiniti to use CVTs... that's something that I don't understand whatsoever.
06-14-2018, 09:57 AM
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Nissan's have headed downhill IMO, especially the mid and lower models like the Sentra and Altima. I don't mind the Maxima though. They're still pretty decent. I owned a '94 Altima and was pretty happy with it. But riding in both a newer Sentra and Altima - I was not impressed.
I'd like to think they're still somewhat independent since Renault bought them but I think that's wishful thinking. And I wouldn't want anything that is remotely influenced by Fiat or Renault.
I'd like to think they're still somewhat independent since Renault bought them but I think that's wishful thinking. And I wouldn't want anything that is remotely influenced by Fiat or Renault.
06-14-2018, 10:18 AM
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Both throttle bodies on my 370z have "Nissan Renault Hitachi" stamped on them 
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06-14-2018, 02:37 PM
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I have to believe most people on this site are not in their demographic, so I'm sure they won't be buying one 
That said my parents have been leasing them since 1994 and they love them. Just got a new one a couple months ago actually. So, as with any car... some people like what others may not.
That said my parents have been leasing them since 1994 and they love them. Just got a new one a couple months ago actually. So, as with any car... some people like what others may not.
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06-16-2018, 05:26 PM
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I had a rental Infinit Q50 sedan last Fall-never again would I drive one of those POS's on purpose. I hated that god damn car.
06-18-2018, 08:03 AM
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06-19-2018, 09:08 AM
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Assumption. Maybe the rental Q50 was the N/A 3.7? I drove one a while back, Q50a I think, and was less than impressed.
06-19-2018, 12:29 PM
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I'm really curious to know why it is so terrible.
On paper it looks good. I've had the 3.7 and 7 AT combo before (had a 370Z). Nissan FM platform is pretty good. Q50's styling is good too.
On paper it looks good. I've had the 3.7 and 7 AT combo before (had a 370Z). Nissan FM platform is pretty good. Q50's styling is good too.
06-19-2018, 01:17 PM
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It could have been the crappy test drive for me. It was at a Carmax, AWD Q50a combined with their square, around the block test drive didn't give a lot of feedback.
I do agree that the Q50 is a good looking car, though the dual screen setup takes a little adjustment.
I do agree that the Q50 is a good looking car, though the dual screen setup takes a little adjustment.
06-19-2018, 01:46 PM
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The car gets plenty of hate these days because Nissan has done zero mechanical changes to the car since they released it in 2009.
I myself have a Nismo, so I get a wee bit more power over a regular 370z (350hp vs 332hp). Overall, the car is wonderful to drive. It's one of the remaining cars still out there that give you some serious driver feedback. Still uses hydraulic steering, so you feel everything through the wheel (in a good way). It's loud AF when you hit redline at 7500rpm (not too shabby for a 3.7L V6, revving that high). The shifter feels crisp. The synchro rev match system works nicely (though I turn it off often, as I like to rev match the car myself). The clutch feels sporty. The recaros are comfy. The akebono big brakes front and back stand up very well to avoiding brake fade at the track.
The suspension is stiff but the wheels are massive... 9.5" upfront, 10.5" in the back... they actually soak up the bumps very nicely, so although stiff, it isnt uncomfortable by any stretch. I like the meaty tire look, so I upped the tires to 285 up front (stock is 245), and 325 in the back (stock is 285). Soaks up bumps even nicer now and still a nice sporty feeling suspension.
While sporty cars easily are pushing well into the 400hp range, the 370z has more than enough power to get you in trouble. A lot of trouble, hahaha. It's a blast to hoon at the track and the car's strongest suit is it's looks. The Nismo looks aggressive AF and people just stare at this thing. I come out of the grocery store and see people taking pictures of it/beside it I've never owned a car that has garnered so much attention. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing- depends on the person, I suppose.
oh, and there's a ton of alcantara (sp?) on the inside. It's so wonderful to touch, especially on the steering wheel.
Not surprisingly, the infotainment is dated. Maps look nice on the navi screen, but the Bluetooth can be a pain, often times. It's all good once connected, but there are times it takes 5 minutes to connect if switching between devices (say from one phone, to another phone). If it pairs to the same device, it's generally pretty good.
Also, the biggest piss off- there are certain features in the car you can't operate when the car is moving. Fucking annoying. Yeah, they call it a safety thing, but some stuff you can change, while others you can't.... and they'll be in the same fucking menu!!! Recently I had a passenger who wanted to connect their phone to the stereo... nope. Need to stop to do so. Not exactly easy when on the highway
The aftermarket support is massive for this car. But be weary- Most nothing is cheap.
Mine is a 2016, but I have it riding on 2013-2014 370z Nismo wheels.. just like the look better. Wheels are made by Rays (volk, etc)... never thought I'd have a car sitting on Rays... with another set (the oem wheels) sitting on my shelf
I myself have a Nismo, so I get a wee bit more power over a regular 370z (350hp vs 332hp). Overall, the car is wonderful to drive. It's one of the remaining cars still out there that give you some serious driver feedback. Still uses hydraulic steering, so you feel everything through the wheel (in a good way). It's loud AF when you hit redline at 7500rpm (not too shabby for a 3.7L V6, revving that high). The shifter feels crisp. The synchro rev match system works nicely (though I turn it off often, as I like to rev match the car myself). The clutch feels sporty. The recaros are comfy. The akebono big brakes front and back stand up very well to avoiding brake fade at the track.
The suspension is stiff but the wheels are massive... 9.5" upfront, 10.5" in the back... they actually soak up the bumps very nicely, so although stiff, it isnt uncomfortable by any stretch. I like the meaty tire look, so I upped the tires to 285 up front (stock is 245), and 325 in the back (stock is 285). Soaks up bumps even nicer now and still a nice sporty feeling suspension.
While sporty cars easily are pushing well into the 400hp range, the 370z has more than enough power to get you in trouble. A lot of trouble, hahaha. It's a blast to hoon at the track and the car's strongest suit is it's looks. The Nismo looks aggressive AF and people just stare at this thing. I come out of the grocery store and see people taking pictures of it/beside it
I've never owned a car that has garnered so much attention. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing- depends on the person, I suppose.oh, and there's a ton of alcantara (sp?) on the inside. It's so wonderful to touch, especially on the steering wheel.
Not surprisingly, the infotainment is dated. Maps look nice on the navi screen, but the Bluetooth can be a pain, often times. It's all good once connected, but there are times it takes 5 minutes to connect if switching between devices (say from one phone, to another phone). If it pairs to the same device, it's generally pretty good.
Also, the biggest piss off- there are certain features in the car you can't operate when the car is moving. Fucking annoying. Yeah, they call it a safety thing, but some stuff you can change, while others you can't.... and they'll be in the same fucking menu!!! Recently I had a passenger who wanted to connect their phone to the stereo... nope. Need to stop to do so. Not exactly easy when on the highway
The aftermarket support is massive for this car. But be weary- Most nothing is cheap.
Mine is a 2016, but I have it riding on 2013-2014 370z Nismo wheels.. just like the look better. Wheels are made by Rays (volk, etc)... never thought I'd have a car sitting on Rays... with another set (the oem wheels) sitting on my shelf
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06-19-2018, 01:53 PM
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The car gets plenty of hate these days because Nissan has done zero mechanical changes to the car since they released it in 2009.
I myself have a Nismo, so I get a wee bit more power over a regular 370z (350hp vs 332hp). Overall, the car is wonderful to drive. It's one of the remaining cars still out there that give you some serious driver feedback. Still uses hydraulic steering, so you feel everything through the wheel (in a good way). It's loud AF when you hit redline at 7500rpm (not too shabby for a 3.7L V6, revving that high). The shifter feels crisp. The synchro rev match system works nicely (though I turn it off often, as I like to rev match the car myself). The clutch feels sporty. The recaros are comfy. The akebono big brakes front and back stand up very well to avoiding brake fade at the track.
The suspension is stiff but the wheels are massive... 9.5" upfront, 10.5" in the back... they actually soak up the bumps very nicely, so although stiff, it isnt uncomfortable by any stretch. I like the meaty tire look, so I upped the tires to 285 up front (stock is 245), and 325 in the back (stock is 285). Soaks up bumps even nicer now and still a nice sporty feeling suspension.
While sporty cars easily are pushing well into the 400hp range, the 370z has more than enough power to get you in trouble. A lot of trouble, hahaha. It's a blast to hoon at the track and the car's strongest suit is it's looks. The Nismo looks aggressive AF and people just stare at this thing. I come out of the grocery store and see people taking pictures of it/beside it I've never owned a car that has garnered so much attention. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing- depends on the person, I suppose.
oh, and there's a ton of alcantara (sp?) on the inside. It's so wonderful to touch, especially on the steering wheel.
Not surprisingly, the infotainment is dated. Maps look nice on the navi screen, but the Bluetooth can be a pain, often times. It's all good once connected, but there are times it takes 5 minutes to connect if switching between devices (say from one phone, to another phone). If it pairs to the same device, it's generally pretty good.
Also, the biggest piss off- there are certain features in the car you can't operate when the car is moving. Fucking annoying. Yeah, they call it a safety thing, but some stuff you can change, while others you can't.... and they'll be in the same fucking menu!!! Recently I had a passenger who wanted to connect their phone to the stereo... nope. Need to stop to do so. Not exactly easy when on the highway
The aftermarket support is massive for this car. But be weary- Most nothing is cheap.
Mine is a 2016, but I have it riding on 2013-2014 370z Nismo wheels.. just like the look better. Wheels are made by Rays (volk, etc)... never thought I'd have a car sitting on Rays... with another set (the oem wheels) sitting on my shelf
I myself have a Nismo, so I get a wee bit more power over a regular 370z (350hp vs 332hp). Overall, the car is wonderful to drive. It's one of the remaining cars still out there that give you some serious driver feedback. Still uses hydraulic steering, so you feel everything through the wheel (in a good way). It's loud AF when you hit redline at 7500rpm (not too shabby for a 3.7L V6, revving that high). The shifter feels crisp. The synchro rev match system works nicely (though I turn it off often, as I like to rev match the car myself). The clutch feels sporty. The recaros are comfy. The akebono big brakes front and back stand up very well to avoiding brake fade at the track.
The suspension is stiff but the wheels are massive... 9.5" upfront, 10.5" in the back... they actually soak up the bumps very nicely, so although stiff, it isnt uncomfortable by any stretch. I like the meaty tire look, so I upped the tires to 285 up front (stock is 245), and 325 in the back (stock is 285). Soaks up bumps even nicer now and still a nice sporty feeling suspension.
While sporty cars easily are pushing well into the 400hp range, the 370z has more than enough power to get you in trouble. A lot of trouble, hahaha. It's a blast to hoon at the track and the car's strongest suit is it's looks. The Nismo looks aggressive AF and people just stare at this thing. I come out of the grocery store and see people taking pictures of it/beside it
I've never owned a car that has garnered so much attention. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing- depends on the person, I suppose.oh, and there's a ton of alcantara (sp?) on the inside. It's so wonderful to touch, especially on the steering wheel.
Not surprisingly, the infotainment is dated. Maps look nice on the navi screen, but the Bluetooth can be a pain, often times. It's all good once connected, but there are times it takes 5 minutes to connect if switching between devices (say from one phone, to another phone). If it pairs to the same device, it's generally pretty good.
Also, the biggest piss off- there are certain features in the car you can't operate when the car is moving. Fucking annoying. Yeah, they call it a safety thing, but some stuff you can change, while others you can't.... and they'll be in the same fucking menu!!! Recently I had a passenger who wanted to connect their phone to the stereo... nope. Need to stop to do so. Not exactly easy when on the highway
The aftermarket support is massive for this car. But be weary- Most nothing is cheap.
Mine is a 2016, but I have it riding on 2013-2014 370z Nismo wheels.. just like the look better. Wheels are made by Rays (volk, etc)... never thought I'd have a car sitting on Rays... with another set (the oem wheels) sitting on my shelf
06-19-2018, 03:16 PM
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and yes, it is a major weak point of the car... though I wonder how much is related to people just driving their cars hard/poorly. I've heard the CSC is half plastic and eventually fails... I have an aftermarket solution for mine for when it does fail and should be good for the life of the car. Nissan refused to fix this part, knowing it's a major weak point. I think they left it on purpose- it'll have the Zs coming back for work time and again!
I'm not one to ever be harsh with my clutch, though. I guess time will tell how long it lasts. I also don't know how high the rate of failure is. Forums always blow shit out of proportion- look at the 3G auto transmission... we all tell people to avoid them like the plague, but I'd be surprised if the failure rate is as high as it is made out to be on here. But good luck getting any actual statistics. And it's not like people will post "my transmission was just fine today!" All you hear about is the failed ones
06-19-2018, 04:34 PM
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yes, and it's absolute bullshit. In my TL, you can get at the clutch slave cylinder in like 15 minutes. In the 370z, you have to drop the fucking transmission out
and yes, it is a major weak point of the car... though I wonder how much is related to people just driving their cars hard/poorly. I've heard the CSC is half plastic and eventually fails... I have an aftermarket solution for mine for when it does fail and should be good for the life of the car. Nissan refused to fix this part, knowing it's a major weak point. I think they left it on purpose- it'll have the Zs coming back for work time and again!
I'm not one to ever be harsh with my clutch, though. I guess time will tell how long it lasts. I also don't know how high the rate of failure is. Forums always blow shit out of proportion- look at the 3G auto transmission... we all tell people to avoid them like the plague, but I'd be surprised if the failure rate is as high as it is made out to be on here. But good luck getting any actual statistics. And it's not like people will post "my transmission was just fine today!" All you hear about is the failed ones
06-21-2018, 08:21 AM
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I am an old school Datsun Nissan guy. Had a couple 510's a 280 Z...then went to Honda./ Acura
Going to keep my Audi, but am considering a 370Z. Heard they are pretty much bulletproof.
Going to keep my Audi, but am considering a 370Z. Heard they are pretty much bulletproof.
06-21-2018, 09:11 AM
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Taco the car looks really good. Always have liked the Nismo 370z. Great looking cars.
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06-21-2018, 09:26 AM
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One thing about the VQ engine... and I guess RWD platform of the said... it's not nearly as smooth and refined as Honda's J-series. But being a sporty car, I like that. You can feel a tiny vibration in the shifter and the engine isn't as smooth as the J-series, but I think Nissan focused on performance more than anything else in that car. Vibrations? pffffff.
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06-21-2018, 11:24 AM
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Thanks for the info...I appreciate it!
07-02-2018, 11:54 PM
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Its too bad because the new Altima (2019) is looking pretty good so far. But that damn CVT is absolutely a deal-breaker for me and I refuse to ever get one. I'm so thankful that Honda put their new in-house 10-speed auto in the new Accord 2.0T as that is the car I am leaning towards right now (not to mention also offering the best tranny option 6MT in the upgrade engine; just need an auto for my daily use).
07-03-2018, 04:45 AM
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My old 14 Accord Sport CVT was leaps and bounds better.
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