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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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Alright, all of you know my name for owners of English cars - "pedestrians" or " perpetual loaner drivers."

So I stopped by the local Jaguar dealer to look at the new XF. There were two on the floor- both black, one w/parchment interior and one supercharged with the black/CF interior.

The supercharged had the nicer looking (as well as bigger, deeper) wheels, but I liked the parchment interior...

No, I haven't driven either yet, but am looking at potential replacements for my TL, which has less than 40K on it. I write off a good amount on the TL lease, but like it enough to buy it out absent a much more appealing car within reason, i.e. my dear wife will dismember me if I come home with an Aston Martin DBS, which is unaffordable anyway.

So, the XF is a Jaguar in its first year of production. My brain says but my heart says .

Convince me a Jag XF is a bad idea...
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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Mid life crisis?
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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Looks fine as hell, I love the way that thing looks. It would fit a man of your stature quite well actually. Do it!
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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Convince you that you don't "need" a Jaguar? I'd rather convince you why you DO.

Great car. Go for it.


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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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buy me one too plz
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
Mid life crisis?
Not yet. The XF = 4-door sedan for mid $50s.
Mid-life crisis = DBS, Ferrari or Cadillac XLR.
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It would fit a man of your stature quite well actually. Do it!
Short, out-of-shape & balding??
And you're not helping!
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Great car. Go for it.
You're not helping either, dammit!!
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buy me one too plz
Check with my wife....

Hmm... I wonder what lease rates are on an XF... :goestocheckleasesites:
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Will Y.
my dear wife will dismember me if I come home with an Aston Martin DBS, which is unaffordable anyway.

XF doesn't speak to me, but the AM Vantage N400 - now that's something your wifey can approve of, just tell her you saved $160 grand!

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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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It's fugly. I've never liked the look of Jaguar, I don't care what they put in it.




DON'T DO IT!


It's really funny...cuz...we'd just nominated you to become a new Mod in Car Talk... But buy it, and...well....

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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 09:40 PM
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sorry but id get one
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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I think the exterior is beautiful!

If you can get a good deal on it then rock on!!
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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Need is an interesting choice of words.

I really like the new Jags. I'd gladly drive a XKR if I could afford one. I think the XF is a great looking car with presence that far exceeds its price range.
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 10:37 PM
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 11:06 PM
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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Hot car.... I love it.

That said... stay away b/c the odds are you'll be in a loaner more then your own car. My wife's boss has an XKR and that thing is pure sex... but he always has something wrong with it.

Jag is kind of like Range Rover... sexy to look at... not so much fun to own. But hey, it's your money and time... get what you want
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
Hot car.... I love it.

That said... stay away b/c the odds are you'll be in a loaner more then your own car. My wife's boss has an XKR and that thing is pure sex... but he always has something wrong with it.

Jag is kind of like Range Rover... sexy to look at... not so much fun to own. But hey, it's your money and time... get what you want
I'll add a reason here.

Go look at what 2-3 year old Jags are fetching in the used market, keeping in mind what asking price was when they were new.

Depreciation on those is a bitch.
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
Hot car.... I love it.

That said... stay away b/c the odds are you'll be in a loaner more then your own car. My wife's boss has an XKR and that thing is pure sex... but he always has something wrong with it.

Jag is kind of like Range Rover... sexy to look at... not so much fun to own. But hey, it's your money and time... get what you want
Im sure people have said this same type of thing to you when buying an Audi.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
That said... stay away b/c the odds are you'll be in a loaner more then your own car. My wife's boss has an XKR and that thing is pure sex... but he always has something wrong with it.
That's one of my main concerns-- I forgot to ask the dealer today if the loaners were other Jags, Land Rovers (dealer sells those too) or Enterprise rent-a-cars.
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I'll add a reason here.

Go look at what 2-3 year old Jags are fetching in the used market, keeping in mind what asking price was when they were new.

Depreciation on those is a bitch.
Yes, thanks, that's much more helpful than all the posters telling me to buy the XF!
I forgot all about the depreciation aspect, esp. since the X-type and S-type are no longer with us.

I'm only going to test drive one next weekend to satiate my curiousity, and NOT because I'm getting one, OK??!
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 12:58 AM
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^ I was assuming you were going to lease the XF as well.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 03:39 AM
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They'll probably work out a bunch of kinks after the 1st model year, and make a nice addition or two. Hope that helps
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 04:10 AM
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Jags are awesome I see so many in England. I would do it, the XF is a sexy beast. I get a hard on everytime I see one.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 05:18 AM
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I like that aston martin........now THAT's nice
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 07:03 AM
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The XF is a decent looking car, but I'd need some tough convincing to purchase one.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 07:04 AM
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Man, i dunno that XF is pure sex..

i mean seriously, someone parked their XF in a showroom and all of a sudden this happens



Why WOULDN'T you get one? Plus, I bet they've all got sexy english accents too
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Gilgamesh
I'll add a reason here.

Go look at what 2-3 year old Jags are fetching in the used market, keeping in mind what asking price was when they were new.

Depreciation on those is a bitch.
X2
Buying one of these will be an expensive idea if you only plan to keep it 2-3 years.

If you do pull the trigger on this one, I highly recommend sticking with the leasing route. Let Jaguar financial worry about what it is worth in 3 years instead of you worrying.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 08:24 AM
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Meh....There are nicer cars out there. But that's just me.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RaviNJCLs
Meh....There are nicer cars out there. But that's just me.
The XF Supercharged is $64,475. Only option is adaptive cruise control for $2200.

So, in the $64-67k range, name one for us
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by juniorbean
Hot car.... I love it.

That said... stay away b/c the odds are you'll be in a loaner more then your own car. My wife's boss has an XKR and that thing is pure sex... but he always has something wrong with it.

Jag is kind of like Range Rover... sexy to look at... not so much fun to own. But hey, it's your money and time... get what you want
I wouldn't take this as the norm. My father has had three XK's since they have come out and has had a problem with only one of them. On top of the XK's, he has had an XJ and now an XJ Super V8-again, with only one problem (the wood trim around the sunroof controls was coming loose). Jaguar is doing pretty well these days.

Regarding loaner cars-it really depends on the dealer. Our dealer gives out XJ's as loaners.

Oh, and buy one you will love it-I love mine


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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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WOW! One of the best looking sedans on the road, IMO.

If you lease, would you continue to partially expense it? That could be good excuse to bring to the table when in talks w the wife.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
The XF Supercharged is $64,475. Only option is adaptive cruise control for $2200.

So, in the $64-67k range, name one for us
I'm not going to argue with you that the price tag is really good for what you get. I'm just not a fan of them. I absolutely hate the way the front of the car looks. To me it makes it look like a Ford. And I'm not sold on their reliability.

On the performance side, it is a lot cheaper than the M5 or MB. And it out powers Infiniti or Lexus.

If I had to dump that much cash into a car I would go for a 5 Series or RS4.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Street Spirit
It's really funny...cuz...we'd just nominated you to become a new Mod in Car Talk... But buy it, and...well....
I thought members had to get rid of any current gen Acuras before becoming mods on AZ...
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^ I was assuming you were going to lease the XF as well.
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They'll probably work out a bunch of kinks after the 1st model year, and make a nice addition or two.
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Buying one of these will be an expensive idea if you only plan to keep it 2-3 years.
If you do pull the trigger on this one, I highly recommend sticking with the leasing route.
Depends on the numbers- I ran some last night, and a lease does make sense in the context of 1st year model and historical Jag depreciation. Prior to the TL, I've only bought cars outright.
I can write off a part of a lease cost since I use my car for non-commuting business purposes.
When I've owned cars, I've kept them 5+ years (as I'm the mirror of )
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Oh, and buy one you will love it-I love mine
The supercharged has nice looking wheels, and the cooled seats.
I was thinking about this last night and this morning- the Lux and Premium XF have the same performance as my TL, due to the weight of the car. That means that I would need to get the supercharged XF for an improvement in performance...
By the way, you're not helping either, although I wouldn't have to explain your car photos to the wife like I would with agranado's pick.
At least I don't have to look at a photo of the Champagne interior. :sigh:

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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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A white one passed me this morning...I must say it's pretty nice in that color...
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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Im sure people have said this same type of thing to you when buying an Audi.
hehe. Actually, not one person did. We did our research and knew that the Audi's completely turned their reliability issues around and we ended up never having problems.

As for the Jag, they are known for their issues, and little has changed. The example I posted above is just one... I know/knew several people with Jags and they all had tons of issues with them.

Plus, every time I see the car from the front (headlights and grille) I think it's a Chrysler until I can see more of it.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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I thought members had to get rid of any current gen Acuras before becoming mods on AZ...
Didn't work for me either. I feel ripped. I thought you guys liked me.

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Originally Posted by juniorbean
hehe. Actually, not one person did. We did our research and knew that the Audi's completely turned their reliability issues around and we ended up never having problems.

As for the Jag, they are known for their issues, and little has changed. The example I posted above is just one... I know/knew several people with Jags and they all had tons of issues with them.

Plus, every time I see the car from the front (headlights and grille) I think it's a Chrysler until I can see more of it.
Those are in line with my issues with the car.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by RaviNJCLs
Those are in line with my issues with the car.
The XF looks nothing like the 300!
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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it's a nice car and pretty looking car. However I believe the Benz C63=sex compared to this. but i've almost always liked Benz styling
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by stright-(paint)balling
it's a nice car and pretty looking car. However I believe the Benz C63=sex compared to this. but i've almost always liked Benz styling
Totally different cars with different purposes.

The XF is a much nicer car. Just a lot slower
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by charliemike
The XF Supercharged is $64,475. Only option is adaptive cruise control for $2200.

So, in the $64-67k range, name one for us

Slightly used M5
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