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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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Consumer Perception - ACURA "worst"

Look through the article untill you get to the first chart....."and in LAST place...."



http://editorial.autos.msn.com/artic...umentid=435679
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 08:16 AM
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mitsubishi is above acura.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 08:26 AM
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 08:34 AM
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cmon, they only polled 2,037 people, garbage article
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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Does anyone really care that much about people's perceptions? One of the reasons Acura is probably ranked low is there are a lot of people who don't even know what it is. It has very little name recognition, therefore people don't rate it highly. When I got my TL I told my GF's parents it was an Acura, they were like "oh is that a Toyota?" I was like"uhh, no, its a brand name not a model name"
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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you have to admit..acura is way behind in advancement of their car line. No V8...no RWD.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 08:59 AM
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Sorry.

ehhh.....Ramblings gets more play.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by korrupted
cmon, they only polled 2,037 people, garbage article
Seems legit to me...

I had a perception of Acura quality BEFORE I bought my Acura, and now, not so much... The autotragic issue really hurt Acura's image

Acura = Ford as far as quality goes from my experience (has a 94 Tbird before my CLS).
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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I don't understand how people are ranking crappy domestics like Buick above Acura. They must've polled some poor trashy neighborhood where people don't even know what an acura is.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mcflyguy24
I don't understand how people are ranking crappy domestics like Buick above Acura. They must've polled some poor trashy neighborhood where people don't even know what an acura is.
hey this guy doesn't know what an acura is either

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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by pttl
ehhh.....Ramblings gets more play.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Seems legit to me...

I had a perception of Acura quality BEFORE I bought my Acura, and now, not so much... The autotragic issue really hurt Acura's image

Acura = Ford as far as quality goes from my experience (has a 94 Tbird before my CLS).
But 2,000 out of millions of car owners........
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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It's their own damned fault.

My CL was the best car I've ever owned, period.

But I got tired of waiting.....
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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..and this is surprising?
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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Sigh.

Where's the dead horse smilie? Tell us something we don't already know about Acura's perception.

Acura needs a lead executive who's a visionary....a Steve Jobs....someone who can take the brand back to where it was almost 20 years ago. The executive group they've got now is not connected to the fan base (us) and makes few attempts at making that connection. No connection, no enthusiasm. No enthusiasm, no evangelism. No evangelism, no chance to bring in new converts to the brand.....and this leads to lower sales. Admittedly, they're taking baby steps right now, but the CR survey is just a reminder to them of how far they have yet to go.

Sounds like Apple ten years ago.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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I find it particularly perplexing, given how many things Honda gets right, and how many other niches they dominate.

It boggles the mind.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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isn't it the higher number the better/worst the score? so if that were the case buick would be the worst maker with Acura as the "top" worst maker? correct me if I'm wrong....but yea the autotragic is what's killing us.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by neuronbob
Sigh.

Where's the dead horse smilie? Tell us something we don't already know about Acura's perception.

Acura needs a lead executive who's a visionary....a Steve Jobs....someone who can take the brand back to where it was almost 20 years ago. The executive group they've got now is not connected to the fan base (us) and makes few attempts at making that connection. No connection, no enthusiasm. No enthusiasm, no evangelism. No evangelism, no chance to bring in new converts to the brand.....and this leads to lower sales. Admittedly, they're taking baby steps right now, but the CR survey is just a reminder to them of how far they have yet to go.

Sounds like Apple ten years ago.
duh i was telling people here on AZ that we need to fire Dick Collivier and John Mandel!!
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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So, does this mean the average person does not know Acura is a Luxo Honda? If Honda is so good, how can their "upscale" brand be so bad?

Long before I owned an Acura (97 3.0CL) I knew Honda made good cars and that Acura was their "better" car.

I'll put this in the take what you can use and leave the rest file (ignore it)
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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I just saw this article and was about to start up a new therad about it. this rating is disappointing. The people polled should drive some of the acura models and they would see that acuras offer many advanced features for a relatively low price.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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I wonder where Infiniti is ranked....a lot of the time I tell people I do sales at Infiniti and they give me a blank stare. One time in class, some girl asked me why I come to class dressed up, and I told her i'm a salesman at Infiniti....she kind of just looked at me...and I said, you know, the cars? She had no idea who/what Infiniti was until I showed her a booklet the next day

IMO, Lexus is the most known of the three japanese automakers, which sucks, because i'd much rather drive any Infiniti or Acura over anything Lexus has to offer
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Not a big deal, except at resale time, especially if one buys non-Acura.
I couldn't care less what other people, especially auto journalists, think about my car as long as I am happy with it.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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guy in the video is a douche bag
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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my theory on this is its all marketing's problem.

off the top of my head, i can think of various lexus, various toyotas, honda accord, honda fit, honda element, gmc trucks, chevy malibu, chevy suv's, ford edge, various vw "deutsche" commericals, infiniti's passion campaign, nissan's shift campaign, various hummer ads, cadillac ads... ironically, those are at the top of the consumer perception list or at least in the minds of the general public... for the life of me, i can't think of ANY acura commercials. i don't ever remember seeing a tsx commercial on tv. not even regional tv. i don't ever recall seeing a tl commercial either. then again, maybe i'm not watching the right kind of tv?

my mom is a prime example. she thought i was nuts buying an used acura when i could've bought what she thought was a brand new sporty camry for the same price. i recall in the 2nd Gen tsx forum having this argument - something as simple as push-button starter adds to the PERCEPTION of luxury. we all know push-button starter does NOT define luxury. but to the lay person, it does. why? marketing does a good job of selling the whole "race engineered" design philosophies such as push-button starter and people buy into that IDEA.

once my mom rode in my tsx, however, her perception changed. she likes the car - the interior, the appointments, the ergo, the heated front seats, etc. the ride is a bit rough for her tastes but she understands because its a sports sedan.

acura needs to spend some serious bucks marketing their cars. they can learn from infiniti's marketing department ("passion" campaign) when trying to create perception, both in their print and tv ads.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mokos23
hey this guy doesn't know what an acura is either

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Pretty good content + why was the TV screen crooked??

Wish somebody would show this video to Acura
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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But 2,000 out of millions of car owners........
What do you really expect him to pole millions of car owners

People need to realize that Acura is becoming a joke compared to the competition.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Donte99TL
People need to realize that Acura is becoming a joke compared to the competition.
And you don't even need a poll or survey to tell you that.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Donte99TL
What do you really expect him to pole millions of car owners

People need to realize that Acura is becoming a joke compared to the competition.
But how many Acura owners did they poll? Or is just in general what the pollees think of each brand?
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 1killercls
you have to admit..acura is way behind in advancement of their car line. No V8...no RWD.
That can't be true. I mean, I saw the new TSX commercial for the first time last night and at the end of it, it said "Acura. Advance."

If it was on tv, then it must be true, right?
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Originally Posted by taz98spin
Pretty good content + why was the TV screen crooked??

Wish somebody would show this video to Acura
yeah that's a good idea
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by taz98spin
Wish somebody would show this video to Acura


at Acura.

Originally Posted by mokos23
duh i was telling people here on AZ that we need to fire Dick Collivier and John Mandel!!
I've got my pitchfork out for those guys. How can they design a car like the RL and then NOT MARKET IT? Then fsck up the redesign? No matter what people say about the 2G RL, it's a fabulous car that would have sold more with better marketing. Now they've got an ass-ugly MMC with great features.

OK, I'm done.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by korrupted
cmon, they only polled 2,037 people, garbage article
haha so things that don't say what you want them to say are "garbage"?

2037 is a legitimate random sample size. CR knows how to do their stats.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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Acura = Ford as far as quality goes from my experience (has a 94 Tbird before my CLS).
....i'm not sure I go as far to say that......
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by korrupted
But 2,000 out of millions of car owners........
Representative. Sample.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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my 01 CLS was the worst car i have ever owned in terms of quality.
but it was the most bang for my buck, which i have realized a few years later that it is not a good thing sometimes if you are in the "Luxury" segment.

When you bought an Acura for the "Value", then dont complain how Acura cant compete with lexus and bmw.


after my CL-S i am never buying a japanese car that is not made in japan.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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looks like the perception is correct. Just take a look at the posts here - most are bashing Acura. This my second TL, my first was an 01. i probably won't buy another Acura.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
my 01 CLS was the worst car i have ever owned in terms of quality.
but it was the most bang for my buck, which i have realized a few years later that it is not a good thing sometimes if you are in the "Luxury" segment.

When you bought an Acura for the "Value", then dont complain how Acura cant compete with lexus and bmw.


after my CL-S i am never buying a japanese car that is not made in japan.
well the TL, MDX, or RDX will never be for you then. Only the TSX and RL are made in japan.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 10:37 PM
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haha so things that don't say what you want them to say are "garbage"?

2037 is a legitimate random sample size. CR knows how to do their stats.
agreed.

tho i hated my stat. class.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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Um Audi second to last I call BS, and toyota none of the new toyotas actually look good. I would much rather have an accord than a camry. Ford third wtf, unless they include Lincoln with Ford. Ford has nothing going for them. I'm going to say the people who were surveyed are idiots.
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