jjeez

What is the greatest competition for the newer TLs?
IS350?
3 Series?
G37?
How do they stack up against the TL?

Pseudomaniac

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Don't take the bait...

Mr Marco

Not another one of these...


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Pete2010

I'm pretty sure there are already about 10000000 threads about this very topic. They are usually the ones that are about 10 pages long.

jasonwdp10

Please make use of this forums search function as topics similar to this have been discussed repeatedly over the years.

ib_jimmy

I dont understand why we're comparing cars that are smaller. why not the GS350 or the M35 or 535

Litt

Thats another very common thread. The debate: Do you compare on size or on price.

jjsC5

I suspect that whether they want to admit it or not, most people wind up in a pretty narrow price band. Rather than all the answers above, I'll state my thoughts....

• G37-Nice sports sedan but it's "sell by" date has expired
• IS350 - Tight living quarters and also long in the tooth.
• Chrysler 300 - Don't knock it till you try it - the new one is pretty impressive but a little on the large side
• GS350 - I have one (the TL is my wife's car.....really, it is!) GS is nice, but even I admit it's due for a change. See the Lexus forum if you want to know more about it - there is pretty good information out now and it will be introduced next month. There are actual pics of the interior on the forum
• Hyundai Genesis - If they created a separate brand it would own the market. If you don't mind telling people you own a Hyundai this is the car most of us should own.
• ES350 - This car would be fine for your mother. Way too soft and feminine
• BMW (any BMW). I like them, but the ones worth having cost quite a bit more than an Acura. I'm not buying a BMW to get the "...28" engine.
• Mercedes - yes, they actually do make a car in this price range (C class). Probably a nice car, but I don't need people thinking I'm not really rich but I want them to think I am because I have a Mercedes (all due respect to Janis Joplin)
  

saturno_v

The real TL competition is the Chevrolet Aveo, the Hyundai Accent, Corolla or Civic...however they are better in so many areas....

jjeez

thanks for giving an actual answer.
I test drove the g37 and found it to be not as responsive as the TL. What do you mean by "sell by date" do you mean its just outdated in design?
The BMWs i looked at were just too over priced for what you got in them. The TL seem to give the most of the money.

NwTSXmt

The New GS should Beast if its close to the concept's design..

jjsC5

Yes. I like Infiniti's - I've owned three of them. The G drives like a sports sedan, but is not terribly refined, and could use some updated electronics to compete with the likes of the TL.

eazy

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Uhh.. what?

BT9

The competition is whatever you want it to be. Don't let someone else put their own limits (price, size, brand bias, etc) on it for you. Also, it's a terrible idea to ask cross-shopping questions on a brand-specific forum. Find a few cars you like and join the most active forums for those.

You can start with websites like:
http://www.edmunds.com/new-cars/
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/index.jsp
http://amexnetwork.zag.com/new-car.html

to filter through various makes and models based on your own limits or preferences. If the cars you're interested in span the range $35k to $75k and you can afford that, stick with it. Or if you're interested in both sedans and SUVs, stick with it. Don't let these silly categories people have created limit you. There are a lot of really interesting vehicles out there, in many categories.

saturno_v

I was being sarcastic....I own a TL SH-AWD and I absolutely LOVE IT!!!

Being serious and going back to the OP..

The TL is a some sort of cross-segment car....as the Acura official press relase, it competes with both the high end of the Infiniti G, BMW 3 Series, MB C Class and Audi A4/S4 offering (on price and some features) and the the entry-mid level of the Infiniti M, BMW 5 Series, MB E Class, Lexus GS and Audi A6 offering (size, capabilities especially with the TL SH-AWD and features) The Hyundai Genesis is a competitor too, as the Cadillac CTS,

You can view the Nissan Maxima, the top trim of the Mazda 6, the Lexus ES and the incoming Hyundai Azera as competitors too of the TL FWD.

Even if many that are influenced by marketing gimmicks may disagree, you can see the fully loaded TL SH-AWD Tech as a competitor of the Audi A7 as well, same size, performance and technical content....well you can outtech the TL with an A7 but you need to shell out north of 70K....

SeismicGuy

How about the Cadillac CTS. Where does this fit into the scheme of things?


Doug

indopinoy

jjsC5 has it down correctly.

I looked at the exact same crowd, came to the exact same reasoning. Almost bought the IS250 too, but needed more space. Then it was down to the TL and an E350.

And competition is all relative. Price, luxury features, status, performance. My TL was bought for the wifey. If it were for me personally, it may have turned out differently.

jjeez

that is a really good question....i would think the CTS-v would be in a much higher price bracket but i am not sure.

I think a lot of people here misunderstood my thread...

pttl

uh boy.

Move to 4G section.

Moog-Type-S

thread of the day

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TSX V6 according to SSFTSX

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pttl

Now that's more like it. Very befitting this thread.

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oonowindoo

Dont take the bait!!!

oonowindoo

you are wrong. TL's greatest competition is TSX. It has been Proven.