Civic Si watch out! Scion tC supercharger released!
10-19-2005, 12:18 AM
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Civic Si watch out! Scion tC supercharger released!
Toyota Racing Development (TRD) and Scion announced today that a TRD supercharger for the Scion tC sports coupe will be available through dealerships beginning today. The TRD supercharger will help the stock tC's 160-horsepower engine put out up to 200 horsepower and increase maximum torque up to 13 percent.
This all-new TRD supercharger is compatible with both 2005 and 2006 model year Scion tC sports coupes with manual transmissions.
This centrifugal supercharger, which produces seven pounds of boost, was chosen for its compact configuration, ease of installation on the tC and smooth power delivery characteristics.
The supercharger, when installed by an authorized Scion or Toyota dealer, falls under the same powertrain warranty of five years or 60,000 miles, or the balance of the new car warranty, whichever is greater. When not installed by a dealer, the supercharger is covered by a 12-month, 12,000-mile parts-only warranty.
The manufacturer's suggested retail price of the TRD supercharger is $3,200, not including installation.
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This all-new TRD supercharger is compatible with both 2005 and 2006 model year Scion tC sports coupes with manual transmissions.
This centrifugal supercharger, which produces seven pounds of boost, was chosen for its compact configuration, ease of installation on the tC and smooth power delivery characteristics.
The supercharger, when installed by an authorized Scion or Toyota dealer, falls under the same powertrain warranty of five years or 60,000 miles, or the balance of the new car warranty, whichever is greater. When not installed by a dealer, the supercharger is covered by a 12-month, 12,000-mile parts-only warranty.
The manufacturer's suggested retail price of the TRD supercharger is $3,200, not including installation.
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10-19-2005, 12:20 AM
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too much for too little.
tC still = turtle car.
I love the ones custom turbo'd ones that are runnin' around w/ like, 450whp/400tq
tC still = turtle car.
I love the ones custom turbo'd ones that are runnin' around w/ like, 450whp/400tq
10-19-2005, 08:52 AM
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$3200 w/o installation? Man that's a lot of cash for 40hp and 13% torque (is that like 20 ft/lbs ?).
10-19-2005, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by vtecracer
It takes a supercharger for Toyota to match the Si's numbers? Whatever. The Si will still without a doubt be the ultimate performer and car againt the TC.
When all is said-and-done (speed, handling, braking); the Si will be the better performance car.
10-19-2005, 10:04 AM
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For all we know, Scion and Toyota can be underating the power. It has been known. They prolly want to compete with the civic in terms of cost, insurance, but beat it in performance. Scion has had SC'ed TC's since the 04 NY Auto Show. If the car is indeed making only 200 horses, then toyota and scion need to wake up.
10-19-2005, 10:09 AM
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... severely underrated numbers like stated above or severely misguided by toyota to even think that it should cost over 3k to match honda's new coupe.
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10-19-2005, 02:01 PM
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I don't really see the issue, its a 16k car, 4k for a supercharger. 20k seems like a fair enough price for a 200hp coupe. About the same price for a supercharged cobalt and I'm sure with minor bolt ons the car will see nice power gains. Even without - ~180lbft/~200hp is going to have decent performance.
10-19-2005, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
I don't really see the issue, its a 16k car, 4k for a supercharger. 20k seems like a fair enough price for a 200hp coupe. About the same price for a supercharged cobalt and I'm sure with minor bolt ons the car will see nice power gains. Even without - ~180lbft/~200hp is going to have decent performance.
10-19-2005, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Doom878
Isn't a tC + s/c the same price as a stock Si?
10-19-2005, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jz-97-c7
not quite...according to honda $20g's gets you loaded ex...so the SI will have to come in a few thousand more than a the s/c tc
10-19-2005, 03:00 PM
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The tC is a bargain. You can't get everything in it, and it certainly doesn't give you everything, but when all is said and done, it's a lot of car for a relatively low price. I'd get it with the S/C over an Si.
10-19-2005, 06:50 PM
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there has been superchargers for the TC. i think toyota has been having problems with them and redesighned them so they wouldn't break or put to much stress on the motor.
10-19-2005, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaPower
used CL-S that might have tranny issues < tC or Si for $20k
at least not so much that I'd consider either of the previously mentioned cars instead of the cl.
10-19-2005, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaPower
used CL-S that might have tranny issues < tC or Si for $20k
10-19-2005, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TL CHROMETIDE
I'm not sure but wouldn't a CL-S be automatic for it to easily have tranny issues? Both the tC+supercharger and Si are only offered in manual transmissions. So it's fair to compare cars as manual transmissions.
10-19-2005, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaPower
it's not fair to compare a CL-S to the other cars to begin with
sure it is, if we are comparing cars in a certain price range, which is the title of the thread. Comparing new vs. used might not be fair..but if you handed me 20k I'd buy a used cls long before I ever considered an SI or a Scion.
10-19-2005, 08:08 PM
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2006 Civic Si > Scion tC with any type of blower.
10-19-2005, 09:01 PM
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if you think about it.. even if you get a scion with the Supercharger, then its already forced induced and only puts out 200. then add the bolt-ons, just keep spending money but its not gonna give you better power outputs than a civic will..
the SI comes naturally aspirated at 200horses. pop bolt-ons in and it'll still keep up with the S/C'ed tC with bolt ons. then give the SI a turbocharger, which wouldnt be hard to do since they already have turbo's for the RSX. almost similar engines, both being K-series. so all you have to do is take one of the 5 turboes available for the RSX and customize it to fit the SI, or just wait til one of those aftermarket companies redesign the turbo to fit the SI.
the SI is awesome considering that it has everything the RSX does but more performance and handling. only thing you lose is the refined interior, but who needs luxury upgrades in a sports coupe that youre gonna be tossing around corners and bringing to drags??
the SI comes naturally aspirated at 200horses. pop bolt-ons in and it'll still keep up with the S/C'ed tC with bolt ons. then give the SI a turbocharger, which wouldnt be hard to do since they already have turbo's for the RSX. almost similar engines, both being K-series. so all you have to do is take one of the 5 turboes available for the RSX and customize it to fit the SI, or just wait til one of those aftermarket companies redesign the turbo to fit the SI.
the SI is awesome considering that it has everything the RSX does but more performance and handling. only thing you lose is the refined interior, but who needs luxury upgrades in a sports coupe that youre gonna be tossing around corners and bringing to drags??
10-19-2005, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronnn
if you think about it.. even if you get a scion with the Supercharger, then its already forced induced and only puts out 200. then add the bolt-ons, just keep spending money but its not gonna give you better power outputs than a civic will..
the SI comes naturally aspirated at 200horses. pop bolt-ons in and it'll still keep up with the S/C'ed tC with bolt ons. then give the SI a turbocharger, which wouldnt be hard to do since they already have turbo's for the RSX. almost similar engines, both being K-series. so all you have to do is take one of the 5 turboes available for the RSX and customize it to fit the SI, or just wait til one of those aftermarket companies redesign the turbo to fit the SI.
the SI is awesome considering that it has everything the RSX does but more performance and handling. only thing you lose is the refined interior, but who needs luxury upgrades in a sports coupe that youre gonna be tossing around corners and bringing to drags??
the SI comes naturally aspirated at 200horses. pop bolt-ons in and it'll still keep up with the S/C'ed tC with bolt ons. then give the SI a turbocharger, which wouldnt be hard to do since they already have turbo's for the RSX. almost similar engines, both being K-series. so all you have to do is take one of the 5 turboes available for the RSX and customize it to fit the SI, or just wait til one of those aftermarket companies redesign the turbo to fit the SI.
the SI is awesome considering that it has everything the RSX does but more performance and handling. only thing you lose is the refined interior, but who needs luxury upgrades in a sports coupe that youre gonna be tossing around corners and bringing to drags??
10-23-2005, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedyV6
Turbocharged tC's put out ~ 255hp with i/h/e. That's comparable to a Civic. Plus the 2.4l in the tC has more torque.
10-23-2005, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by vtecracer
Must be some amazing intake and headers on the TC
And 255 from a turbo'd 4 banger is nothing. Unless it is stock internals on very mild boost.
10-23-2005, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedyV6
Turbocharged tC's put out ~ 255hp with i/h/e. That's comparable to a Civic. Plus the 2.4l in the tC has more torque.
since ive been seeing turbo'ed civics do so much better than that.
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