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Old 12-23-2005, 11:51 AM
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Civic or Mazda3

I need to buy a "new" ride.

I need something reliable, very cheap on gas (at least 30 city mpg), with 4 doors. Used is fine as long as it is under warranty. I also want something that is EASY to work on with unlimited aftermarket support. $16K is my absolute total complete LIMIT!


I found a fully loaded (leather, HIDs, Navi, etc.) Mazda3 for $16K, but I am thinking I might want to go along the civic lines instead.

Thanks for the input!
Old 12-23-2005, 11:51 AM
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:53 AM
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:54 AM
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Old 12-23-2005, 12:00 PM
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I'd have to test drive em first, cause how the cars ride/accelerate would be the deal maker. I like the traditional interior layout of the mazda better than what honda tried to do inside. Exterior wise I could be happy with either. I also like how hids are available on the Mazda.
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Fully loaded 3 though. I really like the looks of that car and drives really well.

Both good cars, I would go with the best deal
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Is it going to be an auto or manual? If manual,.......for sure the civic.
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That is a nice deal on the 3, but I hate how the 3 looks tiny from the outside. I love the look of the new Civics so I'd rather go with that.
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@ <$16K I would not be getting a new civic. By $16K I mean otd price.

It would have to be an older (ie 03 and above) Civic EX.
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3 may look tiny on the outside, but its huge on the inside.

if its not going to be the new SI, i'd say go w/the 3. that thing is gorgeous.

oh damn. if its one of the old gen civics, you'd better damn well get the 3. it blows the old civ's out of the water.
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Originally Posted by bl^5
@ <$16K I would not be getting a new civic. By $16K I mean otd price.

It would have to be an older (ie 03 and above) Civic EX.

In that case, get the Mazda. The old Civic's can't compare IMO.
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The new Civic sedan is nice but it doesn't have anything over the Mazda3 IMO. Plus the Mazda3 is built in Japan and has a longer warranty.

EDIT: I thought you were comparing the 3 to the new Civic. If you're looking at the older Civic's then it's a no brainier definitely get the 3.

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Old 12-23-2005, 01:19 PM
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Mazda3 if we were talking a couple months compared to the old civic.

New civic coupe is tits. I love how it drove.
Old 12-23-2005, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
In that case, get the Mazda. The old Civic's can't compare IMO.

Mazda 3 is really nice.
Old 12-23-2005, 11:58 PM
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Mazda3 if we were talking a couple months compared to the old civic.

New civic coupe is tits. I love how it drove.
test drove a 06 coupe EX - i was really surprised by the quality and refinement as well as the smooth revving k-series engine.

edit: mazda 3 is miles ahead of the last gen civic. my vote = 3
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Originally Posted by vishnus11
test drove a 06 coupe EX - i was really surprised by the quality and refinement as well as the smooth revving k-series engine.

edit: mazda 3 is miles ahead of the last gen civic. my vote = 3
I agree, except on the K-series engine thing. It's an R-series engine!

I drove an LX coupe from 06 and it was really nice. The old civics are kinda not great, but they're WAY better on gas than the 3. Like 30% in real life driving. I know cause my brother has a 1.7EL, which has the same 127hp engine as the last gen Civic, and he's getting 7.2 L/100km in the city (measured from the gas station fillup to full). The 3 that my neighbor has gets about 9.8 or 10L/100km in the city. The 3 is a lot faster, but it depends what you want it for.
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3...the 5 door model.
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Originally Posted by 1killercls
3...the 5 door model.
i saw the title of this thread just now and I was waiting for you to chime in...and their you were!!
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Scion tC > Mazda 3> Civic
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i have a mazda 3 hatch fully loaded. if you want unlimited aftermarket, go with civic. they dont have that much stuff for the 3 in the performance category. only intake and some exhaust company i never heard of. only one i herd of is borla and magnaflow.
no one make street legal headers cuz they have 2 catalytic converter. on the one exhaust pipes and the other that is engraved to the headers so no other company make one that is street legal.
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unlimited aftermarket support = civic
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I hate to say it but I'd take a Mazda3 over the last gen Civic. But if you're in that price range, why not look at a Scion? (Maybe I'm saying this because there is no Scion in Canada ... ... but we do have a Smart car ... haha -- what a sad looking car)
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Definatley choose the 3 over last gen Civic...as people have said, its leaps and bounds over that Civic...
Old 12-24-2005, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bl^5
@ <$16K I would not be getting a new civic. By $16K I mean otd price.

It would have to be an older (ie 03 and above) Civic EX.
Older civic....

Why buy use when you can buy new?
Old 12-24-2005, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GTRspeeder
i have a mazda 3 hatch fully loaded. if you want unlimited aftermarket, go with civic. they dont have that much stuff for the 3 in the performance category. only intake and some exhaust company i never heard of. only one i herd of is borla and magnaflow.
no one make street legal headers cuz they have 2 catalytic converter. on the one exhaust pipes and the other that is engraved to the headers so no other company make one that is street legal.
Thanks for that input.

The main thing that makes me shy away from the MZ3 is the availability of parts. In 4 or 5 years when I have to start fixing on it I don't want to have to search and pay an arm and a leg for parts for it. With the civic I would not have that problem.

But the civic doesn't have navi, leather, and hid's for $16K like the MZ3 I found...
Old 12-24-2005, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AsianRage
Older civic....

Why buy use when you can buy new?
I can't get a fully loaded new civic for $16K. Even if I could I HATE BUYING NEW CARS. I hate dealerships, I hate their salesmen, and most of all I hate driving off of a lot and losing $2K to $4K immediately. If this were Dec. '06 I would be definitely be looking at getting a slightly used '06 Civic fully loaded for under $18K
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Originally Posted by derrick
I hate to say it but I'd take a Mazda3 over the last gen Civic. But if you're in that price range, why not look at a Scion? (Maybe I'm saying this because there is no Scion in Canada ... ... but we do have a Smart car ... haha -- what a sad looking car)
No Scion:
Need 4 Doors, something that doesn't look like a fallen fridge, and something bigger than my thumb.
Old 12-25-2005, 09:33 AM
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Mazda 3 hands down.
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Originally Posted by bl^5
No Scion:
Need 4 Doors, something that doesn't look like a fallen fridge, and something bigger than my thumb.
at fridge comment
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Originally Posted by GTRspeeder
i have a mazda 3 hatch fully loaded. if you want unlimited aftermarket, go with civic. they dont have that much stuff for the 3 in the performance category. only intake and some exhaust company i never heard of. only one i herd of is borla and magnaflow.
no one make street legal headers cuz they have 2 catalytic converter. on the one exhaust pipes and the other that is engraved to the headers so no other company make one that is street legal.
Actually...all sorts of goodies for the 3..(Our Mazda 6i has the same motor as the 3)



ATH - Autosport Tuning Hinsberger - Body Kits, Exhaust, Rims

Corksport - Body Kits, Exhaust, Suspension, Intakes, JDM Emblems, Underdrive Pulleys

Duratec Performance - Suspension, Intakes, Headers

JapanParts - Body Kits, Suspension, Seats, Exhaust

Liteswap - HID Kits

Mazdaformance - OEM Accessories

Mazdastuff - OEM Accessories

MS Design - Body Kits, Rims

Spec R Performance - Body Kits (ATH, Mazdaspeed, Kenstyle, MPS, Black Racing, Autoexe), Brakes, Exhuast, Suspension, Tinted Headlights & Tails, Seats, Intake

Boom Plus Toys - Autoexe Parts

Finish Line Performance - OEM Accessories

Razzi - Body Kit

http://www.hiboost.com Mazda 3 Turbo!!!

http://www.autornd.com/catalog/ AutoExe, MintBlue, Endless, Zeal, Work Wheels, Volk Racing Wheels, 5Zigens, etc...
Suspension: Espelir, Eibach, RSR, etc...
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Originally Posted by bl^5
I can't get a fully loaded new civic for $16K. Even if I could I HATE BUYING NEW CARS. I hate dealerships, I hate their salesmen, and most of all I hate driving off of a lot and losing $2K to $4K immediately. If this were Dec. '06 I would be definitely be looking at getting a slightly used '06 Civic fully loaded for under $18K
I agree with you on the dealerships. When I bought my wife's MDX, I did all negotiations via fax. I wrote all the specs and faxed all the dealers in the DFW area. I made them compete against each other. Saved almost $5K and the dealer even threw in the all-season mats and cargo liner. When I picked up the MDX, I was in and out in 30 minutes. Of course, they still tried to sell me stuff but said no to all other offers. Hope this helps. Goodluck!
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Check this out

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...line.promo.5.*
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Originally Posted by cheepung
Nice comparo, IMO both the new Civic and Mazda3 are way at the top of their class.
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Go with the 3
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civic si all i got to say
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Originally Posted by cheepung
I agree with the results, but there is one area where I disagree with that Edmunds comparo. They lionize the Mazda3's interior as if it set the benchmark - it doesn't. I thought that even the last gen Civic had better materials than the Mazda3 when it first came out, and I thought Honda had really lost its way with that Civic's interior quality.
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if it's not the new civics, i'd go with the 3.
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well...I don't like Mazda
but only with last gen CIVIC I will take mazda 3 according to its interior and newer looking
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Originally Posted by bl^5
No Scion:
Need 4 Doors, something that doesn't look like a fallen fridge, and something bigger than my thumb.
Have you sat in the back of the ScionTc??? It has more room in the back than the Civic.....reclining seats....


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