Civic GX?
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Civic GX?
Has anybody ever actually seen one of these or driven one? According to Honda's website it is for sale in all 50 states and has been for quite some time but I can't say I have ever even seen one.
If anybody here has driven one I'd like to hear your opinions. I'm not thinking about buying one...just curious as to what they're like.
If anybody here has driven one I'd like to hear your opinions. I'm not thinking about buying one...just curious as to what they're like.
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I don't think it's available for straight retail sales in all 50 states. If my memory is correct it is available for fleet sales in all 50 states and then available in 16-30 states (with the proper infrastrucutre) for regular retail customers.
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I've wondered about those, too. If the compression stations weren't so expensive, they would make a kick ass commuting car--you basically would never leave the house without a full tank (if you get the newer 1 gph home compressors). I think the range is like 150 miles IIRC. And there are some stations around, too. There are maybe 10-15 Clean Energy branded stations here in DFW.
(I looked into getting a GX for my company's runabout vehicle recently.)
(I looked into getting a GX for my company's runabout vehicle recently.)
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I always see one around Cupertino when I went to school over there. It basically looked like a Civic hybrid, same wheels. I don't know much about them, but it was a sedan, same generation as the EP Civic Si hatch.
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There are only 4 states where the GX is available for retail sale.
04/26/2010 - TORRANCE, Calif. - American Honda Motor Co., Inc., today announced that dealers in Oklahoma will now have the option of selling the compressed natural gas (CNG) powered Honda Civic GX to customers on a retail basis. There are 13 Honda dealers in Oklahoma, three of which are already selling the Civic GX as a fleet vehicle.
"Expanding Honda's Civic GX retail program along with the continued success of fleet sales expresses our commitment to the environment and natural gas vehicle technology," said Elmer Hardy, senior manager of Alternative Fuel Vehicle Sales & Marketing. "Honda seeks market opportunities for the Civic GX where strong natural gas refueling infrastructure exists, and we continue to see its promise as a clean, sustainable, domestically-sourced alternative fuel."
Honda is the only OEM currently selling a CNG-powered vehicle on a retail basis in the United States. Additionally, the Civic GX is the only OEM-built, CNG-powered passenger car assembled in America. The Civic GX is built on the same assembly line as the gasoline-powered Civic 4-door models at Honda's Greensburg, Indiana manufacturing facility.
In 2006, the Civic GX became available for the first time to retail customers in California. Since then, retail sales have expanded to New York, Utah and now, Oklahoma. Currently, 43 dealers in California, 19 in New York and eight in Utah have added Retail Sales Addendums to their Honda Sales Agreements that enable them to sell the Civic GX on a retail basis. When including dealerships that sell fleet vehicles, there are a total of 134 Civic GX dealers in 33 states.
Oklahoma is an ideal market to expand retail sales of the Civic GX with its low refueling costs, a generous state tax incentive toward the purchase of a new Civic GX and solid fleet sales. As the second largest natural gas producing state in the U.S., Oklahoma already has a strong existing CNG station infrastructure with robust plans to expand the network over the next several years.
The 2010 Civic GX achieves an EPA-estimated city/highway fuel economy of 24/36** miles per gasoline-gallon equivalent and is the only vehicle certified by the EPA to meet both Federal Tier 2-Bin 2 and Inherently Low Emission Vehicle (ILEV) zero evaporative emission certification standards. Additionally, the Honda Civic GX is the cleanest internal combustion vehicle ever tested by the EPA, and for the seventh straight year, the Civic GX NGV was named "Greenest Vehicle" by the American Council for an Energy Efficient Economy (ACEEE).
For more information or downloadable high-resolution images of Honda vehicles, please visit www.hondanews.com. Consumer information is available at www.honda.com.
* EPA Tier-2, Bin-2 and ILEV certification as of May 2009
**Based on 2010 EPA mileage estimates, reflecting new EPA fuel economy methods beginning with 2008 models. Use for comparison purposes only. Do not compare to models before 2008. Your actual mileage will vary depending on
"Expanding Honda's Civic GX retail program along with the continued success of fleet sales expresses our commitment to the environment and natural gas vehicle technology," said Elmer Hardy, senior manager of Alternative Fuel Vehicle Sales & Marketing. "Honda seeks market opportunities for the Civic GX where strong natural gas refueling infrastructure exists, and we continue to see its promise as a clean, sustainable, domestically-sourced alternative fuel."
Honda is the only OEM currently selling a CNG-powered vehicle on a retail basis in the United States. Additionally, the Civic GX is the only OEM-built, CNG-powered passenger car assembled in America. The Civic GX is built on the same assembly line as the gasoline-powered Civic 4-door models at Honda's Greensburg, Indiana manufacturing facility.
In 2006, the Civic GX became available for the first time to retail customers in California. Since then, retail sales have expanded to New York, Utah and now, Oklahoma. Currently, 43 dealers in California, 19 in New York and eight in Utah have added Retail Sales Addendums to their Honda Sales Agreements that enable them to sell the Civic GX on a retail basis. When including dealerships that sell fleet vehicles, there are a total of 134 Civic GX dealers in 33 states.
Oklahoma is an ideal market to expand retail sales of the Civic GX with its low refueling costs, a generous state tax incentive toward the purchase of a new Civic GX and solid fleet sales. As the second largest natural gas producing state in the U.S., Oklahoma already has a strong existing CNG station infrastructure with robust plans to expand the network over the next several years.
The 2010 Civic GX achieves an EPA-estimated city/highway fuel economy of 24/36** miles per gasoline-gallon equivalent and is the only vehicle certified by the EPA to meet both Federal Tier 2-Bin 2 and Inherently Low Emission Vehicle (ILEV) zero evaporative emission certification standards. Additionally, the Honda Civic GX is the cleanest internal combustion vehicle ever tested by the EPA, and for the seventh straight year, the Civic GX NGV was named "Greenest Vehicle" by the American Council for an Energy Efficient Economy (ACEEE).
For more information or downloadable high-resolution images of Honda vehicles, please visit www.hondanews.com. Consumer information is available at www.honda.com.
* EPA Tier-2, Bin-2 and ILEV certification as of May 2009
**Based on 2010 EPA mileage estimates, reflecting new EPA fuel economy methods beginning with 2008 models. Use for comparison purposes only. Do not compare to models before 2008. Your actual mileage will vary depending on
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That's odd because I found this on the Civic GX website:
See here: http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-gx/refueling.aspx
But stranger still...the dealer locator says the nearest Civic GX dealer to Portland is in Auburn, California. I'm so confused...
As for the GX itself, it's available for sale in all 50 states.
But stranger still...the dealer locator says the nearest Civic GX dealer to Portland is in Auburn, California. I'm so confused...
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Southern Oregon has a bunch, state of Oregon uses them as well as Civic hybrids. I'm quite sure Salem has a fueling station, I've seen CNG Civics on the road. Andrew, you can see some on 217 and 26 if you look carefully for the sticker on the back trunk area.
I know specifically the Medford Honda dealership has sold them for years, Avista utilities has a fueling station and some of their employees fuel their cars for rock-bottom prices.
I know specifically the Medford Honda dealership has sold them for years, Avista utilities has a fueling station and some of their employees fuel their cars for rock-bottom prices.
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Yeah, they look like regular Civics or more like Civic Hybrids.
Just with the NGV stickers where it would say DOHC on the Civic Si and a compressed natural gas decal on the back too.
Other than that, it looks like every other Civic out there.
Just with the NGV stickers where it would say DOHC on the Civic Si and a compressed natural gas decal on the back too.
Other than that, it looks like every other Civic out there.
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The beauty of natural gas is that we have enough in this country to not only be self sufficient but actually EXPORT and do so for many years.
Thats approximately $700 billion that would no longer leave our country but stay here to be used by Americans. In addition, we'd be making a few hundred billion each year.
Thats approximately $700 billion that would no longer leave our country but stay here to be used by Americans. In addition, we'd be making a few hundred billion each year.
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Good luck finding one used. I've never seen one for sale here. In fact, I want to say that every one I've seen has been part of a fleet.
I love the idea of a CNG powered car....as a second car. The only reason I wouldn't want one as my only source of transport is the same reason I wouldn't want to go solely electric. Range and lack of infrastructure. Now, if I had an electric car I could drive it to and from work and around town no problems. In fact, we have facilities here at work to charge electric vehicles and they will let us do so free of charge. That's all well and good, but if I wanted to go somewhere beyond half the range of the car, I'm SOL. I frequently drive to south Florida. That's a little over 200 miles each way. Less than half a tank in the TSX, and I can refuel anywhere quickly. With electric, no such luck. I'd be lucky to make it there. Same with CNG. And with CNG I'm left with no way to refuel.
The point isn't a new one. I would love to be able to swear off gasoline, but the pure and simple fact is that without infrastructure for an alternative fuel source, it ain't gonna happen.
I love the idea of a CNG powered car....as a second car. The only reason I wouldn't want one as my only source of transport is the same reason I wouldn't want to go solely electric. Range and lack of infrastructure. Now, if I had an electric car I could drive it to and from work and around town no problems. In fact, we have facilities here at work to charge electric vehicles and they will let us do so free of charge. That's all well and good, but if I wanted to go somewhere beyond half the range of the car, I'm SOL. I frequently drive to south Florida. That's a little over 200 miles each way. Less than half a tank in the TSX, and I can refuel anywhere quickly. With electric, no such luck. I'd be lucky to make it there. Same with CNG. And with CNG I'm left with no way to refuel.
The point isn't a new one. I would love to be able to swear off gasoline, but the pure and simple fact is that without infrastructure for an alternative fuel source, it ain't gonna happen.
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Good luck finding one used. I've never seen one for sale here. In fact, I want to say that every one I've seen has been part of a fleet.
I love the idea of a CNG powered car....as a second car. The only reason I wouldn't want one as my only source of transport is the same reason I wouldn't want to go solely electric. Range and lack of infrastructure. Now, if I had an electric car I could drive it to and from work and around town no problems. In fact, we have facilities here at work to charge electric vehicles and they will let us do so free of charge. That's all well and good, but if I wanted to go somewhere beyond half the range of the car, I'm SOL. I frequently drive to south Florida. That's a little over 200 miles each way. Less than half a tank in the TSX, and I can refuel anywhere quickly. With electric, no such luck. I'd be lucky to make it there. Same with CNG. And with CNG I'm left with no way to refuel.
The point isn't a new one. I would love to be able to swear off gasoline, but the pure and simple fact is that without infrastructure for an alternative fuel source, it ain't gonna happen.
I love the idea of a CNG powered car....as a second car. The only reason I wouldn't want one as my only source of transport is the same reason I wouldn't want to go solely electric. Range and lack of infrastructure. Now, if I had an electric car I could drive it to and from work and around town no problems. In fact, we have facilities here at work to charge electric vehicles and they will let us do so free of charge. That's all well and good, but if I wanted to go somewhere beyond half the range of the car, I'm SOL. I frequently drive to south Florida. That's a little over 200 miles each way. Less than half a tank in the TSX, and I can refuel anywhere quickly. With electric, no such luck. I'd be lucky to make it there. Same with CNG. And with CNG I'm left with no way to refuel.
The point isn't a new one. I would love to be able to swear off gasoline, but the pure and simple fact is that without infrastructure for an alternative fuel source, it ain't gonna happen.
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/1724439437.html
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac...746463605.html
The one I saw at a Honda dealer was I think $24-25k Sticker. I don't remember but it was new.
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