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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Chevy Tahoe or Ford Expedition . . .

as a rental for a trip to Death Valley Nat’l Park? Want to take something else this time so we can go to the “race track” & Titus Canyon. Don’t care about gas mileage; company credit card.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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The new Tahoe...if you can get one as a rental.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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That's like asking if you'd like lima beans or brussels sprouts. They both suck, but one has to have an advantage.

Tahoe for now.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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I vote Tahoe.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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i had an 03 expedition... dont ask me why.... go with the tahoe
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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Tahoe...I had a new 06 expedition last month on a job....I did not driving it all.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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Neither, I'd go for a Durango; I think Dollar Car rents the Hemi ones. Or even better yet you can rent a Dodge Magnum RT with a Hemi from Hertz, those things are fun to open up on the highway.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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Neither, I'd go for a Durango; I think Dollar Car rents the Hemi ones. Or even better yet you can rent a Dodge Magnum RT with a Hemi from Hertz, those things are fun to open up on the highway.
My 2001 CL-S is fun on the highway! This is to beat the hell out of on the dirt roads in the valley. Got a Tahoe for (4) days with no mileage limit for $233.78.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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My 2001 CL-S is fun on the highway! This is to beat the hell out of on the dirt roads in the valley. Got a Tahoe for (4) days with no mileage limit for $233.78.
Ahh, you're going off road well in that case I'd definitely go for the Hemi Durango rental, it's a little smaller and nimbler then the other two.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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Tahoe hands down. Plus It will get better mileage (less stopping)
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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I've driven both, almost bought both, have friends that own both. Hands down I'd have to say the Chevy Tahoe....
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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Wow, why the anti-Ford bias? We own an 03 Expedition Eddie Bauer, and it's our third Expedition (98, 99, 03) The Tahoe's restyling for 07 is four years late to the Ford styling party, and they can't duplicate the Expy's power fold third row and rear power vent windows. What the heck is a "power fold and release" second row on the Tahoe when I still have to manually remove the split third row to gain space in the rear?

Well, you're renting instead of buying, so just rent with whoever's cheaper, regardless of which brand they stock. I think the Tahoe is just playing catch-up. Now, the Yukon Denali and Escalade are a different story, with their equipment and power level.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Tahoe without a doubt, my boy had an Expedition and that thing sucked ass..
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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Wow, why the anti-Ford bias? We own an 03 Expedition Eddie Bauer, and it's our third Expedition (98, 99, 03) The Tahoe's restyling for 07 is four years late to the Ford styling party, and they can't duplicate the Expy's power fold third row and rear power vent windows. What the heck is a "power fold and release" second row on the Tahoe when I still have to manually remove the split third row to gain space in the rear?

The Tahoe delivers smoother excelerations and more low end power. It is a more comfortable seating position, and roomier cockpit. Its drives a lot nicer.

I hated the expedition when I got in the drivers seat...it feels really high, and doesnt put you in a good seating position..its hard to look round to your blind spots...specially when the headrests are one big part of the seat. It had no balls on the low end. and for such a big car why were my knees knocking against the door panels (im short at 5'8" but with long legs and I sit pretty far back.)

So, ford loses. I dont believe the older gen denalis had anymore power then the tahoes...but this model year does.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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Tahoe without a doubt, my boy had an Expedition and that thing sucked ass..
Would you elaborate? Sucked ass is pretty vague.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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holy shit...did I really type out acceleration like that
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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The Tahoe delivers smoother excelerations and more low end power. It is a more comfortable seating position, and roomier cockpit. Its drives a lot nicer.

I hated the expedition when I got in the drivers seat...it feels really high, and doesnt put you in a good seating position..its hard to look round to your blind spots...specially when the headrests are one big part of the seat. It had no balls on the low end. and for such a big car why were my knees knocking against the door panels (im short at 5'8" but with long legs and I sit pretty far back.)

So, ford loses. I dont believe the older gen denalis had anymore power then the tahoes...but this model year does.
Can't get comfortable with power seats AND power adjustable pedals? Sounds like user error. Also, which engine are you comparing to? We have the 5.4 and no problems with acceleration.

It's hard to go wrong with either.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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Can't get comfortable with power seats AND power adjustable pedals? Sounds like user error. Also, which engine are you comparing to? We have the 5.4 and no problems with acceleration.

It's hard to go wrong with either.
I didnt say I couldnt get comfortable. I said the seating postion doesnt feel good. It feels unatural for a moving vehicle. And For such a large car the cockpit is tiny...my knee shouldnt be pinned again the door when I bring it up to relax. I didn't like driving it and it wasnt fun.

When I had a tahoe rental I had a lot of fun driving it. And it didn't bog under weight (equipment in the back.)

Its preference...and my preference is nuts to Ford. I had the same feelings after driving a rental explorer 2 year ago. Didn't like it, and it SUCKS when it has weight in it.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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I didnt say I couldnt get comfortable. I said the seating postion doesnt feel good. It feels unatural for a moving vehicle. And For such a large car the cockpit is tiny...my knee shouldnt be pinned again the door when I bring it up to relax. I didn't like driving it and it wasnt fun.

When I had a tahoe rental I had a lot of fun driving it. And it didn't bog under weight (equipment in the back.)

Its preference...and my preference is nuts to Ford. I had the same feelings after driving a rental explorer 2 year ago. Didn't like it, and it SUCKS when it has weight in it.
Uncomfortable=doesn't feel good, or am I missing something? I'm 5' 10" and my wife is 5' 4" and it's her truck. We both like the space. Again, if you had the 4.6 V8 I'd agree power-wise, but the 5.4 is a different animal. But, you say you're not a Ford man, so that may be coloring your views. I love GM, I love Ford, not much of a Chrysler fan, but I know that good product is good product. The Expedition is good product with many features not even available on the Tahoe.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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Expedition. The 2nd row seats recline.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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My brother gets a new Eddie Bauer Expedition every 2 years. I like the Expedition, it feels solid and well built to me. What I don't like is the steering is way overboosted and I agree with Sarlacc with it being underpowered - the 5.4 just doesn't feel torquey enough. I've pulled my boat behind it (both his 1st and 2nd gens) with me and 3 others and the power is only adequate. A positive is that for the 3 or 4 Expeditions he has had, nothing ever went wrong with them requiring a trip to the dealer. Of course he only had around 40K on them when he turned them back in to the dealership.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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Good point! Also as I said, if space is important, the Expy's third row folds flat, without coming out of the vehicle, and it has indepedent rear suspension.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fast-tl
Uncomfortable=doesn't feel good, or am I missing something? I'm 5' 10" and my wife is 5' 4" and it's her truck. We both like the space. Again, if you had the 4.6 V8 I'd agree power-wise, but the 5.4 is a different animal. But, you say you're not a Ford man, so that may be coloring your views. I love GM, I love Ford, not much of a Chrysler fan, but I know that good product is good product. The Expedition is good product with many features not even available on the Tahoe.
Perhaps its coloring views, perhaps not.

It was not a good driving experience. I did not enjoy or like it.

The interior was nice enough, and the space in the back to work out of was decent. It got us off road and where we needed it to. It did its job. Would I own one? No. I personally find the Tahoe to be much more fun and pleasurable drive. As for the engine. I have no clue, but since it was a rental I assume the smaller one then.
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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Expedition. The 2nd row seats recline.
So does my Tahoe
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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Guys, it's a RENTAL! Does this thread really require 2+ pages?!
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Last gen Denali was the official government car, that's class
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Car and driver did an off road test with the Exp in death valley. The Exp did take it, but the over hangs were too low & they damaged the body.
I'd go with the Tahoe.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Guys, it's a RENTAL! Does this thread really require 2+ pages?!
Now now, no need to get defensive because your expedition is taking it in the ass
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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Can't get comfortable with power seats AND power adjustable pedals? Sounds like user error. Also, which engine are you comparing to? We have the 5.4 and no problems with acceleration.

It's hard to go wrong with either.
The seats arent as comfortable as the tahoes. and as for power teh 5.4 sucks! Ive got the expedition eddie bauer with the 5.4 and the tahoe will eat it for lunch in acceleration. And dont even get me started on the mileage that the 5.4 gets
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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^ buyer's remorse
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
The seats arent as comfortable as the tahoes. and as for power teh 5.4 sucks! Ive got the expedition eddie bauer with the 5.4 and the tahoe will eat it for lunch in acceleration. And dont even get me started on the mileage that the 5.4 gets
The Exp's 5.4L 300HP '05 and up has improved the MPG and they're are about as fast as the new Tahoe's. C&D got 12MPG with the Tahoe despite the 16/22 MFG rated it at, it's not better then the Exp.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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Tahoe...I had a new 06 expedition last month on a job....I did not driving it all.
The new '07 Exp is going to be a LOT better then the current Exp which you drove.
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The Exp's 5.4L 300HP '05 and up has improved the MPG and they're are about as fast as the new Tahoe's. C&D got 12MPG with the Tahoe despite the 16/22 MFG rated it at, it's not better then the Exp.
You beat me to it, thanks.!
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The Exp's 5.4L 300HP '05 and up has improved the MPG and they're are about as fast as the new Tahoe's. C&D got 12MPG with the Tahoe despite the 16/22 MFG rated it at, it's not better then the Exp.
Ford will never catch chevy in terms of performance and mileage. and as for mileage, listening to what a magazine got isnt really real life, they are out having the time of their life beating ad testing for a short time. I have owned both (the only reason i have the ford right now is a got a killer deal on it and needed a truck) and i can tell you that the real life between the 2 is that the chevy(gmc) hands it its ass hands down. the yukon with the 5.3 was far more powerfull and alot better mileage than the exp. (by about 5mpg on the hwy)
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The new '07 Exp is going to be a LOT better then the current Exp which you drove.
Are the 07s out...it may have been an O7. It was rented in early last March and still had dealer tags on it. They hadnt even taken the remote fob out of the envelope yet.

It had the newer headlight design like the new explorer.

Either way I didnt like it.
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Ford will never catch chevy in terms of performance and mileage. and as for mileage, listening to what a magazine got isnt really real life, they are out having the time of their life beating ad testing for a short time. I have owned both (the only reason i have the ford right now is a got a killer deal on it and needed a truck) and i can tell you that the real life between the 2 is that the chevy(gmc) hands it its ass hands down. the yukon with the 5.3 was far more powerfull and alot better mileage than the exp. (by about 5mpg on the hwy)
What year is your Exp?
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Are the 07s out...it may have been an O7. It was rented in early last March and still had dealer tags on it. They hadnt even taken the remote fob out of the envelope yet.

It had the newer headlight design like the new explorer.

Either way I didnt like it.
Did it looks like this?



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Nope, was an 06 then.
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