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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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Cayenne Turbo Killer?













Some info. from Car & Driver

engine: v8 6.1 420HP@6200 and 420Torque @ 4800

redline: 6200

Transmission: 5 speed auto

0~60mph: 4.5sec
0~110mph: 12.0sec
0~130mph: 24.0sec
1/4 mile @mph: 13.2@104
top speed: 155 (drag ltd, mfr's est)

EPA city: 12
EPA HWY: 15
C/D 100-mile trip: 12

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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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There have been plenty of posts on this vehicle. Do a search.
And one of our moderator's fathers just got one.

Yes, its a Cayenne Turbo...in nothing else if not price alone.
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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Was it C&D that compared that to the Trailblazer SS and thought it was better than the SRT8?
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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I wonder what the repost to user post count ratio is?
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Originally Posted by Shoofin
Was it C&D that compared that to the Trailblazer SS and thought it was better than the SRT8?
How did it think it was better?

Perhaps handling wise because it has a smaller wheelbase?

Trailblazer SS does nothing for me personally.
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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kinda slow... I wanna see SUV's trapping in the 110's and 120's soon. Because, well, just because.
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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Looking at those fuel economy #'s zaps any interest I had in this truck. While it's cool, I feel it's useless for a SUV. I'd rather have a slower SUV, save the cash and buy a more fun overall package sports car as the second car to get my performance kick.

Based on my friend's old 5.9L Grand Cherokee, driving it like it's meant to be driven will net you an average fuel economy in the single digits.
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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Looks like it's kill even the new Cayenne Turbo S!
Performance
520 hp (SAE) @ 5,500 rpm
0-60 mph: 4.8 sec.
Top Track Speed: 168 mph
MSRP
$111,600

I agree that the fuel econ #s are NOT sexy!
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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Yeah my dads got one, I've taken it out a few times, it halls ass. Fastest SUV ever. The Porsche models weight a lot more and thats why the SRT is faster. What an amazing car.
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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Sometimes I worry where these comparisons are based purely on 0-60 numbers. Porsche didn't build this vehicle just to go fast in a straight line for a short sprint. They built it to be as capable off road as it is on road. It is fast, agile, grippy, sporting, and luxurious at the same time it can climb, crawl, and thrash like just about any other off-road-intended SUV. Try for one minute to have the Jeep actually keep up in performance with the Cayenne in an all-around test that compares not only the 0-60 and 1/4 mile numbers but also put them to the test in the slalom, road course, braking and then throws them through a few tests of the off-road ability. Hey Car and Driver, Road & Track, Automobile...anyone want to do this to shut me up?

Bottom line: The Cayenne would kill it in a number of tests.
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Bottom line: The Cayenne would kill it in a number of tests.
no it wouldnt, absolutely not. The porsche is ugly and so overated and overpriced, and porsche is pissed that Jeep has a better and faster SUV. I know first hand with driving my dads current jeep, and other jeeps in the past few years. My friends mom bought a freakin cayenne for $112K how stupid, I drove it, NOT impressed.....
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
Try for one minute to have the Jeep actually keep up in performance with the Cayenne in an all-around test that compares not only the 0-60 and 1/4 mile numbers but also put them to the test in the slalom, road course, braking and then throws them through a few tests of the off-road ability.
The Cayenne is obviously designed to go offroad, the Jeep is not.

But that aside, the Jeep excels in most if not all performance categories as when compared to the Porsche.

Read any reviews yet?


Anyway, C&D picked the SS because it can tow more than the Jeep. Basically that its a more useful vehicle.
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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Yeah the Jeep can only tow 3500 lbs or so. It was made more for performance then off road, but can still go off road.
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikes96TL03CLS
no it wouldnt, absolutely not. The porsche is ugly and so overated and overpriced, and porsche is pissed that Jeep has a better and faster SUV. I know first hand with driving my dads current jeep, and other jeeps in the past few years. My friends mom bought a freakin cayenne for $112K how stupid, I drove it, NOT impressed.....
That's your opinion. I'd take a Cayenne over a Jeep anyday of the week taking price out of the equation. I personally think the Jeep design is boring and way too boxy.
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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That's your opinion. I'd take a Cayenne over a Jeep anyday of the week taking price out of the equation. I personally think the Jeep design is boring and way too boxy.
well majority of people I talk to, and articles I read, the Porsche is just flat out ugly, and ya thats your opinion......
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikes96TL03CLS
well majority of people I talk to, and articles I read, the Porsche is just flat out ugly, and ya thats your opinion......
Jeep didn't do anything groundbreaking in their design of the GC. It's basically an evolutionary design, which is very boxy. After reading the article on the Trailblazer SS, that would be my choice. The SBC(LS2) is a better engine and the aftermarket is very nice. A simple cam swap and tune and bye bye SRT.
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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If price was not an issue I would take the Porsche as well. That said, I think these "sport" SUV's are useless in the first place and would never buy one (or an SUV) anyway. Thats just my opinion though.
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by West6MT
If price was not an issue I would take the Porsche as well. That said, I think these "sport" SUV's are useless in the first place and would never buy one (or an SUV) anyway. Thats just my opinion though.
Trailblazer SS can tow 6800 LBS, and I doubt its terrbile off road considering its only an inch lower than stock. Doesn't sound so useless to me.
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
Trailblazer SS can tow 6800 LBS, and I doubt its terrbile off road considering its only an inch lower than stock. Doesn't sound so useless to me.
Good point, the only reason I would ever consider getting an SUV would be if I had some big boat I needed to tow around. Still dont see the point of having these really fast SUV's though. Like I said,......just my opinion,......I think they are pretty useless (for the most part,........better?). I seriously doubt many of the ppl that are going to buy these SRT8 Jeeps or SS blazers etc take them off roading beyond the gravel road leading up to their cottage front door. If they actually use these things for off roading,.....I am fine with that.
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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Why do people chose Ferraris over Corvettes? both are fast....

Same reason people take a Cayenne Turbo S over a Grand Cherokee SRT-8. (if $ is no object)

Dont get me wrong, i love the SRT8.
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A simple cam swap and tune and bye bye SRT.
haha keep thinkin that. The SRT8 is MUCH faster then the SS Trailblazer. That's Chevys poor attempt to compete with the SRT8, NOT a chance.....
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 02:56 AM
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I love the GC SRT8 as well. But I think its way too low to the ground be a serious off roader.
It was designed for high speed street action.

I believe the Turbo Cayennes have an adjustable suspension which raises the car for offroad, am I correct on this?

I've only driven my Uncle's Cayenne S which still hauled ass, but no adjustable suspension.

I would also guess the Porchse might be that much better in the twistes.

Both I like them both a lot. I'd take either...Maybe the GC more so, only because Cayenne as a damned dime a dozen in LA.
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by The Sarlacc
I believe the Turbo Cayennes have an adjustable suspension which raises the car for offroad, am I correct on this?

I've only driven my Uncle's Cayenne S which still hauled ass, but no adjustable suspension.
The Turbo has the adjustable air suspension standard and the S has it available as an option. It's a simple switch right next to the shifter that allows for 4 levels of adjustment. It's pretty sweet.
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Both are HOT in their own way. However, both would probably get pounded by this 650hp Volvo XC90 PUV (although not production.......yet. ):


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0-110 in 12 seconds, but the quarter mile in 13.2 @ 104 mph? That doesn't sound right at all.

How can you get up to 110 in 12 seconds, but it takes you 13.2 to get to 104?

I'd rather have this thing:
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikes96TL03CLS
haha keep thinkin that. The SRT8 is MUCH faster then the SS Trailblazer. That's Chevys poor attempt to compete with the SRT8, NOT a chance.....
You know nothing about the LS1/LS2 Plus you don't know that LS2 edit firms up those lazy shifts and shift points. That's why you can't beat the LS series engine.
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikes96TL03CLS
haha keep thinkin that. The SRT8 is MUCH faster then the SS Trailblazer. That's Chevys poor attempt to compete with the SRT8, NOT a chance.....
I don't get it. So your father bought an SRT-8 and now you're out to prove a point to everyone how good it is and bad mouth everything else. Personally I think the Jeep SRT-8 is ugly and I'd pick the other 2 over it any day if it came down to looks. The LS2 engines have done some damage over quite a few years. Like he said, slap a couple of mods on the SS, and you'll have a much more versitile vehicle on and off road that can tow. Personally,I don't see a point of having a lowered high speed jeep. At least you can consider the Porsche a luxury SUV.

And there is such a thing as personal preference.
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Originally Posted by Shoofin
Was it C&D that compared that to the Trailblazer SS and thought it was better than the SRT8?

the SRT8 won almost every category, but they gave the SS points for the "gotta have it factor" that ultimately gave it the lead


WHAT THE FUCK :lol:
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Originally Posted by Mikes96TL03CLS
no it wouldnt, absolutely not. The porsche is ugly and so overated and overpriced, and porsche is pissed that Jeep has a better and faster SUV. I know first hand with driving my dads current jeep, and other jeeps in the past few years. My friends mom bought a freakin cayenne for $112K how stupid, I drove it, NOT impressed.....

you're an idiot and obviously have no clue what the cayenne is really capable of.


edit: I hadn't even gotten to the rest of your posts, all I can say is WOW, how did you ever last so long on a car forum
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The Cayenne is obviously designed to go offroad, the Jeep is not.
Cause I see tons of Cayenne Turbos hitting the trails.
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Cause I see tons of Cayenne Turbos hitting the trails.
Big deal, how many enzo's out there hit 200+ mph? It's a matter of being able to do it. I went out a few years on some trails w/ a buddy in his wrangler, actually saw a cayenne out there. THey are great offroad vehicles if need be.


How many cars/trucks/SUV's ever see their full potential
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Originally Posted by CLpower
Big deal, how many enzo's out there hit 200+ mph? It's a matter of being able to do it. I went out a few years on some trails w/ a buddy in his wrangler, actually saw a cayenne out there. THey are great offroad vehicles if need be.


How many cars/trucks/SUV's ever see their full potential

Lighten up Francis. My point was that I doubt there are many, if any people that bought the CT to go offroad. The demographic of people that buy $110k+ SUVs are probably not to go camping in the Adirondaks.
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Lighten up Francis. My point was that I doubt there are many, if any people that bought the CT to go offroad. The demographic of people that buy $110k+ SUVs are probably not to go camping in the Adirondaks.

Well, same w/ the Land Rover, but again, that thing can offroad like a tank
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Well, same w/ the Land Rover, but again, that thing can offroad like a tank

True true. In general, most SUVs are sold to soccermom driving, merlot drinking, mall shopping hags.
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True true. In general, most SUVs are sold to soccermom driving, merlot drinking, mall shopping hags.

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Who buys an SUV to go fast?

I think it's safe to assume that people buy the Porsche for many reasons, including the trim/finish, quality, resale value, status, etc. Most importantly because they can. People buy the Jeep so they can brag to all their friends that they paid half of what the Porsche costs and they can even go faster. Plus it's got a hemi!


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Who buys an SUV to go fast?

many people, why buy a car to go fast. Hell, we just cancelled our order for our SRT-8 and are putting a blower on our navigator
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many people, why buy a car to go fast. Hell, we just cancelled our order for our SRT-8 and are putting a blower on our navigator
I think putting a blower on the Nav should be a sufficient demonstration of yourselves being exceptions to the rule.
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you're an idiot and obviously have no clue what the cayenne is really capable of.
K this is a warning to you for the negative comments. It's my personal opinion about this. I have driven both and have reasons why I stand by the SRT8. The point of it is to NOT go off road. It's purely for race, I wouldn't take it off road anyway.


don't get it. So your father bought an SRT-8 and now you're out to prove a point to everyone how good it is and bad mouth everything else.
No I'm not, its personal opinion. I cant justify how people spend the money they do on the Porsche, it's purely stupid. Top magazines have even called it "UGLY"!! It may have some cool features, but not my cup of tee.



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