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Old 08-17-2010 | 12:47 PM
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Carfax/Autocheck question - NOT ASKING FOR CARFAX

I just ran an Autocheck for a car I'm interested in:

07/27/2005 TN
Independent Source VEHICLE MANUFACTURED AND SHIPPED TO DEALER
09/28/2005 TN
462
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:73382600)
REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle)
10/08/2008 KNOXVILLE, TN
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle)
01/26/2009 TN
46,982
Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION AS MANUFACTURER VEHICLE
What does Reported at Auto Auction as Manufacturer Vehicle mean? Does that mean it was used by Infiniti/Nissan for the first few years/46K miles?


Old 08-17-2010 | 12:51 PM
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<dl><dt> </dt><dt></dt><dt></dt><dt></dt><dt></dt><dt></dt><dt>From carfax glossary:</dt><dt> Manufacturer Vehicle — </dt><dd id="MANUFACTUREVEHICLE_dd">Manufacturer vehicles are vehicles put up for sale by the manufacturer. These vehicles are typically only available to dealers at special auctions. These vehicles have generally been registered as lease or rental vehicles. </dd></dl>it could be a rep. car. could be lots of things.
Old 08-17-2010 | 01:02 PM
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Shoofin would most likely know. It may just be a leased vehicle that was returned to a dealer and then run through a dealer-only auction. I don't think it's all that uncommon for a manufacturer to do this.




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Old 08-17-2010 | 02:57 PM
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It was off lease. I should have known, I used to buy cars from Nissan financial at dealer auctions
Old 08-17-2010 | 03:12 PM
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:duh: off lease
Old 08-17-2010 | 03:30 PM
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I wanted to buy the car and decided to google the guy's e-mail address.

Found a post on a different forum talking about a tick in the engine the dealer won't cover.
Old 08-17-2010 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by vas25tl
I wanted to buy the car and decided to google the guy's e-mail address.

Found a post on a different forum talking about a tick in the engine the dealer won't cover.
Sneaky...
Old 08-17-2010 | 04:12 PM
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I also ran Autocheck - came out clean.

Googled the VIN and found an old CARFAX from when the guy bought it that was still posted at the dealership he bought it from - which showed an accident.
Old 08-17-2010 | 04:16 PM
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sounds like you might be asking for more trouble than you bargain for with this M...what's the asking price on it? is it local?

as my rule of thumb, i never buy lease returns....unless it's CPO with extreme low mileage. they're like car rentals, where they're driven like stolen and then return to it's original owner.
Old 08-17-2010 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by vas25tl


I also ran Autocheck - came out clean.

Googled the VIN and found an old CARFAX from when the guy bought it that was still posted at the dealership he bought it from - which showed an accident.
Good detective skills! Probably saved you a lot of headaches.
Old 08-17-2010 | 08:02 PM
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^Hell yes!

It was an 06 with every option for $16,500 - I knew something was too good to be true. Back to looking at TL's.
Old 08-17-2010 | 11:01 PM
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^ Wacha lookin for?
Old 08-17-2010 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by vas25tl
I just ran an Autocheck for a car I'm interested in:



What does Reported at Auto Auction as Manufacturer Vehicle mean? Does that mean it was used by Infiniti/Nissan for the first few years/46K miles?


07/27/2005 TN
Independent Source VEHICLE MANUFACTURED AND SHIPPED TO DEALER
09/28/2005 TN
462
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:73382600)
REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle)
10/08/2008 KNOXVILLE, TN
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle)
01/26/2009 TN
46,982
Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION AS MANUFACTURER VEHICLE



BUT it doesn't always mean it's a leased vehicle. There are times that cars that are listed from the manufacturer direct (untitled vehicles), and offered to dealers, those are also listed as manufacturer vehicles too. A lot of times those cars are restricted to franchise dealers only as well..

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Old 08-18-2010 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by vas25tl
^Hell yes!

It was an 06 with every option for $16,500 - I knew something was too good to be true. Back to looking at TL's.
that's too cheap for a fully loaded '06 M45 w/ low miles. definitely something is up. according to edmunds, it should be in the 24-26K range. mind telling us where you found it?
Old 08-18-2010 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Shoofin
^ Wacha lookin for?
I think I found it last night

Originally Posted by Shoofin
07/27/2005 TN
Independent Source VEHICLE MANUFACTURED AND SHIPPED TO DEALER
09/28/2005 TN
462
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:73382600)
REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle)
10/08/2008 KNOXVILLE, TN
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle)
01/26/2009 TN
46,982
Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION AS MANUFACTURER VEHICLE



BUT it doesn't always mean it's a leased vehicle. There are times that cars that are listed from the manufacturer direct (untitled vehicles), and offered to dealers, those are also listed as manufacturer vehicles too. A lot of times those cars are restricted to franchise dealers only as well..
I was just afraid that it was a buy back.

Originally Posted by silver3.5
that's too cheap for a fully loaded '06 M45 w/ low miles. definitely something is up. according to edmunds, it should be in the 24-26K range. mind telling us where you found it?
Check the Appleton Craigslist. It's the only M45 there, he's asking $17900.
Old 08-18-2010 | 07:17 PM
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Back to TL's ?

3 year old CPO TL's are $2,000. more expensive in the NYC region this summer compared to last summer.....
Old 08-19-2010 | 09:21 AM
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^Yup. Hopefully picking up my 05 WDP TL 6-speed tonight
Old 08-19-2010 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by vas25tl
I think I found it last night


I was just afraid that it was a buy back.

Check the Appleton Craigslist. It's the only M45 there, he's asking $17900.
that price for that car is too good to be true...sounds too fishy!
post pics when you pick up your new TL.
Old 08-19-2010 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by silver3.5
that price for that car is too good to be true...sounds too fishy!
post pics when you pick up your new TL.
Oh I know it was too good to be true, that's why I was researching everything.
Old 08-19-2010 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by vas25tl
^Yup. Hopefully picking up my 05 WDP TL 6-speed tonight
Old 08-20-2010 | 07:44 AM
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Picked up the TL last night

Old 08-20-2010 | 07:50 AM
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^^ Nice choice, that's still the best TL.
Old 08-20-2010 | 08:09 AM
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Nice....what was the price ? The dealer should have the steamed cleaned the carpet and mats for you.
Old 08-20-2010 | 08:29 AM
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It wasn't from a dealer. I bought the car from my friend that works there. I will be detailing it this weekend.

It's an 05 TL 6-speed, navi, back up sensors, aspec kit with 67K. Synchros were replaced at 48K miles, front brakes a year old, rear brakes a month old.

I paid $16K+TTL

I tried getting him down more but he wouldn't budge. He was asking $17,900. It's impossible to find one with these options and I really wanted WDP/gray.
Old 08-20-2010 | 08:30 AM
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Also included was a set of OEM all weather mats and trunk tray. They're in the trunk right now but they're in mint condition.

I got 3 keys and 3 fobs from him (I'll be giving the third fob to my mother for her MDX as a spare since I have 2 for this one and 2 for my RL), I got all the books, first owners service records.

The car has two small door dings, very small and a tiny scratch that can use some touch up paint, otherwise it's in mint condition.
Old 08-20-2010 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by vas25tl
It wasn't from a dealer. I bought the car from my friend that works there. I will be detailing it this weekend.

It's an 05 TL 6-speed, navi, back up sensors, aspec kit with 67K. Synchros were replaced at 48K miles, front brakes a year old, rear brakes a month old.

I paid $16K+TTL

I tried getting him down more but he wouldn't budge. He was asking $17,900. It's impossible to find one with these options and I really wanted WDP/gray.
wow...being a friend and a private seller, that's a so so price according the edmunds. but i guess the market determines the going rate now so i guess it's all good, as long as you're happy! congrats!
Old 08-20-2010 | 11:53 AM
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wow...being a friend and a private seller, that's a so so price according the edmunds. but i guess the market determines the going rate now so i guess it's all good, as long as you're happy! congrats!
I've searched everywhere for a car like this with these options and it's impossible to find. Edmunds factors in cars sold nationally to figure out the value, it does not give you a good idea of a price for each individual car, just gives you a decent estimate.

I looked at post sales at auctions and I saw 05's in white selling for 17500 at AUCTION...granted with miles in the mid-upper 40's but who knows if it had navi, aspec kit, or what condition it was in.

Sure, I could have bought an 04 5AT with no nav for 14K with same or slightly lower miles but it would be a different color and hardly even close to being the same car.
Old 08-20-2010 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by vas25tl
I've searched everywhere for a car like this with these options and it's impossible to find. Edmunds factors in cars sold nationally to figure out the value, it does not give you a good idea of a price for each individual car, just gives you a decent estimate.

I looked at post sales at auctions and I saw 05's in white selling for 17500 at AUCTION...granted with miles in the mid-upper 40's but who knows if it had navi, aspec kit, or what condition it was in.

Sure, I could have bought an 04 5AT with no nav for 14K with same or slightly lower miles but it would be a different color and hardly even close to being the same car.
if you factor all that into the price then sure it makes sense but what i'm getting at is that he's a friend; a friend is suppose to help a friend, right?
Old 08-20-2010 | 12:07 PM
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My "friend" was selling it for $17,995 and was getting a ton of interest.

He paid $23K for it 2 years ago, he got it with 43K miles.

His wife even yelled at me last night when I was picking it up, she was very upset that he let it go for so low.
Old 08-20-2010 | 12:33 PM
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Awesome car, looking for one of these for my brother in law, but in automatic, same year or newer and around that many miles. It is really hard to find them that low at 16k, so you did do pretty well there.

Congratulations on the purchase.
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