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Jan 7, 2010 | 09:53 AM

#41

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From: Philly

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsttyms1

Of course i give it respect, its a fast car.

But people like to say oh the viper still is quicker. Sure if i brought a purpose built street car for the track i would expect it to win, just saying that if the vette were in similar trim it would no doubt set much quicker times.

I agree and am somewhat disapointed to see that Chevy hasn't done anything special to compete directly with the ACR. Competition is what makes everything better

Jan 7, 2010 | 01:47 PM

#42

fsttyms1

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From: Appleton WI

Quote:

Originally Posted by G

I agree and am somewhat disapointed to see that Chevy hasn't done anything special to compete directly with the ACR. Competition is what makes everything better

it would be neat to see a purpose built ZR1

Jan 7, 2010 | 03:00 PM

#43

Majofo

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From: Waffles, BU

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Originally Posted by 2K2SilverTL-S

Dont get me wrong, I like the 370Z. Just like the Vette, I think it offers tremendous performace for the dollar (the 370Z probably the best performaance for 40K, the Vette the best for 60K) . However, claims that the 370Z is a better track car or is faster around the track than a Vette are just plain false. A 14 sec differece in times is an eternity. The Virginia Raceway allows for a good mix of evaluaing power, handling, and braking

*ahem* The Camaro SS beat it by 2.5 secs.. & is >$4k less, with a backseat & trunk.

Last edited by Majofo; Jan 7, 2010 at 03:03 PM.

Jan 7, 2010 | 03:12 PM

#44

charliemike

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Majofo

*ahem* The Camaro SS beat it by 2.5 secs.. & is >$4k less, with a backseat & trunk.

And yet I still won't buy one. Ever.

Jan 7, 2010 | 03:13 PM

#45

Majofo

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care to explain why?

Jan 7, 2010 | 03:13 PM

#46

vkick

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2K2SilverTL-S

And for 370Z fanboys...this is pretty disturbing....

This isn't surprising. I know an evo and s2k doesnt come with competition pads. They are just to noisy when driving around town.

Jan 7, 2010 | 03:13 PM

#47

zeroday

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Quote:

Originally Posted by charliemike

Gets a Corvette and suddenly it's Jesus's chariot.

You like your car, awesome. Stop beating the rest of us over the head with Corvette shit.

It was annoying when MSL82 did it with Hyundai and 1SickLex did it with Lexus. And it's still annoying by every person who did it before or since.

Like Silverbullet and Lou. Every car they would buy would suddenly be >*. If you said anything bad about their cars you were a jealous hater.

Jan 7, 2010 | 03:24 PM

#48

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height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Chevrolet Camaro SS</td> <td class="xl26" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.193287037037037E-3" align="right">03:09.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">BMW 335i Coupe</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.204861111111111E-3" align="right">03:10.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Ford Shelby GT500</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2106481481481478E-3" align="right">03:11.0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">BMW Z4 M Coupe</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2187499999999998E-3" align="right">03:11.7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; 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height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Honda Civic Si Mugen</td> <td class="xl26" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.3703703703703703E-3" align="right">03:24.8</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">BMW M6</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.1990740740740742E-3" align="right">03:10.0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Audi S4</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2083333333333334E-3" align="right">03:10.8</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Audi RS4</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.212962962962963E-3" align="right">03:11.2</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Jan 7, 2010 | 03:28 PM

#49

Majofo

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hey charliemike.. it's faster than your S4 & the minicooper

Jan 7, 2010 | 03:37 PM

#50

Majofo

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Full VIR Lightning Lap list from 06-09

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height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Chevrolet Corvette Z51</td> <td class="xl26" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.0972222222222221E-3" align="right">03:01.2</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Dodge Viper SRT10 Coupe</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.1018518518518517E-3" align="right">03:01.6</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Porsche 911 GT3</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.1041666666666665E-3" align="right">03:01.8</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Chevrolet Corvette Z51</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.1250000000000002E-3" align="right">03:03.6</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Cadillac CTS-V</td> <td class="xl26" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.1296296296296298E-3" align="right">03:04.0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Lotus Exige S</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.135416666666667E-3" align="right">03:04.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Audi R8</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.1365740740740742E-3" align="right">03:04.6</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Lotus Exige S 260 Sport</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.1412037037037038E-3" align="right">03:05.0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; 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height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Porsche 911 Turbo</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.150462962962963E-3" align="right">03:05.8</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Ford Shelby GT500</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.1516203703703701E-3" align="right">03:05.9</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Jaguar XKR</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.1574074074074074E-3" align="right">03:06.4</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG</td> <td class="xl26" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.158564814814815E-3" align="right">03:06.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Ford Shelby GT500</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.1689814814814814E-3" align="right">03:07.4</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Audi TTS</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.1805555555555558E-3" align="right">03:08.4</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Lotus Elise</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.189814814814815E-3" align="right">03:09.2</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Chevrolet Corvette Z51</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.1909722222222222E-3" align="right">03:09.3</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Porsche Cayman S</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.193287037037037E-3" align="right">03:09.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Chevrolet Camaro SS</td> <td class="xl26" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.193287037037037E-3" align="right">03:09.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">BMW M6</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.1990740740740742E-3" align="right">03:10.0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">BMW 335i Coupe</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.204861111111111E-3" align="right">03:10.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Audi S4</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2083333333333334E-3" align="right">03:10.8</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Ford Shelby GT500</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2106481481481478E-3" align="right">03:11.0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Audi RS4</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.212962962962963E-3" align="right">03:11.2</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">BMW Z4 M Coupe</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2187499999999998E-3" align="right">03:11.7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Nissan 370Z NISMO</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2222222222222222E-3" align="right">03:12.0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Nissan 350Z Track</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2280092592592594E-3" align="right">03:12.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Chevrolet Cobalt SS</td> <td class="xl26" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2337962962962967E-3" align="right">03:13.0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Ford Mustang GT</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2372685185185186E-3" align="right">03:13.3</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR</td> <td class="xl26" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2372685185185186E-3" align="right">03:13.3</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2395833333333334E-3" align="right">03:13.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">BMW 135i</td> <td class="xl26" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2418981481481482E-3" align="right">03:13.7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Lexus IS F</td> <td class="xl26" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2453703703703702E-3" align="right">03:14.0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Audi S5</td> <td class="xl26" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2523148148148146E-3" align="right">03:14.6</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2546296296296294E-3" align="right">03:14.8</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Honda S2000 CR</td> <td class="xl26" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2569444444444447E-3" align="right">03:15.0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Pontiac Solstice GXP</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.2650462962962963E-3" align="right">03:15.7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; 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height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Honda Civic Si Mugen</td> <td class="xl26" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.3703703703703703E-3" align="right">03:24.8</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Volkswagen GTI</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.3738425925925928E-3" align="right">03:25.1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Honda Civic Si</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.3900462962962959E-3" align="right">03:26.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl27" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Volvo C30 Version 2.0</td> <td class="xl26" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.391203703703704E-3" align="right">03:26.6</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl24" style="border-top: medium none; height: 12.75pt;" height="17">Mazda MX-5</td> <td class="xl25" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;" x:num="2.4224537037037036E-3" align="right">03:29.3</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

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Jan 7, 2010 | 03:44 PM

#51

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Who cars how fast your car can get around that track with a "professional" driver?
The faster your car does not mean the bigger your C@ck!
How many of you people actully take your car to the track or autocross and do this to get full potential of your car?
And don't even say you do it on public roads cuz that the stupidest thing you can possibly do is put others in danger while deciding who's car is faster?
I don't know why everyone cares how fast you car can go 0-60 in or 1/4 mile or around a track?

Jan 7, 2010 | 04:20 PM

#52

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Originally Posted by StonedCL

Guessing you saw where the G37 was placed....

I'd love to own a Camaro.. drool.

Jan 7, 2010 | 04:41 PM

#53

GalantT3

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I'd like to see the new BMW M3 or the Mercedes C63 AMG go against the C6!

Even though technically they are not in the same league, they are comparable in perfomance and track numbers. Just my 2cents.

Jan 7, 2010 | 06:35 PM

#54

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Originally Posted by StonedCL

every post you make

Jan 7, 2010 | 06:55 PM

#55

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Originally Posted by G

I agree and am somewhat disapointed to see that Chevy hasn't done anything special to compete directly with the ACR. Competition is what makes everything better

C6.R....Game, Set, Match

I am disappointed in Nissan for not fully developing the 370Z. You think with all the time Nissan spent camping at the Ring, they would have brought some of that knowledge down to the Z.

Jan 7, 2010 | 07:18 PM

#56

majin ssj eric

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Acura

Guessing you saw where the G37 was placed....

I'd love to own a Camaro.. drool.

Lol!!!

Yeah, not too good I must say. I can't understand how the Gen coupe beat it by nearly 3 secs. C&D obviously sandbagged the G37S!!

Jan 7, 2010 | 07:37 PM

#57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StonedCL

Who cars how fast your car can get around that track with a "professional" driver?
The faster your car does not mean the bigger your C@ck!
How many of you people actully take your car to the track or autocross and do this to get full potential of your car?
And don't even say you do it on public roads cuz that the stupidest thing you can possibly do is put others in danger while deciding who's car is faster?
I don't know why everyone cares how fast you car can go 0-60 in or 1/4 mile or around a track?

Many of the folks here are auto performance enthusiasts, including yours truly.

So to answer your questions (in bold): yes, I do and I enjoy knowing its capabilities (though I'm not certain whether or not the third was an actual question or just an erroneously applied question mark at the end of a statement).

Jan 7, 2010 | 08:10 PM

#58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StonedCL

Com'mon Matt...you knew I bought the Vette from you because of its track numbers and not for those top down slow cruises

For those that dont know StonedCL (Matt), he is a great person (I'm a doctor and meet A LOT of people--so I'm pretty astute with these assessments). He is also the BEST person you could buy an Infiniti from (I also picked up an M35X for my Mom and the whole experience was top notch).

Jan 8, 2010 | 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximized

C6.R....Game, Set, Match

If you are going to compare that, then let's compare it to a Competition Coupe or ACR-X.

I'm talking about street legal, publicly available cars . . .

And StonedCL-you'd be surprised how many people actually do track their cars. Heck-I even raced mine competitively in a nation-wide series . . .

Jan 8, 2010 | 12:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Acura

Guessing you saw where the G37 was placed....

I'd love to own a Camaro.. drool.

I don't own a G37, my car is actully ALOT slower then that it would prob take 10 minutes to get around that track.. And I don't consider the G37 a Sports car its a luxury coupe/sedan that is sporty..

Jan 8, 2010 | 12:46 PM

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G , when u say "track" do u mean 1/4 mile at the track or autocross in a empty parkinglot with cones set up? I did take my Cl-s when I had it to englishtown to run 15 secong 1/4 miles and I did take it autocross to plow over some cones, but I don't consider any of those a track ?

Steve I thought u bought it so u can get a tan while getting head while going 140MPH!

Jan 8, 2010 | 12:58 PM

#62

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StonedCL

How many of you people actully take your car to the track or autocross and do this to get full potential of your car?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2K2SilverTL-S

Quote:

Originally Posted by StonedCL

Steve I thought u bought it so u can get a tan while getting head while going 140MPH!

Fail.

Jan 8, 2010 | 01:03 PM

#63

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Originally Posted by StonedCL

That picture of the viper on the track is G.

Jan 8, 2010 | 01:04 PM

#64

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Originally Posted by zeroday

Like Silverbullet (pimpin-tl) and Lou. Every car they would buy would suddenly be >*. If you said anything bad about their cars you were a jealous hater.

ahem, fixed

Jan 8, 2010 | 01:09 PM

#65

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StonedCL

Steve I thought u bought it so u can get a tan while getting head while going 140MPH!

haha...yea, that too Matt....

Jan 8, 2010 | 01:14 PM

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SO v6acord2k5 u track a 2005 V6 Accord?
Sounds like fun...
And from looking at that list the G37S is on there with a time of 3:17:5 BUT i do not see any acura TL's CL's or ANY acura's on there..

Jan 8, 2010 | 01:39 PM

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speechless

Jan 8, 2010 | 02:09 PM

#68

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Originally Posted by 2K2SilverTL-S

And for 370Z fanboys...this is pretty disturbing....

Caption should read: "Factory Mods Epic Fail!"

Jan 8, 2010 | 02:13 PM

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This thread was doomed from the start. I definitely did not expect the Camaro SS to do that well though... Wow

Jan 8, 2010 | 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JS + MS3

speechless

Its best that way cuz u never have anything worthwhile to say!

Jan 8, 2010 | 03:44 PM

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stoned

Jan 8, 2010 | 04:05 PM

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Track to me means a road course: Sebring, VIR, Putnam, etc . . .

Jan 8, 2010 | 05:07 PM

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Track to me means a road course: Sebring, VIR, Putnam, etc . . .

Yeah you have a car that is worthwile to take to the track , alot of other people think there TL or CL is a race car.. A viper you NEED to take to the track... I know alot of people track there cars but not on a ACURA furom , The NSX was the only worthwile car to take to the track now Acura does not make anything worthy of a track day!

Jan 8, 2010 | 05:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StonedCL

SO v6acord2k5 u track a 2005 V6 Accord?
Sounds like fun...
And from looking at that list the G37S is on there with a time of 3:17:5 BUT i do not see any acura TL's CL's or ANY acura's on there..

I'm pretty sure his Accord would poop all over your TSX in a race.