Is BMW Targeting Acura
#81
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Originally Posted by tommyguy2
base model? you mean 325's? nowhere near that time. and that is a "mag time" for the 330. how would you like to compare your overpriced 14.5(stick shift) to an automatic lexus's 13.6 on clublexus.com? or an '05 G35 coupe mt running 13.9(6mt.net)?
While I will agree with the assertion that BMW tends to be "overpriced", I can also state (from experience) that the 330i is more rewarding to drive than the IS350 and G35S (and I am a Nissan guy---note sig).
But make no mistake, BMW is NOT feeling ANY substantive pressure from Lexus. BMW has a tremendous following that shows NO signs of ebbing.
Pointing to Infiniti's successful G35 sales (as well as Acura TL sales) is only part of picture. IMHO, their success has more to do with people ugrading from downmarket models (i.e.: Maxima, Accord, Altima, Camry, etc,...) rather than any exodous from BMW showrooms.
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#82
Originally Posted by cob3683
Considering an automatic 325i has 91hp less than a IS350 and 83hp less than a G35, I would say it does a pretty good job of doing the 1/4 in 14.9 (most owner drag-slips). As far as the 330i goes, I have seen it as low as 14.2 and as high as 14.5 and that is impressive when figuring the hp differences. The #'s will be really interesting this fall when the 335 comes out.
#83
Originally Posted by F23A4
FastAcura was not too far off the mark. A 6MT 325i did post a 14.7 sec ET in C/D. LINK.
Originally Posted by F23A4
While I will agree with the assertion that BMW tends to be "overpriced", I can also state (from experience) that the 330i is more rewarding to drive than the IS350 and G35S (and I am a Nissan guy---note sig).
Originally Posted by F23A4
But make no mistake, BMW is NOT feeling ANY substantive pressure from Lexus. BMW has a tremendous following that shows NO signs of ebbing.
Originally Posted by F23A4
Pointing to Infiniti's successful G35 sales (as well as Acura TL sales) is only part of picture. IMHO, their success has more to do with people ugrading from downmarket models (i.e.: Maxima, Accord, Altima, Camry, etc,...) rather than any exodous from BMW showrooms. ![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
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1. it had an unattractive design(this has now been fixed).
2. I-drive complexity, drove away many customers.
now many people ended up owning 7 series, cars, but you have to look at the discounts and great lease deals that bmw gave in order to achieve those sales numbers. their profit has been hurt by the bengalization of their designs here in north america, make no mistake about it. The 7 series got a new backend, the 3 series, was spared the bastardization, the new 3 series coupe isn't taking any risks in the style department, and the car is getting a substacial power boost. all responses to increased competition.
Last edited by tommyguy2; 06-03-2006 at 02:16 PM.
#84
Burn some dust here
Originally Posted by tommyguy2
now this is a shame when you consider the price difference between both cars, when equally equiped.
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Now I will grant the $8000ish price difference between the G35 and the other two. The two things that work against the G (in my opinion) is that it has the worst interior of the group and is the oldest design. It will be interesting to see if Infiniti can price this new model under the IS and 3.
Last edited by cob3683; 06-03-2006 at 02:34 PM.
#85
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I dont feel like reading all of the lame posts by tommy2.
But here. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...highlight=14.7
14.7 Stock 325i 6-speed on 18s
Timeslip on page 2
Sorry but i would still pick a slower manual car that handles better than a auto lexus.
To each their own of course.
He reminds me of Sicklex actually. IP check anyone?
But here. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...highlight=14.7
14.7 Stock 325i 6-speed on 18s
Timeslip on page 2
Sorry but i would still pick a slower manual car that handles better than a auto lexus.
To each their own of course.
He reminds me of Sicklex actually. IP check anyone?
Last edited by Crazy Bimmer; 06-03-2006 at 04:48 PM.
#87
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
He reminds me of Sicklex actually. IP check anyone?
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Originally Posted by F23A4
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Originally Posted by jmbnova
serious bullshit... When was this add released?
Just shows they are feeling the pressure....
Just shows they are feeling the pressure....
feeling the pressure from who? That add is great and is exactly one of the things they should be pointing out
#90
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
I dont feel like reading all of the lame posts by tommy2.
He reminds me of Sicklex actually. IP check anyone?
He reminds me of Sicklex actually. IP check anyone?
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The BMW is the more rewarding car to drive. Period. As far as the ad goes - well its pretty neat and like someone else said, it's showing off what they do best - RWD.
I'm sure Acura will start promoting SH-AWD heavily once its migrates to the TL and TSX and so forth. Maybe something like 4 legged creatures (cheetah?) are faster than 2 legged ones (ducks?) - arrghhh, work with me here!
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Originally Posted by vishnus11
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The BMW is the more rewarding car to drive. Period. As far as the ad goes - well its pretty neat and like someone else said, it's showing off what they do best - RWD.
I'm sure Acura will start promoting SH-AWD heavily once its migrates to the TL and TSX and so forth. Maybe something like 4 legged creatures (cheetah?) are faster than 2 legged ones (ducks?) - arrghhh, work with me here!
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