Is BMW Targeting Acura
06-01-2006, 02:23 PM
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I also dont think thats real. I have rarely see BMW go after somthing, let alone somthing so lame. Still funny as shit though.
Also look at cadlliac, they got rid of FWD completely and have been doing better than ever.
FWD is not needed in this segment. IMO
Also look at cadlliac, they got rid of FWD completely and have been doing better than ever.
FWD is not needed in this segment. IMO
06-01-2006, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Wont matter since SH-AWD will be/is Acura's marketing tool.
I liked it when the folks over on vtec.net ripped on the rumors of the next nsx being shawd (and how it was a bad thing).
Subie has it's "awd, that's all I'll drive" deal...
Acura is moving sh-awd...
and that's fine...
But there are buyers out there that will only consider buying a "performance" vehicle if it's RWD...
Pontiac is moving toward all rwd...
Different strokes for different folks...
06-01-2006, 03:10 PM
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I find it funny that people here are actually getting upset over this. Is your life that pitiful that you have to get upset over an ad that BMW puts out?
Also I don’t think BMW needs to worry about Acura.
Also I don’t think BMW needs to worry about Acura.
06-01-2006, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Donte99TL
I find it funny that people here are actually getting upset over this. Is your life that pitiful that you have to get upset over an ad that BMW puts out?
Also I don’t think BMW needs to worry about Acura.
Also I don’t think BMW needs to worry about Acura.
06-01-2006, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Considering VW is renaming the Golf the Rabbit, thats probly exactly who their going after.
06-01-2006, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cob3683
CNTAH-AWD: Chuck Norris Totally Awesome Handling All Wheel Drive?"
06-02-2006, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedyV6
VW ad's that disparage buyers of other cars for shouting and overcompensating about their insecurites. Sometimes I get the idea that these companies lack anything positive to say about their own products or their just targeting mean-spirited people as prospective buyers.
As for the BMW ad, i love it and i agree with what most are saying, they arent targeting any make, they're just laying claim that RWD is the way. I dont really think they have to worry about any one at this point, have you seen their sales figures for the month of May just for the 3 series alone? It's mind boggling.
06-02-2006, 04:39 AM
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Seems BMW needs to watch the Speed Channel more. BMW's are getting there asses kicked by TSX's , RSX's and Mazda 6's...FWD seems to work fine in that series.
Manufacturer Points Speed GT Challenge
Mazda 22
Acura 20
Audi 11
BMW 11
Manufacturer Points Speed GT Challenge
Mazda 22
Acura 20
Audi 11
BMW 11
06-02-2006, 08:03 AM
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It took me a few moments to see what was wrong with the rabbit..I knew something was wrong but I was like..:wtf: Anyway, it's an ad don't read so much into it 
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Isn't SH-AWD limited to ~350hp? Plus RDX doesn't get full SH-AWD treatment so RL is still the only car with it. That's the rumor anyway..
.Isn't SH-AWD limited to ~350hp? Plus RDX doesn't get full SH-AWD treatment so RL is still the only car with it. That's the rumor anyway..
06-02-2006, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
I also dont think thats real. I have rarely see BMW go after somthing, let alone somthing so lame. Still funny as shit though.
Also look at cadlliac, they got rid of FWD completely and have been doing better than ever.
FWD is not needed in this segment. IMO
Also look at cadlliac, they got rid of FWD completely and have been doing better than ever.
FWD is not needed in this segment. IMO
The DTS is still fwd.
06-02-2006, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedyV6
The DTS is still fwd.
06-02-2006, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
And the DTS is still known as an old man car. Do they even sell much of those, i only seen one. 
06-02-2006, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Gotta admit though since cadlliac changed to RWD, their image has changed for the better.
Seems like that change coincided with their appearance on my personal radar.
06-02-2006, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Seems like that change coincided with their appearance on my personal radar. you'd figure Acura would eventually take the hint...i mean c'mon...it's like rosanne barr is sitting on their face yet they still can't taste the shit.
Maybe when (if) they do, they'll start appearing on more of people's radars.
06-02-2006, 02:25 PM
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a good ad IMHO
06-02-2006, 03:31 PM
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06-02-2006, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tommyguy2
BMW is really feeling the pressure right now. They car loosing buisness in the sport sedan and sport coupe segment due to the G35 coupe and the IS350 running away with the market. Partly due to bad designs, and underpowered vehicles. Its a sign of desperation, and misdirection to target the luxury fwd cars. IMHO, they should save the money and redesign all the 3, 5, 7 and 6 series backend.
06-02-2006, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tommyguy2
BMW is really feeling the pressure right now. They are loosing buisness in the sport sedan and sport coupe segment due to the G35 coupe and the IS350 running away with the market. Blame bad designs, and underpowered vehicles. Its a sign of desperation, and misdirection to target the luxury fwd cars. IMHO, they should save the money and redesign all the 3, 5, 7 and 6 series backend.
06-02-2006, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
....and back on Earth, 'BMW sales hit record in 2005, expects another one in 2006'
06-02-2006, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tommyguy2
BMW is really feeling the pressure right now. They are loosing buisness in the sport sedan and sport coupe segment due to the G35 coupe and the IS350 running away with the market. Blame bad designs, and underpowered vehicles. Its a sign of desperation, and misdirection to target the luxury fwd cars. IMHO, they should save the money and redesign all the 3, 5, 7 and 6 series backend.
06-03-2006, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
....and back on Earth, 'BMW sales hit record in 2005, expects another one in 2006'
Even though I do not like the new designs as much as the older ones, I doubt they are "feeling the pressure."The base model 3 series runs a 14.5 in the 1/4 mile, I wouldn't call that "underpowered"
06-03-2006, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tommyguy2
BMW is really feeling the pressure right now. They are loosing buisness in the sport sedan and sport coupe segment due to the G35 coupe and the IS350 running away with the market. Blame bad designs, and underpowered vehicles. Its a sign of desperation, and misdirection to target the luxury fwd cars. IMHO, they should save the money and redesign all the 3, 5, 7 and 6 series backend.
this is from their May 2006 sales report
Total 3 Series: 10,865
Year to date: 49,795
vs.
For example Acura:
Total Car Sales: 12,677
Year to date: 60,453
I dont think they really have anything to worry about just based on this comparison they're selling 49,000+ 3 series to date!!! that's a lot of 3 series
06-03-2006, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by FastAcura
The base model 3 series runs a 14.5 in the 1/4 mile, I wouldn't call that "underpowered"
06-03-2006, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by duan@vip-culture.com
I dont think they really have anything to worry about just based on this comparison they're selling 49,000+ 3 series to date!!! that's a lot of 3 series
06-03-2006, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FastAcura
The base model 3 series runs a 14.5 in the 1/4 mile, I wouldn't call that "underpowered"
06-03-2006, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by tommyguy2
oh, and of course people are going to buy those 325's as status symbols.
As for the 1.9% financing i wasnt aware of that...typically BMW doesnt have a need to subsidize their cars.
06-03-2006, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedyV6
I think it's more of a dig at VW's "German engineered" cars. I feel bad for all the Mini owners who will feel that they are being shunned by the parent company.
BTW is anyone slightly put off by the negative tone of some of the ad's for BMW's and VW's lately?I'm not referring to this ad but there's the BMW ad that mocks all the corporate conformists who spout platitudes like "you presented some challenging ideas" with uncomfortable closeups of ugly people and the VW ad's that disparage buyers of other cars for shouting and overcompensating about their insecurites. Sometimes I get the idea that these companies lack anything positive to say about their own products or their just targeting mean-spirited people as prospective buyers.
BTW is anyone slightly put off by the negative tone of some of the ad's for BMW's and VW's lately?
I'm not referring to this ad but there's the BMW ad that mocks all the corporate conformists who spout platitudes like "you presented some challenging ideas" with uncomfortable closeups of ugly people and the VW ad's that disparage buyers of other cars for shouting and overcompensating about their insecurites. Sometimes I get the idea that these companies lack anything positive to say about their own products or their just targeting mean-spirited people as prospective buyers.
06-03-2006, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Water-S
VW GTI "Time to unpimp your auto" Commerical is still the best car commerical to date. i still watch that on line and die laughing.
06-03-2006, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by tommyguy2
news flash: the 330 now needs a twin turbo, to catch up with to an automatic lexus. that 3.0liter at 14.5 is maxed out.
06-03-2006, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 1killercls
and this has what to do with BMW sales?
06-03-2006, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedyV6
This thread wasn't about BMW sales per se. It was about a creative BMW ad. Water weighed in with his opinion on another creative car ad. Can't you cut him some slack?
06-03-2006, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tommyguy2
base model? you mean 325's? nowhere near that time. and that is a "mag time" for the 330. how would you like to compare your overpriced 14.5(stick shift) to an automatic lexus's 13.6 on clublexus.com? or an '05 G35 coupe mt running 13.9(6mt.net)?