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http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71863

RS4 ftw! Come on BMW fanboys, defend your car!

mrsteve

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Meh... wait till Car & Driver starts throwing it into comparisons. It'll kill everything it comes across

Chief F1 Fan

^^^ Always true dat!

AMGala

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Sometimes I wonder if BMW owns Car and Driver

MSO4gtt

How dare they! Cars that handle well and are fun to drive win comparos! Whodathunkit?

BMWs win more than lose in most magazines. However I can recall several instances where BMWs have lost in C&D (M3 vs S4, 7 series vs anything, 5 series vs Infiniti M, M Coupe vs Cayman S, etc.)

CGTSX2004

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Wow...what is it about developing a good manual gearbox that seems to elude everyone but Porsche and Honda? It seems like a lot of the criticism lately from the automotive press about these higher performance cars centers around how poorly the manual transmissions are executed.

And quite honestly, I'm not the least bit surprised by this result. BMW should leave out some of the widgets and offer a more uncomplicated purist version of the M3. The only thing that should be included are the active damper. Everything else, including that ridiculous iDrive system, should be left off.

Crazy Bimmer

^ AGREED. But the M3 is a better track car according to the article and isnt that what enthusiasts want?

Although i dont think Idrive is that bad after using it for a bit. Even with shortcut buttons i still end up wanting to use the Idrive instead.

My BMW fanboi comment is "What is Autoexpress Magazine, bet they did this to get attention"

srika

This is what I was getting at in the other thread where I said the regular 3-series dash doesn't look "right" in the M3...

F23A4

I am already partial to the RS4 but, I would lay odds that the M3 will track better....like most BMWs seem to.

Chief F1 Fan

I saw an RS4 at Watkins Glen the other day after the Indycar race. The hotness!

CGTSX2004

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But I think enthusiasts are balking at having to cough up money for a bunch of options they really do not want in a car. I think that if I were to plunk down money for a car like the new M3, knowing full well that I was buying a car purely for my weekend pleasure driving, I would not want all of the electronic widgets and would instead want the purist, hard-edge driving experience that the magazines seem to be saying the new m3 lacks.

But maybe that's just me...

cob3683

I don't know what group of people is worse: BMW fanboys or Japanese fanboys?

Trackruner228

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BMW doesnt always win but granted they do a lot.

S4 beat the M3
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...b-c32-amg.html

RS6 beats the M5
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...b-e55-amg.html

A8 and S550 beat out 750i
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...bmw-750li.html

I know you guys could all show me a million more articles that BMW won but the point is caranddriver isnt as biased as people think. When they like a car more then BMW they are fair and rate those cars better. So in the past Audi has beaten BMW I so know reason why they cant again.

I really like where Audi is going with the new models they are very nice. I really dont understand why Audi doesnt sell as much as other luxury car companys. I think Audi has great cars. The new A6 is I think it again comes down to image status which Audi doesnt really have. If it wasnt for that I think Audi would sell a lot more cars.

shrykhar

I was going to say in the M3 brochure thread, that's one hell of a circle-jerk going on ... and crapping on anyone who dares raise doubts about the M3's supposed greatness.

brizey

VW cooties. And much much much weaker advertising on TV. BMW and Mercedes are all over the tube. I cannot remember the last Audi commercial I saw.

Yumcha

Isn't the RS4 against the M3 kinda unfair...? I would be more inclined to pit the S4 against the M3...?

CGTSX2004

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Not really, considering they are more closely matched now than ever.

Loseit

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S4 is like the 300C an the RS4 is the 300C- SRT8.

sol_da_man

^except a million times greater.