Best AWD system overall?
04-01-2009, 01:10 AM
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ZF has been working with BMW for 50+ years and helped produced the first production 6sp Auto which was used in the 7 series. While Ricardo has been with Audi for some time and also helps co-produce their transmissions in the Le-mans series which is know for needing reliable and demanding drivetrains (which Acura found out last week).
I can appreciate how Honda develops their own drivetrains but other manufacturers can also do the same. When these other manufacturers source out their AWD systems etc it helps reduce development effort and resources can be placed elsewhere and it drastically improves the time in bringing a new product to the marketplace.
Im not sure how long it took Honda to develop SH-AWD but its only taken a few years for the competition to already start to better it. With the competition already having 6, 7sp Autos, DSG etc etc and Honda still over a decade behind in even developing a 6sp Auto, it makes you wonder if they should start sourcing out in order to keep up with the industry.
04-01-2009, 03:03 AM
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the video's biased? perhaps... but I don't think it was fixed or anything... I still think Subaru's definitely one of the best (like my original post), because it's ALL they do. besides... that test was based on "ice condition"... the OP wants to know more about "performance" like driving through the twisties... 
04-01-2009, 05:17 PM
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I would like to know how much honda actually saves by doing this.
ZF has been working with BMW for 50+ years and helped produced the first production 6sp Auto which was used in the 7 series. While Ricardo has been with Audi for some time and also helps co-produce their transmissions in the Le-mans series which is know for needing reliable and demanding drivetrains (which Acura found out last week).
I can appreciate how Honda develops their own drivetrains but other manufacturers can also do the same. When these other manufacturers source out their AWD systems etc it helps reduce development effort and resources can be placed elsewhere and it drastically improves the time in bringing a new product to the marketplace.
Im not sure how long it took Honda to develop SH-AWD but its only taken a few years for the competition to already start to better it. With the competition already having 6, 7sp Autos, DSG etc etc and Honda still over a decade behind in even developing a 6sp Auto, it makes you wonder if they should start sourcing out in order to keep up with the industry.
ZF has been working with BMW for 50+ years and helped produced the first production 6sp Auto which was used in the 7 series. While Ricardo has been with Audi for some time and also helps co-produce their transmissions in the Le-mans series which is know for needing reliable and demanding drivetrains (which Acura found out last week).
I can appreciate how Honda develops their own drivetrains but other manufacturers can also do the same. When these other manufacturers source out their AWD systems etc it helps reduce development effort and resources can be placed elsewhere and it drastically improves the time in bringing a new product to the marketplace.
Im not sure how long it took Honda to develop SH-AWD but its only taken a few years for the competition to already start to better it. With the competition already having 6, 7sp Autos, DSG etc etc and Honda still over a decade behind in even developing a 6sp Auto, it makes you wonder if they should start sourcing out in order to keep up with the industry.
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