Bad accident on track involving a Vette and an 18 year old
06-26-2010, 07:47 AM
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Don't put words in my mouth!
I said again: " A Honda Civic will do 108mph eventually. Is that too much car too? "
What's the difference in going 108mph in a Civic vs a Vette, other than the Vette will outhandle and outstop the Civic and it will hold up better in a crash, making it the safer car at that speed.
I said again: " A Honda Civic will do 108mph eventually. Is that too much car too? "
What's the difference in going 108mph in a Civic vs a Vette, other than the Vette will outhandle and outstop the Civic and it will hold up better in a crash, making it the safer car at that speed.
Same answer as the other who compared situations involving a Prius and a Corvette. If you can't see the difference, I can't do anything for you.
Psssst, here's an hint for you; the Civic won't be able to reach the same same kind of speed in the same context. And the effect of speed is not linear but exponential.... so will be the catastrophic crash.... so is the handicap for the kid unfortunately.
Sorry you all unfortunate challengers, I won't be able to hold your hand to turn in circles for a while
.... this is a vacation week, campground here I come.
06-26-2010, 08:30 AM
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To answer my question, so obviously you are.
Same answer as the other who compared situations involving a Prius and a Corvette. If you can't see the difference, I can't do anything for you.
Psssst, here's an hint for you; the Civic won't be able to reach the same same kind of speed in the same context. And the effect of speed is not linear but exponential.... so will be the catastrophic crash.... so is the handicap for the kid unfortunately.
Sorry you all unfortunate challengers, I won't be able to hold your hand to turn in circles for a while .... this is a vacation week, campground here I come.
Same answer as the other who compared situations involving a Prius and a Corvette. If you can't see the difference, I can't do anything for you.
Psssst, here's an hint for you; the Civic won't be able to reach the same same kind of speed in the same context. And the effect of speed is not linear but exponential.... so will be the catastrophic crash.... so is the handicap for the kid unfortunately.
Sorry you all unfortunate challengers, I won't be able to hold your hand to turn in circles for a while
.... this is a vacation week, campground here I come.One question, do you wear a helmet and kneepads everytime you leave your house?
06-26-2010, 11:20 AM
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06-26-2010, 11:48 AM
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This is the same thinking behind it. Both were on a private track, but at least the kid didn't hurt anybody else. Kids will be kids and I have sympathy for the injured.
Dad is the big fat moron.
There is no link between this situation and the long and progressive learning of TALENTED athletes; they just don't get thrown artificially at that level by money and poor judgment but over years, they get gradually more powerful toys UNDER MONITORING. Totally different, whatever some retards here may think.
Dad is the big fat moron.
There is no link between this situation and the long and progressive learning of TALENTED athletes; they just don't get thrown artificially at that level by money and poor judgment but over years, they get gradually more powerful toys UNDER MONITORING. Totally different, whatever some retards here may think.
06-26-2010, 11:52 AM
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if it was a 50 year old who couldn't control the car and crashed...what would we be saying.
This was a drag strip.....put the foot on the gas and go straight. There are MANY 16 year olds, etc out there racing 9 sec+ cars......hell some of those junior dragsters run faster then a vette.
06-26-2010, 11:53 AM
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Coulda, shoulda, woulda.... you have zero clue of that. My extreme example jsut shows that your argument doesn't hold water and that there is a limit.
So you really think that his destroyed Corvette was covered by insurance on a racetrack? That's what I was talking about. Get real.
So obvious.
Unfortunately good judgment was an option and not that many bipeds were ordered with it as we can see here.
So you really think that his destroyed Corvette was covered by insurance on a racetrack? That's what I was talking about. Get real.
So obvious.
Unfortunately good judgment was an option and not that many bipeds were ordered with it as we can see here.
06-26-2010, 02:42 PM
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There is no link between this situation and the long and progressive learning of TALENTED athletes; they just don't get thrown artificially at that level by money and poor judgment but over years, they get gradually more powerful toys UNDER MONITORING. Totally different, whatever some retards here may think.
I jumped from a 1999 TL, to my first manual transmission car that was capable of running an 11.6 at the ripe old age of 19. I never forgot to hit the brakes at the end of the track.
06-26-2010, 06:15 PM
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06-26-2010, 06:18 PM
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Wait so you are saying that anyone here that has never drag raced before couldn't handle a 12.5 second car? I could see your issue if it was a car that could run in the 10's.
I jumped from a 1999 TL, to my first manual transmission car that was capable of running an 11.6 at the ripe old age of 19. I never forgot to hit the brakes at the end of the track.
I jumped from a 1999 TL, to my first manual transmission car that was capable of running an 11.6 at the ripe old age of 19. I never forgot to hit the brakes at the end of the track.
06-26-2010, 07:05 PM
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Things happen quicker, you re-learn your perception for speed and in an 11 second and quicker car you start paying special detail to the road crowns, paint lines, dust on the road, etc. You eventually get used to a 12 second car to where it feels like the TL after a while.
But really, it takes a couple days, a week at most. I got completely used to the 11 second feeling. The 10 second push is something that still surprises me but it's probably because I only feel it a few times a year. When I first bought the TL, I literally could not feel it accelerate when I floored it. I could watch the tach climbing but I was so numb from the GN there was no feeling of speed. After a week or so I get used to the TL again and it starts feeling decently quick.
06-26-2010, 11:03 PM
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Who says any of us could put down 12's I am just saying we would be able to handle driving a car capable of it down the track without wrecking especially if we already owned the car for two years.
06-27-2010, 10:18 AM
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Sad. I feel sorry for the kid and his family.
I agree with a lot of the people here that say that the parents are really not to blame. I know if I were the parent I would have felt responsible and would probably beat the shit out of myself for the rest of my life. I am sure his parents feel that way too.
For those that say that he was too young, I do not agree. If he was driving for a while and was a good driver, then why not. His family supported him. I know a lot of people in their 20's, 30's and 40's that have been in horrible car accidents. They are called accidents for a reason. Some are terrible. Hell, we have members here that have parents that probably supported them driving and racing on tracks at that age.
I think the insurance companies are doing exactly what insurance companies do. I hope the parents win the fight. If his doctors think he can improve, then I think the insurance companies need to pay up.
I agree with a lot of the people here that say that the parents are really not to blame. I know if I were the parent I would have felt responsible and would probably beat the shit out of myself for the rest of my life. I am sure his parents feel that way too.
For those that say that he was too young, I do not agree. If he was driving for a while and was a good driver, then why not. His family supported him. I know a lot of people in their 20's, 30's and 40's that have been in horrible car accidents. They are called accidents for a reason. Some are terrible. Hell, we have members here that have parents that probably supported them driving and racing on tracks at that age.
I think the insurance companies are doing exactly what insurance companies do. I hope the parents win the fight. If his doctors think he can improve, then I think the insurance companies need to pay up.
06-27-2010, 08:29 PM
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