PeterY

Hey guys,


I'm looking into picking up a B5 00-02 audi S4 to replace the saab. Anyone have any experience driving the s4, esp the tip? It looks like i might have to get that instead of the 6 speed but we will see. How do both those transmissions compare to the cl-s. I think the s4-6 will take both cl-s, but not sure if the tip s4 will take a cl-s6. Any ideas? Also if anyone has ever driven a modded tip s4, how do they react to the power?


Thanks

Peter

brian6speed

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Why don't you wanna get the 6 speed?

blader

GET THE 6 SPEED.. my friend has an S4 with just a chip, 6spd, ran a 12.9. dynoed 320hp 388tq. it will most certainly take both CLs.

NiteQwill

If you're looking for the early S4's (00-01), they had major problems with turbo failures, my buddy's 2000 S4 has already replaced 4 (2 each time) because of the issue.

The S4 is a beast off the line; with a chip alone, like blader said, it's not a beast anymore, it's a two-headed turbo monster that will get you past the 1/4 in 13 seconds.

Go for the 6MT, you won't regret it.

mrsteve

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Audi's have reliability issues for sure, especially the turbo motors. Also beware, chiping an Audi to increase power will void your warranty for sure and burning up those turbos is an expensive replacement.

ferizzo

The turbo issues in the early models was due to shitty hoses on them. Change the oil lines or get a 2002+ and you should be fine. Just like any other car maintenance is important! Although having some money on the side for maintenance is not a bad idea (bigger turbos when the stockers go!)

jimcol711

ive got an A6 with the S4 drivetrain. absolutely LOVE the setup. i have a tip (with the performance recode of the tranny) and its a phenomenal car. the turbo failure is far over exageratted. but it is true that early S4 (2000 and early 2001) had issues with the oil lines that did result in more than normal failures....midway through modelyear 2001, audi revised the setup for both the S4 and the A6 with satisfactory oil lines and throttle body boot.

my A6 is not chipped yet but as it stands now, its easily on par with a CL-S. once i get it chipped, even the A6 (which weighs about 250 lbs more than the S4 IIRC) will be an absolute beast. high 13s, here i come....

jimcol711

to replace both turbos out of warranty will run you about 5,000 dollars. hense the reason ive yet to pull the trigger. however, there are ways to almost guarantee that you can get away with having them replaced under warranty even if you were chipped when they fail. but like i said, its over exageratted, there are MANY people at audiworld.com who have had chipped A6 and S4 for 30k miles PLUS and never once had a problem with the tiptronic tranny or turbos.

Crazy Bimmer

A chipped tipronic 2.7t A6 can hit high 13s? Link?

jimcol711

with the right weaether conditions, absolutely, its been done many times

mrsteve

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^ Remember... high 13s in an AWD car isn't THAT spectacular considering its a TT V6. The car does weigh as much as a boat but I doubt the trap speed would break 100.

jimcol711

the A6 barely weighs 200 more lbs than the CL-S. so weight is hardly even a factor. and with the chip we are talking about 318 hp and 385 ft. lbs. of torque at the crank. thats a hell of alot of power and even given the fact that the A6 weighs about 3700-3800 lbs, that amount of torque is more than enough to push her into the 13's and slightly over a 100 mph trap speed. assuming that it isnt 90 degrees and humid of course. i can attest to the fact that humidity and heat have quite an effect on the twin turbos. for example, today its about 65 in milwaukee and my car felt like a rocket today compared to last week when it was 90+ and humid.

ive seen timeslips of S4's that, with the same chip, run mid 13's....with the TIP tranny or the 6 speed. high 13's are practically guaranteed for the A6 2.7t with the chip.

Crazy Bimmer

why did i buy a 1.8t

mrsteve

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A 6MT CL-S with I/H/E/Pulleys/Tires would make about the same power, not torque, but whp and be faster than high 13s (probably at least 13.7 and would trap over 100 mph). I'm not trying to turn this into an A6 vs CL-S debate... but considering the Audi is AWD and the ability to go WOT right off the launch plus so much more torque vs the way you need to baby the CL-S off the line.... high 13s from a car with 315 hp and 385 ft lbs That extra 200 lbs must make a big difference.