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Old 03-17-2006 | 02:10 PM
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Audi TT accident, now with a video!

Im sure some of you guys heard about that black TT that was slammed into a semi and then into a wall.

Well heres the vid http://us.video.netscape.com/video.i...pmmsid=1479340





http://www.newsday.com/news/local/lo...age-bigpix2005

Hes alive

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Old 03-17-2006 | 02:15 PM
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He cheated death


BTW how does an 18 wheeler lose control like that?


Anyone notice his aftermarket wheels? He was a car enthusiast


Good for him
Old 03-17-2006 | 02:35 PM
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Holy shit.

Next car: Audi TT
Old 03-17-2006 | 02:36 PM
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That's almost as bad as the STi back in 04... just news video, not as cool as the TT vid.

http://www.bongmonster.com/images/tf...2004-28-04.wmv
Old 03-17-2006 | 02:37 PM
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holy shit that was scary

<----brings back bad memories
Old 03-17-2006 | 02:38 PM
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Sweet - i was considering buying my uncles 3.2TT DSG roadster from him soon - this gives me one more reason!

Good to hear that the guy is alive.
Old 03-17-2006 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Im sure some of you guys heard about that black TT that was slammed into a semi and then into a wall.

Hes alive

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They did an interview of the guy on Good Morning America this morning. Guy's an Audi car sales manager in NYC. Guess that'll be GREAT ADVERTISING for the car. The guy is super lucky. He should be toast.

Audi for safety engineering. Otherwise, there would be another little girl without a dad.
Old 03-17-2006 | 02:46 PM
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holy shit thats pretty crazy. looking at the wreck its hard to imagine how he still fit in the car without being dismembered.
Old 03-17-2006 | 02:57 PM
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It's a LOT of luck he survived, Audi safety had little to do with it cause the car is completely mangled.
Old 03-17-2006 | 02:58 PM
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saw that.. f'in insane!!!!!
Old 03-17-2006 | 03:00 PM
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Old 03-17-2006 | 03:03 PM
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Yeah I saw that on the news the other day, he just has a few scratches..amazing..Makes you think ...
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Old 03-17-2006 | 07:17 PM
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Iif he had been in a higher up vehicle like an SUV he would've been toast. He was saved because his car went under the truck.
Old 03-17-2006 | 07:19 PM
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i hate these fucking hotlinks. there's 2 in my post
Old 03-17-2006 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by UnsanePyro
Holy shit.

Next car: Audi TT
Yeah...


Edit: The car looked like the one I saw on my way home
http://www.nj.com/newslogs/timesextr...s/2006_03.html
Old 03-17-2006 | 07:52 PM
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i hate these fucking hotlinks. there's 2 in my post
That's weird - they don't seem to go anywhere either.
Old 03-17-2006 | 08:05 PM
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I just saw this on the news an hour ago. that's one lucky dude.
Old 03-17-2006 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by UnsanePyro
Holy shit.

Next car: Audi TT

Holy Shit.

Next car, one that can accelerate by a goddamn bus full of people- Memory: audi tt, got runover by a bus.
Old 03-17-2006 | 09:06 PM
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wow! amazing he survived!!
Old 03-17-2006 | 09:07 PM
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All I can say is wow...just wow.
Old 03-17-2006 | 09:22 PM
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yeah saw that today. The semi had bald tires and other violations.
Old 03-17-2006 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
Edit: The car looked like the one I saw on my way home
http://www.nj.com/newslogs/timesextr...s/2006_03.html
Is it just me or are there always accidents around that area? Right near the malls and the business parks?

Originally Posted by HONgDA
yeah saw that today. The semi had bald tires and other violations.
If I remember correctly it was 16,000lbs over weight
Old 03-18-2006 | 05:45 AM
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Is it just me or are there always accidents around that area? Right near the malls and the business parks?
The stretch from 95 to Scudders Mill has to be the worst in Mercer.

The car looked almost as bad as the Audi....
Old 03-18-2006 | 01:00 PM
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lucky guido
what a fawking mess !
Old 03-18-2006 | 01:15 PM
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I wouldn't credit the Audi, but rather luck. He is one lucky man to first be alive and secondly with minor injuries. That was a very ugly crash.
Old 03-18-2006 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximized
I wouldn't credit the Audi, but rather luck. He is one lucky man to first be alive and secondly with minor injuries. That was a very ugly crash.
Agree 100%. While the TT is a pretty safe car, the fact the driver survived was more about luck and the mechanics of crash itself. He got lucky being in a car that was able to go somewhat under the truck and the angle of the hit from the bus helped save his life.
Old 03-18-2006 | 04:53 PM
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Welllll, if the Audi had been a less substiantial car, like a Kia Rio or something, the structure may not have held up as well. Recall that European cars are designed to be Autobahn-worthy, so they don't just crumple up like tin cans. Give the Germans SOME engineering credit.

I think I'd be RIGHT back at the TT store when I left the hospital. UPGRADE time! Get the latest model.

Same thing happened when a teenager t-boned my '98 Expedition at 40mph, and all I felt was a moderate bump. I *almost* decided to drive my 00 Altima that day -phew! From that moment, the Expedition became the SUV of choice at the Fast-TL houseold. We're on our 3rd one now. First the '98, then a '99. now an '03.
Instant brand loyalty from saving my bacon!
Old 03-19-2006 | 08:31 AM
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Both positions (car safety engineering/accident dynamics vs "luck") will probably be hypothesized and debated for years to come but, pretty amazing event with a perplexing yet VERY fortunate ending.

I seem to recall a another VERY bad accident on a Pennsylvania highway where a Subaru WRX was pretty much compacted into a cube between two Semis(?) but the driver somehow survived with relatively minor injuries.
Old 03-19-2006 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Both positions (car safety engineering/accident dynamics vs "luck") will probably be hypothesized and debated for years to come but, pretty amazing event with a perplexing yet VERY fortunate ending.

I seem to recall a another VERY bad accident on a Pennsylvania highway where a Subaru WRX was pretty much compacted into a cube between two Semis(?) but the driver somehow survived with relatively minor injuries.
It's pure luck. No car is engineered to have an impact in the front and real simultaneously by two large commercial vehicles.
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Not every scenario can be anticipated during engineering. The car was engineered to have a sturdy structure, due to probable autobahn high-speed use. That only helped in this instance. Of course there was a component of luck as well, but you are dismissing the car as if it were constructed the same as a Dodge Neon.

Case in point, the new Chinese SUV. What if the Audi driver were in this tin can instead? I don't think luck would've mattered:
http://priuschat.com/New-Chinese-SUV...gs-t11585.html

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Old 03-19-2006 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fast-tl
Not every scenario can be anticipated during engineering. The car was engineered to have a sturdy structure, due to probable autobahn high-speed use. That only helped in this instance. Of course there was a component of luck as well, but you are dismissing the car as if it were constructed the same as a Dodge Neon.
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All modern cars have sturdy structures. I don't think that the make of the car mattered in this situation. It's one of those crashes that defies the odds.
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Not true: aside from the link I *just* posted about the *new* Chinese SUV, there's this:

IIHS Rates Fusion Poor in Side Test
Sedan scores Marginal and Acceptable in rear and front testing
http://www.autobytel.com/content/sha...le_id_int/1191

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Had he been in a Kia Spectra or Ford Fusion or other car with poor crash test history, he would've fared worse. To think otherwise assumes that all cars are equally safe which is flat wrong.

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Originally Posted by fast-tl
Not true: aside from the link I *just* posted about the *new* Chinese SUV, there's this:

IIHS Rates Fusion Poor in Side Test
Sedan scores Marginal and Acceptable in rear and front testing
http://www.autobytel.com/content/sha...le_id_int/1191
That Fusion didn't have the side curtain airbag option. Most if not all cars without side curtain score poor.
Old 03-19-2006 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fast-tl
Not true: aside from the link I *just* posted about the *new* Chinese SUV, there's this:

IIHS Rates Fusion Poor in Side Test
Sedan scores Marginal and Acceptable in rear and front testing
http://www.autobytel.com/content/sha...le_id_int/1191
That is a China market car, which doesn't meet US safety standards, so that's irrelevant if you live in the US.

Again, look at the vehicle in the video. The passenger safety cell is breached and it's pure luck that this guy survived, especially with the injuries that he sustained.

FYI...The Ford 500 has a better crash rating than an A6. IMHO crash testing doesn't matter in this type of crash, since vehicles aren't tested/engineered for 2 collisions by heavy commercial vehicles at highway speeds.
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As for the China market vehicle, they are planning to sell vehicles in the U.S., but the only reason I mentioned it was to counter the false statement that "all modern cars have sturdy structures." That's simply untrue.

I agree that cars aren't engineered for this type of crash; what I'm repeating is if you start out with a better engineered vehicle, your chances are better. I don't see how anyone could argue with that. It's the case here. As for the Fusion, it was also mentioned that rear and frontal results weren't so hot, regardless of side airbags or not. I don't dispute that the guy was lucky as well.
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Originally Posted by fast-tl
As for the China market vehicle, they are planning to sell vehicles in the U.S., but the only reason I mentioned it was to counter the false statement that "all modern cars have sturdy structures." That's simply untrue.

I agree that cars aren't engineered for this type of crash; what I'm repeating is if you start out with a better engineered vehicle, your chances are better. I don't see how anyone could argue with that. It's the case here. As for the Fusion, it was also mentioned that rear and frontal results weren't so hot, regardless of side airbags or not. I don't dispute that the guy was lucky as well.
How is it untrue that all modern cars don't have sturdy structures? Ever driven a 10 year old car compared to a brand new one? Chassis technology has improved immenesly over the the years. Comparing a Chinese spec car is irrelevant. It won't pass US safety standards and will have to be re-engineered for this market.

How do you know that the TT is a better engineered car? Is it safer because it costs a lot? Again, the A6 scores worse than a Ford 500. The Audi has German engineering and costs double, but the Ford outperforms it. Another example is the Chevy Malibu's rating which equals the A3, Passat, and Jetta. There goes your arguement.

This crash was pure luck and nothing else. Again, look at the car and how it's safety structure was breached. This guy defied the odds, simple as that.
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OK. As I said earlier we'll have to agree to disagree. The Chinese vehicle, while not sold in the US *is* modern, just not sturdy. You said all modern cars. You didn't say all modern cars sold in the US. That's my proof. Here's a link to the last-generation Ford f-150, a large vehicle:

http://tinyurl.com/m2kxc
My mother-in-law owns one that is NOT 10 years old, but I'd like her to get rid of. I would not like to be driving that thing in a wreck. All I'm saying is that the IIHS causes lots of carmakers to make changes to designs that are not sturdy enough; if all modern cars already had sturdy structures there'd be no need for the IIHS or crash testing.

There *are* vehicles I wouldn't buy today because of their safety rating. I already posted about how I'm thankful I was in my Expedition rather than my Altima the day I was t-boned at 40mph. There is a difference between models.
Let me explain some things you may not know about your examples:
The Ford 500 is built on the same platform as the Volvo S80, another nameplate known for safety. The Chevy Malibu shares the same platform as the Saab 9-3, another nameplate for for safety. Wow, that backs UP my argument, rather that destroys it, since these European nameplates are all engineered for autobahn use.

Do your homework!!
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Originally Posted by fast-tl
OK. As I said earlier we'll have to agree to disagree. The Chinese vehicle, while not sold in the US *is* modern, just not sturdy. You said all modern cars. You didn't say all modern cars sold in the US. That's my proof. Here's a link to the last-generation Ford f-150, a large vehicle:

http://tinyurl.com/m2kxc
My mother-in-law owns one that is NOT 10 years old, but I'd like her to get rid of. I would not like to be driving that thing in a wreck. All I'm saying is that the IIHS causes lots of carmakers to make changes to designs that are not sturdy enough; if all modern cars already had sturdy structures there'd be no need for the IIHS or crash testing.

There *are* vehicles I wouldn't buy today because of their safety rating. I already posted about how I'm thankful I was in my Expedition rather than my Altima the day I was t-boned at 40mph. There is a difference between models.
Let me explain some things you may not know about your examples:
The Ford 500 is built on the same platform as the Volvo S80, another nameplate known for safety. The Chevy Malibu shares the same platform as the Saab 9-3, another nameplate for for safety. Wow, that backs UP my argument, rather that destroys it, since these European nameplates are all engineered for autobahn use.

Do your homework!!
Maybe I should have added more content to my post because you are arguing semantics. I live in the US, so I can care less about a Chinese car that doesn't meet our standards. Also, that F150 link you posted was a 5 year old car in a chassis designed 10 years ago. That's a late model vehicle, which I wouldn't classify as modern. The new one does very well: http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=192 Again, sematics and maybe I should have clarified my post.

You are correct. The Ford 500(modified S80) shares the same platform as the S80 and the Malibu(epsilon) shares the same platform with the Saab. Both are designed and engineered by GM and Ford respectively. Neither vehicles are designed for autobahn use. I've done my research and again if you look at the pictures it apparent that the suvivabilty of this crash was based on luck.

A caveat: The vast majority of accidents are caused by driver error. The best safety tool is you. Pay attention to what's happening around you and learn how to actually control your vehicle. Most people don't know how to control their vehicle in a panic situation.

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