Audi TT accident, now with a video!
#1
Audi TT accident, now with a video!
Im sure some of you guys heard about that black TT that was slammed into a semi and then into a wall.
Well heres the vid http://us.video.netscape.com/video.i...pmmsid=1479340
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/lo...age-bigpix2005
Hes alive
/Audifanboy
Well heres the vid http://us.video.netscape.com/video.i...pmmsid=1479340
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/lo...age-bigpix2005
Hes alive
/Audifanboy
#4
That's almost as bad as the STi back in 04... just news video, not as cool as the TT vid.
http://www.bongmonster.com/images/tf...2004-28-04.wmv
http://www.bongmonster.com/images/tf...2004-28-04.wmv
#7
Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Im sure some of you guys heard about that black TT that was slammed into a semi and then into a wall.
Hes alive
/Audifanboy
Hes alive
/Audifanboy
Audi for safety engineering. Otherwise, there would be another little girl without a dad.
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#17
Originally Posted by UnsanePyro
Holy shit.
Next car: Audi TT
Next car: Audi TT
Edit: The car looked like the one I saw on my way home
http://www.nj.com/newslogs/timesextr...s/2006_03.html
#24
Originally Posted by Whiskers
Edit: The car looked like the one I saw on my way home
http://www.nj.com/newslogs/timesextr...s/2006_03.html
http://www.nj.com/newslogs/timesextr...s/2006_03.html
Originally Posted by HONgDA
yeah saw that today. The semi had bald tires and other violations.
#25
Originally Posted by HQuakers
Is it just me or are there always accidents around that area? Right near the malls and the business parks?
The car looked almost as bad as the Audi....
#28
Originally Posted by Maximized
I wouldn't credit the Audi, but rather luck. He is one lucky man to first be alive and secondly with minor injuries. That was a very ugly crash.
#29
Welllll, if the Audi had been a less substiantial car, like a Kia Rio or something, the structure may not have held up as well. Recall that European cars are designed to be Autobahn-worthy, so they don't just crumple up like tin cans. Give the Germans SOME engineering credit.
I think I'd be RIGHT back at the TT store when I left the hospital. UPGRADE time! Get the latest model.
Same thing happened when a teenager t-boned my '98 Expedition at 40mph, and all I felt was a moderate bump. I *almost* decided to drive my 00 Altima that day -phew! From that moment, the Expedition became the SUV of choice at the Fast-TL houseold. We're on our 3rd one now. First the '98, then a '99. now an '03.
Instant brand loyalty from saving my bacon!
I think I'd be RIGHT back at the TT store when I left the hospital. UPGRADE time! Get the latest model.
Same thing happened when a teenager t-boned my '98 Expedition at 40mph, and all I felt was a moderate bump. I *almost* decided to drive my 00 Altima that day -phew! From that moment, the Expedition became the SUV of choice at the Fast-TL houseold. We're on our 3rd one now. First the '98, then a '99. now an '03.
Instant brand loyalty from saving my bacon!
#30
Both positions (car safety engineering/accident dynamics vs "luck") will probably be hypothesized and debated for years to come but, pretty amazing event with a perplexing yet VERY fortunate ending.
I seem to recall a another VERY bad accident on a Pennsylvania highway where a Subaru WRX was pretty much compacted into a cube between two Semis(?) but the driver somehow survived with relatively minor injuries.
I seem to recall a another VERY bad accident on a Pennsylvania highway where a Subaru WRX was pretty much compacted into a cube between two Semis(?) but the driver somehow survived with relatively minor injuries.
#31
Originally Posted by F23A4
Both positions (car safety engineering/accident dynamics vs "luck") will probably be hypothesized and debated for years to come but, pretty amazing event with a perplexing yet VERY fortunate ending.
I seem to recall a another VERY bad accident on a Pennsylvania highway where a Subaru WRX was pretty much compacted into a cube between two Semis(?) but the driver somehow survived with relatively minor injuries.
I seem to recall a another VERY bad accident on a Pennsylvania highway where a Subaru WRX was pretty much compacted into a cube between two Semis(?) but the driver somehow survived with relatively minor injuries.
#32
Not every scenario can be anticipated during engineering. The car was engineered to have a sturdy structure, due to probable autobahn high-speed use. That only helped in this instance. Of course there was a component of luck as well, but you are dismissing the car as if it were constructed the same as a Dodge Neon.
Case in point, the new Chinese SUV. What if the Audi driver were in this tin can instead? I don't think luck would've mattered:
http://priuschat.com/New-Chinese-SUV...gs-t11585.html
Case in point, the new Chinese SUV. What if the Audi driver were in this tin can instead? I don't think luck would've mattered:
http://priuschat.com/New-Chinese-SUV...gs-t11585.html
Last edited by fast-tl; 03-19-2006 at 03:27 PM.
#33
Originally Posted by fast-tl
Not every scenario can be anticipated during engineering. The car was engineered to have a sturdy structure, due to probable autobahn high-speed use. That only helped in this instance. Of course there was a component of luck as well, but you are dismissing the car as if it were constructed the same as a Dodge Neon.
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#34
Not true: aside from the link I *just* posted about the *new* Chinese SUV, there's this:
IIHS Rates Fusion Poor in Side Test
Sedan scores Marginal and Acceptable in rear and front testing
http://www.autobytel.com/content/sha...le_id_int/1191
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Had he been in a Kia Spectra or Ford Fusion or other car with poor crash test history, he would've fared worse. To think otherwise assumes that all cars are equally safe which is flat wrong.
IIHS Rates Fusion Poor in Side Test
Sedan scores Marginal and Acceptable in rear and front testing
http://www.autobytel.com/content/sha...le_id_int/1191
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Had he been in a Kia Spectra or Ford Fusion or other car with poor crash test history, he would've fared worse. To think otherwise assumes that all cars are equally safe which is flat wrong.
Last edited by fast-tl; 03-19-2006 at 05:45 PM.
#35
Originally Posted by fast-tl
Not true: aside from the link I *just* posted about the *new* Chinese SUV, there's this:
IIHS Rates Fusion Poor in Side Test
Sedan scores Marginal and Acceptable in rear and front testing
http://www.autobytel.com/content/sha...le_id_int/1191
IIHS Rates Fusion Poor in Side Test
Sedan scores Marginal and Acceptable in rear and front testing
http://www.autobytel.com/content/sha...le_id_int/1191
#36
Originally Posted by fast-tl
Not true: aside from the link I *just* posted about the *new* Chinese SUV, there's this:
IIHS Rates Fusion Poor in Side Test
Sedan scores Marginal and Acceptable in rear and front testing
http://www.autobytel.com/content/sha...le_id_int/1191
IIHS Rates Fusion Poor in Side Test
Sedan scores Marginal and Acceptable in rear and front testing
http://www.autobytel.com/content/sha...le_id_int/1191
Again, look at the vehicle in the video. The passenger safety cell is breached and it's pure luck that this guy survived, especially with the injuries that he sustained.
FYI...The Ford 500 has a better crash rating than an A6. IMHO crash testing doesn't matter in this type of crash, since vehicles aren't tested/engineered for 2 collisions by heavy commercial vehicles at highway speeds.
#37
As for the China market vehicle, they are planning to sell vehicles in the U.S., but the only reason I mentioned it was to counter the false statement that "all modern cars have sturdy structures." That's simply untrue.
I agree that cars aren't engineered for this type of crash; what I'm repeating is if you start out with a better engineered vehicle, your chances are better. I don't see how anyone could argue with that. It's the case here. As for the Fusion, it was also mentioned that rear and frontal results weren't so hot, regardless of side airbags or not. I don't dispute that the guy was lucky as well.
I agree that cars aren't engineered for this type of crash; what I'm repeating is if you start out with a better engineered vehicle, your chances are better. I don't see how anyone could argue with that. It's the case here. As for the Fusion, it was also mentioned that rear and frontal results weren't so hot, regardless of side airbags or not. I don't dispute that the guy was lucky as well.
#38
Originally Posted by fast-tl
As for the China market vehicle, they are planning to sell vehicles in the U.S., but the only reason I mentioned it was to counter the false statement that "all modern cars have sturdy structures." That's simply untrue.
I agree that cars aren't engineered for this type of crash; what I'm repeating is if you start out with a better engineered vehicle, your chances are better. I don't see how anyone could argue with that. It's the case here. As for the Fusion, it was also mentioned that rear and frontal results weren't so hot, regardless of side airbags or not. I don't dispute that the guy was lucky as well.
I agree that cars aren't engineered for this type of crash; what I'm repeating is if you start out with a better engineered vehicle, your chances are better. I don't see how anyone could argue with that. It's the case here. As for the Fusion, it was also mentioned that rear and frontal results weren't so hot, regardless of side airbags or not. I don't dispute that the guy was lucky as well.
How do you know that the TT is a better engineered car? Is it safer because it costs a lot? Again, the A6 scores worse than a Ford 500. The Audi has German engineering and costs double, but the Ford outperforms it. Another example is the Chevy Malibu's rating which equals the A3, Passat, and Jetta. There goes your arguement.
This crash was pure luck and nothing else. Again, look at the car and how it's safety structure was breached. This guy defied the odds, simple as that.
#39
OK. As I said earlier we'll have to agree to disagree. The Chinese vehicle, while not sold in the US *is* modern, just not sturdy. You said all modern cars. You didn't say all modern cars sold in the US. That's my proof. Here's a link to the last-generation Ford f-150, a large vehicle:
http://tinyurl.com/m2kxc
My mother-in-law owns one that is NOT 10 years old, but I'd like her to get rid of. I would not like to be driving that thing in a wreck. All I'm saying is that the IIHS causes lots of carmakers to make changes to designs that are not sturdy enough; if all modern cars already had sturdy structures there'd be no need for the IIHS or crash testing.
There *are* vehicles I wouldn't buy today because of their safety rating. I already posted about how I'm thankful I was in my Expedition rather than my Altima the day I was t-boned at 40mph. There is a difference between models.
Let me explain some things you may not know about your examples:
The Ford 500 is built on the same platform as the Volvo S80, another nameplate known for safety. The Chevy Malibu shares the same platform as the Saab 9-3, another nameplate for for safety. Wow, that backs UP my argument, rather that destroys it, since these European nameplates are all engineered for autobahn use.
Do your homework!!
http://tinyurl.com/m2kxc
My mother-in-law owns one that is NOT 10 years old, but I'd like her to get rid of. I would not like to be driving that thing in a wreck. All I'm saying is that the IIHS causes lots of carmakers to make changes to designs that are not sturdy enough; if all modern cars already had sturdy structures there'd be no need for the IIHS or crash testing.
There *are* vehicles I wouldn't buy today because of their safety rating. I already posted about how I'm thankful I was in my Expedition rather than my Altima the day I was t-boned at 40mph. There is a difference between models.
Let me explain some things you may not know about your examples:
The Ford 500 is built on the same platform as the Volvo S80, another nameplate known for safety. The Chevy Malibu shares the same platform as the Saab 9-3, another nameplate for for safety. Wow, that backs UP my argument, rather that destroys it, since these European nameplates are all engineered for autobahn use.
Do your homework!!
#40
Originally Posted by fast-tl
OK. As I said earlier we'll have to agree to disagree. The Chinese vehicle, while not sold in the US *is* modern, just not sturdy. You said all modern cars. You didn't say all modern cars sold in the US. That's my proof. Here's a link to the last-generation Ford f-150, a large vehicle:
http://tinyurl.com/m2kxc
My mother-in-law owns one that is NOT 10 years old, but I'd like her to get rid of. I would not like to be driving that thing in a wreck. All I'm saying is that the IIHS causes lots of carmakers to make changes to designs that are not sturdy enough; if all modern cars already had sturdy structures there'd be no need for the IIHS or crash testing.
There *are* vehicles I wouldn't buy today because of their safety rating. I already posted about how I'm thankful I was in my Expedition rather than my Altima the day I was t-boned at 40mph. There is a difference between models.
Let me explain some things you may not know about your examples:
The Ford 500 is built on the same platform as the Volvo S80, another nameplate known for safety. The Chevy Malibu shares the same platform as the Saab 9-3, another nameplate for for safety. Wow, that backs UP my argument, rather that destroys it, since these European nameplates are all engineered for autobahn use.
Do your homework!!
http://tinyurl.com/m2kxc
My mother-in-law owns one that is NOT 10 years old, but I'd like her to get rid of. I would not like to be driving that thing in a wreck. All I'm saying is that the IIHS causes lots of carmakers to make changes to designs that are not sturdy enough; if all modern cars already had sturdy structures there'd be no need for the IIHS or crash testing.
There *are* vehicles I wouldn't buy today because of their safety rating. I already posted about how I'm thankful I was in my Expedition rather than my Altima the day I was t-boned at 40mph. There is a difference between models.
Let me explain some things you may not know about your examples:
The Ford 500 is built on the same platform as the Volvo S80, another nameplate known for safety. The Chevy Malibu shares the same platform as the Saab 9-3, another nameplate for for safety. Wow, that backs UP my argument, rather that destroys it, since these European nameplates are all engineered for autobahn use.
Do your homework!!
You are correct. The Ford 500(modified S80) shares the same platform as the S80 and the Malibu(epsilon) shares the same platform with the Saab. Both are designed and engineered by GM and Ford respectively. Neither vehicles are designed for autobahn use. I've done my research and again if you look at the pictures it apparent that the suvivabilty of this crash was based on luck.
A caveat: The vast majority of accidents are caused by driver error. The best safety tool is you. Pay attention to what's happening around you and learn how to actually control your vehicle. Most people don't know how to control their vehicle in a panic situation.
Last edited by Maximized; 03-19-2006 at 06:50 PM.