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Old 11-07-2013, 01:10 PM
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2014 Motor Trend Car of the Year

um... i don't want to repost but i can't find anything. So here it is


http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/..._cadillac_cts/


Winner: 2014 CTS Vsport


look at the price between 3.6 and Vsport.
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Typo. Mod please correct the title.
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Motor Trend of the Car

Perhaps you should have searched for Motor Trend Car of the Year. :wink:
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...and yea, who is gonna buy the 3.6 when the V can be had for just a tad more?

That's a bit of a pricing head scratcher.
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I'm confused. A 4 cylinder with more power (I want torque over HP) and faster, but with worse mileage priced less than the V6?

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...and yea, who is gonna buy the 3.6 when the V can be had for just a tad more?

That's a bit of a pricing head scratcher.
Someone who doesn't want forced induction? And that's the TT V6 "Vsport", not the SC V8 "V".
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Where is the Motor Trend of the Car thread?
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Typo. Mod please correct the title.


Fixed.....




.......I'm still disappointed it wasn't the Stingray though.
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I think CTS VSport deserves it. But with such performance they really should have done a better job on those fake exhaust tips.

2015 - M3 or M4 or M235i
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I'm just waiting for the new V (not the V sport)
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I'm just waiting for the new V (not the V sport)
Though I will say that the V-Sport at least has some performance chops to it, unlike the BMW M package and Lexus "F-sport", which are all show and no go.

Anyway....
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I wonder how much money was involved.....
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Now the ultimate question - who here would buy one?
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for sure I'd consider buying one.. a CTS-V that is
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Originally Posted by RPhilMan1
Now the ultimate question - who here would buy one?
If I were shopping for a car in this class, I would most certainly have the CTS at the top of my list. Unfortunately, the V sport is out of my price range.
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For $70k i would buy AWD RLX.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
For $70k i would buy AWD RLX.


h-SH-AWD PAWS RLX

you mean?
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The American cars to get this "honor" have not done well much past it........
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
For $70k i would buy AWD RLX.
And you would be the one guy that did...
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.......I'm still disappointed it wasn't the Stingray though.
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Originally Posted by srika
for sure I'd consider buying one.. a CTS-V wagon that is
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I must be the only one that thinks this car's styling is a step back from the first generation. This design language reminds me the the Cadillac of old. I'm disappointed that it's bigger too. I don't care if it's lighter. I hope the V changes my mind. That's not the launch I'm waiting for though. I can't wait to see the ATS V. I think the ATS wears the new design language a lot better than the CTS.
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The problem with the last gen cts is that's its size put it in between competitive model. Having the ats allowed the cts to grow to be a real 5 competitor.

That said. I have to see it in person as I too am a fan of the last gen size/styling.
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Love the CTS-V series.
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I must be the only one that thinks this car's styling is a step back from the first generation. This design language reminds me the the Cadillac of old. I'm disappointed that it's bigger too. I don't care if it's lighter. I hope the V changes my mind. That's not the launch I'm waiting for though. I can't wait to see the ATS V. I think the ATS wears the new design language a lot better than the CTS.
Do you think it's a step back from the first generation or the second(last) generation? Personally, I don't think the first generation has aged well. Also, I can't understand how anyone would think the new design is reminiscent of older Cadillacs.

Why would you be disappointed that it is bigger? As Sarlacc pointed out, that last gen was a tweener, larger than a 3 series/C-class but smaller than a 5 series/E-class. This new generation puts it squarely in the same class as the 5 series/E-class, which only makes sense having the ATS in the lineup.
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Do you think it's a step back from the first generation or the second(last) generation? Personally, I don't think the first generation has aged well. Also, I can't understand how anyone would think the new design is reminiscent of older Cadillacs.

Why would you be disappointed that it is bigger? As Sarlacc pointed out, that last gen was a tweener, larger than a 3 series/C-class but smaller than a 5 series/E-class. This new generation puts it squarely in the same class as the 5 series/E-class, which only makes sense having the ATS in the lineup.
A step back from the 2nd gen. The 1st gen was nice looking, but the 2nd gen IMO was a game changer. I may be being too harsh on the comparison to the old style Caddies. I think it comes from the car getting larger, and somewhat more bland in style, with the exception of the aggressive front end.

I generally dislike that every automobile manufacture is making their cars larger and larger with every refresh. That's always a disappointment for me, regardless of the manufacturer. Look at the size of a Honda Civic these days. I'm of the camp that a midsized car on the smaller side (ala Infiniti G et. al.) is the perfect size for a sporty sedan. These car classes are getting too close together IMO.

It might just be me, but I swear when the 2nd gen CTS came out it was competing against the 3 Series. I thought that was a good place for it. Why does it now have to compete with the 5 Series? Cadillac could have put the STS on a diet to compete with the 5 Series.

I do look forward to the CTS-V coupe, however. Hopefully it'll change my mind about this new design.
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MotorTrend COTY = JOTY

Here are a few of my person favs from the past...

2004 Toyota Prius
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
1993 Ford Probe GT
1988 Pontiac Grand Prix
1983 AMC / Renault Alliance
1974 Ford Mustang II
1972 Citroën SM
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hahaha... yeah MT was never taken too seriously in the car mag biz...
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Originally Posted by JS + MS3


h-SH-AWD PAWS RLX

you mean?
No. What is the complaint going to be when Acura puts out a big-body sedan that out runs, out handles, and gets WAY better MPGs than any RWD V8 in its class?

I digress...
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Originally Posted by knight rider
It might just be me, but I swear when the 2nd gen CTS came out it was competing against the 3 Series. I thought that was a good place for it. Why does it now have to compete with the 5 Series? Cadillac could have put the STS on a diet to compete with the 5 Series.
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This is where the problem of size I mentioned comes in.

The CTS wasn't meant to compete with the 3...even though its size put it between a 3 and a 5...GM always said the benchmark they were going after was the 5 series.

The STS/XTS are FWD luxo cruisers...more of an es300 competitor.
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Originally Posted by oo7spy
No. What is the complaint going to be when Acura puts out a big-body sedan that out runs, out handles, and gets WAY better MPGs than any RWD V8 in its class?

I digress...
Let me correct you

They need to put a BETTER LOOKING and CHEAPER MSRP and MORE POWERFUL Sedan.

getting WAYYYYYY better MPGs is irrelevant in that segment.
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LOL...agreed. Many of the car of year turn out to be failures.
I never use these awards to help me what to decide.

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I wonder how much money was involved.....
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
This is where the problem of size I mentioned comes in.

The CTS wasn't meant to compete with the 3...even though its size put it between a 3 and a 5...GM always said the benchmark they were going after was the 5 series.

The STS/XTS are FWD luxo cruisers...more of an es300 competitor.
See, that's just confusing. That is why I said that these car classes are getting too close in size to tell any more. The 5 Series is getting larger too, so maybe the CTS will continue to play catch up. It's larger than an old 7 Series.
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