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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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2008 cadillac cts and beyond

an official gm rep came to my dealership on tuesday to train some of us sales consultants. anyways, he mentioned that the all new cts will soon be offered in coupe, convertible, wagon (probably only in europe), and "v" varieties. the cts is by far the best sedan cadillac has built in decades, so this seems promising.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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it does look pretty damn good. Are they selling yet? I think I saw one in a parking lot just this past weekend in hallendale beach FL
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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Saw one yesterday on the way home after work. Pretty decent looking car, I must say. I may take one for a spin in a couple of weeks, when I have some time.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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I still haven't seen a new one. Pictures I've seen show a nicer interior than any other GM product currently out. I can't wait to see the specs on the '09 V. Should be out next fall. If it doesn't have at least 500-525hp then I'll probably be steering towards the MB C63 AMG to replace my current V.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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caddy is back.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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I will give it a fair shot, looks pretty good.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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The new CTS is the best thing to come from Cadillac in decades.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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Want to hook a brother up with a black on black CTS....
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
The new CTS is the best thing to come from Cadillac in decades.
Correction: The new CTS is the best thing to come from GM in decades....
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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cts sedan has been on sale for a week or two now. all other variants to follow ...

dnd2984, i got a few in stock, hit me up ...
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by godfather2
cts sedan has been on sale for a week or two now. all other variants to follow ...

dnd2984, i got a few in stock, hit me up ...
can it be had with white exterior with red seats?
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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We heard all these praises back in 2002-2003... the rest is history.

Now what we have in hand is an obese car that tops 4000lbs. The 300HP is just a compensation for the overweight...
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by majin ssj eric
Correction: The new CTS is the best thing to come from GM in decades....
Be serious.
The current Z06 is the best thing to come from GM in decades.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Saintor
We heard all these praises back in 2002-2003... the rest is history.

Now what we have in hand is an obese car that tops 4000lbs. The 300HP is just a compensation for the overweight...

Lets not forget that it's size competes w/ cars like the E-class and 5-series...while it's price competes w/ the C-class and 3-series. Both those size-competitive cars weigh even more than the CTS.

I think Cadillac is planning on moving the CTS into the STS market and bringing in a smaller, more nimble entry-level Caddy.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Lets not forget that it's size competes w/ cars like the E-class and 5-series...while it's price competes w/ the C-class and 3-series. Both those size-competitive cars weigh even more than the CTS.
Definitely FALSE. Get your facts straight. BTW, the 3-series is within 75lbs of the 5-series. Dimensions are closer than you think.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Saintor
Definitely FALSE. Get your facts straight. BTW, the 3-series is within 75lbs of the 5-series. Dimensions are closer than you think.
The new CTS is closer to the 5 series than the 3. and is 100 lbs heavier than the 5




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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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can it be had with white exterior with red seats?
ebony, cashmere, or light titanium
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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I drove one the week before. Nice car. The navi is real cool. The car handled very well. It is very big inside. Definately roomier than a 3-series.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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just drive the vehicle and then tell me what you think. i can tell you from extensive time behind the wheel, that thing is no joke
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
The new CTS is closer to the 5 series than the 3. and is 100 lbs heavier than the 5
The chart you posted has the standard SFI V6 (255-260HP).

The 2008 CTS with the optional DFI(direct injection) V6 w/300 HP weighed about 4020 lbs, acc. to Autoweek several weeks back. That may have been an actual weight (as opposed to curb or dry weight-- if there is a difference).
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 11:14 PM
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Whether the CTS competes with the 3 series or 5 series is not a matter, it's still pretty heavy, and therefore its performance is not up to par with 335i or IS350 (not sure about 5 series though). But still, I think the CTS is a very decent car, Cadillac has been improving a lot. 10% less weight and it would be true sports sedan.
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 02:29 AM
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Who cares how much it weighs? Its still plenty quick enough and looks fantastic! The 335i is just a fat friend away from weighing the same....
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 03:08 AM
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Who cares how much it weighs? Its still plenty quick enough and looks fantastic! The 335i is just a fat friend away from weighing the same....
But at least the 335i gives you the option of leaving your fat friend to hitchhike home while you tear it up on a canyon road ...
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Whether the CTS competes with the 3 series or 5 series is not a matter, it's still pretty heavy, and therefore its performance is not up to par with 335i or IS350 (not sure about 5 series though). But still, I think the CTS is a very decent car, Cadillac has been improving a lot. 10% less weight and it would be true sports sedan.
I think i would reserve that judgment till its actually tested and copmpared??
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Will Y.
The chart you posted has the standard SFI V6 (255-260HP).

The 2008 CTS with the optional DFI(direct injection) V6 w/300 HP weighed about 4020 lbs, acc. to Autoweek several weeks back. That may have been an actual weight (as opposed to curb or dry weight-- if there is a difference).
According to GMs web site

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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
According to GMs web site
Wow- 2 lbs difference between standard and direct injection V6??

It turns out I mis-cited my source-- the CTS' weight was mentioned in a full test in September's Car & Driver at http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...nce-page2.html rather than in Autoweek.

Car & Driver weighed the CTS-- 4032 lbs, almost 100 lbs. being the optional sunroof.
And I like sunroofs...
My guess is that automakers like to use bare-bones, empty cars for their curb weights so that the weight changes a lot once options and liquids (gas, coolant, etc.) are included.
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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well, it's been tested by car and driver already, the link is posted too here.

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...nce-page2.html

0-60 in 5.8s,
1/4mile in 14.6@97mph

that's considerably slower than IS350/335i/G35/6MT TL/TL-S. Also keep in mind that the engine is sourced from Holden, its NVH is not as good as the aforementioned competitors.

But the CTS was tested and tuned in Nurburgring, thus its handling is up to the level with the European sedans, which is very good. Its grip, stability, balance, all are good; the only area lacking is the agility, due to the weight. Anyways, the auto gearbox are pretty good too.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
well, it's been tested by car and driver already, the link is posted too here.

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...nce-page2.html

0-60 in 5.8s,
1/4mile in 14.6@97mph

that's considerably slower than IS350/335i/G35/6MT TL/TL-S. Also keep in mind that the engine is sourced from Holden, its NVH is not as good as the aforementioned competitors.

But the CTS was tested and tuned in Nurburgring, thus its handling is up to the level with the European sedans, which is very good. Its grip, stability, balance, all are good; the only area lacking is the agility, due to the weight. Anyways, the auto gearbox are pretty good too.

That's not exactly a definitive measure of the CTS' capabilities. The first Edmunds test of the IS350 had it leisurely strolling to 60 in 6 seconds flat. The last R&T test of an IS improved that number to 4.9 seconds. Different tests=different results.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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Oh, and for the CTS' extra weight you also get alot more interior room than either the 335i or IS350....
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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^ you also get hand laid fabrics in the interior as well as french stitching on the leather seats
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by majin ssj eric
Oh, and for the CTS' extra weight you also get alot more interior room than either the 335i or IS350....
Exactly. While many are going to compare it to them, its a much car
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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yea thats very true, still have to wait for more test results before we can compare. And bang for the buck, CTS is good at that too.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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Wasn't this car used on the show "Burn Notice"?
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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didn't realize how big the cts is.

i guess the sts will be more of a 7series/s-class competitor?

anyhow, i'm very impressed with the looks of the new cts. and the interior is gorgeous.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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^ the cts interior volume is about the same, but it does have a 2" wider track for improved stability. additionally, the front seats use "thin-seat" technology to allow more knee room for rear passengers and even the back seats use the same technology to free up more space in the trunk
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