Looks like the new Eclipse GT will actually come somewhat close to giving the CL-S and TL-S a run for it's money in performance catagory... 6.8-second 0-60 and a 14.9 quarter-mile still won't be there with a CL or TL but still isnt bad... Mitsu's desperate attempt to keep their heads above water?

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=105582

 

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=1

Ha! R&T says a 5.8, i dont believe those numbers, money says it will be a dog, and won't even come close to keeping up with a CL-S or TL-S.

 

5.8... yea riiighhtt

badac, is that your daughter or your girlfriend? hehe

 

Well..... I don't think it would be humanly possible for me to have a daughter same age as me...

 

when the Eclipse becomes a mid size sport coupe like the 3.2CL???

it looks ugly and with 3500lb and a 3.8 V6, it's not any sport compact anymore

 

Ugh last time I looked at the numbers it seems like the new Eclipse makes a shit ton more torque than the J32A2. I bet quite a few race stories will be posted with close results.


EDIT: Yeah I just checked again... the new Eclipse makes 260 ft-lbs.

It also ran 14.4 @ 101 in the R&T test. That's good enough to smoke ANY stock CL-S 6-speed on the lot. Sorry guys... the motor in this new Eclipse is legit. The car is in 350Z/ Mustang GT territory.

 

I agree. I'm not sure why it wouldn't take a CL-S with more power less weight.

 

More power... but similar weights.

 

Yeah agreed Steve, I was looking at the first test link I posted that showed it only doing a 6.8 0-60. I don't think we'll see it doing a 5.8 anytime soon, but it's still pretty quick, within stock 6 speed territory, not auto though. This kinda sucks, glad I'm not stock anymore, I would feel really salty losing to a girl driving a new eclipse in my daily driver, or any car I drive for that matter.

 

isnt CLS-6 a 5.9 060?

 

A race between a new eclipse and a CL-S will be a drivers race.

 

Most stock, properly driven manual Zs and GTs run in the mid to high-13s so how is a 14.4 in that territory?

 

The car is in Accord 6MT territory.

And I would pick the Accord over that PoS anyday.

 

There's so much more to a car than 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Who cares if does 60 in 4 seconds. Its ugly as sin.

 

They don't trap over 101 MPH though.

There's alot more to racing that ET's

The trap speed is a good indicator of how much power the car is putting to the ground vs. it's weight.

The Z and the new GT both trap around 100-102 MPH.

 

Zs and GTs run mid 13s? Since when? I always thought they were low 14 cars with good drivers running high 13s.

 

I rarely ever see them in the mid-13s.

 

MT May 2005

GT Convertible
0-60: 5.2
1/4 Mile:13.8 @ 100.9

Coupes are sub 5 sec and 13.5 second cars. The 350Z is in the 14's.

 

Still only traps at 100.9 MPH.

The RWD and low end torque get the quicker ET.

Put them side by side on the highway and you'll consistantly see the two stay even.

 

Trap speed > ET

 

Which two on the Hwy? The GT and Z or the GT, Z and Eclipse?

 

I never said it's not possible. Are we both talking about the older Mustang GTs?

Or maybe you're talking about Mach 1s? Because I really can't find many older gen stock Mustang GTs that are in the 13s, let alone mid 13s.

http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php?resultpage=7&carmodel=270&data1=2000&o p1=>&data2=1000&op2=<&search2=et&days=10000000&res ultsperpage=10&carmake=15

 

Mrsteve in post 15 was reffering to new GT's.

 

Oh, I believe that the new ones can run mid 13s. They don't seem to be good highway cars though (like the previous stock Mustangs).

Now the Z, I don't think those ones can run mid 13s like someone said up there.

 

For the most part yes. But I've seen a few stockers run in the 13.8-14.0 range (trapping ~102mph) at Etown on a few occassions. The VQ35DE gains a couple tenths once broken in. Mag times with green cars fall short on real world Z 1/4 mile times, based on what I've seen.

But no matter how expertly driven, I cant see a stock Z running mid-13s (unless Nissan inadvertently installed a VK45DE motor instead of the VQ35DE. )

As far as Stang straight line performance, rumor has it that the current GT seems to run along the lines of the outgoing Mach 1...mid-low 13s. I've got to head to Etown for a Ford event to confirm that one though.

 

I don't recall ever seeing 13's in mags. Wheather it happens in owners hands

Stock or lightly modded 05 RSX-S' are running mid to low 14's so I'd expect Z's to be quicker.

 

looks like a Audi TT and a Mercury Cougar FAWKED

 

I saw a number of stock 350z's on my350z.com run 13.6-13.9 (proven with timeslips)...most however ended up in the very low 14's...14.0-14.2

 

MotorTrend got a Z to do a 13.7 in the 1/4 mile, there are other mags that have gotten high 13's too.