2003 Infiniti M45, Lexus LS, ES and SC price announcenemnts
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2003 Infiniti M45, Lexus LS, ES and SC price announcenemnts
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Infiniti, the luxury division of Nissan North America, Inc., today announced pricing on the all-new 2003 M45, performance sport sedan, which is set to go on sale October 4 at 158 Infiniti dealers nationwide. The rear-wheel drive M45, with its standard 340-horsepower V8 engine, 5-speed automatic transmission and long list of luxury features, has a Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) starting at $42,300.
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Lexus announced Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Prices (MSRP) today for the 2003 LS 430 and ES 300 luxury sedans, the SC 430 hardtop convertible, and the LX 470 premium luxury utility vehicle, which receives new features and revised styling for the new model year.
Infiniti, the luxury division of Nissan North America, Inc., today announced pricing on the all-new 2003 M45, performance sport sedan, which is set to go on sale October 4 at 158 Infiniti dealers nationwide. The rear-wheel drive M45, with its standard 340-horsepower V8 engine, 5-speed automatic transmission and long list of luxury features, has a Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) starting at $42,300.
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http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...1788002&EDATE=
Lexus announced Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Prices (MSRP) today for the 2003 LS 430 and ES 300 luxury sedans, the SC 430 hardtop convertible, and the LX 470 premium luxury utility vehicle, which receives new features and revised styling for the new model year.
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Re: 2003 Infiniti M45, Lexus LS, ES and SC price announcenemnts
Originally posted by gavriil
Infiniti, the luxury division of Nissan North America, Inc., today announced pricing on the all-new 2003 M45, performance sport sedan, which is set to go on sale October 4 at 158 Infiniti dealers nationwide. The rear-wheel drive M45, with its standard 340-horsepower V8 engine, 5-speed automatic transmission and long list of luxury features, has a Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) starting at $42,300.
Infiniti, the luxury division of Nissan North America, Inc., today announced pricing on the all-new 2003 M45, performance sport sedan, which is set to go on sale October 4 at 158 Infiniti dealers nationwide. The rear-wheel drive M45, with its standard 340-horsepower V8 engine, 5-speed automatic transmission and long list of luxury features, has a Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) starting at $42,300.
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Re: Re: 2003 Infiniti M45, Lexus LS, ES and SC price announcenemnts
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Why can't Acura have a 340hp V8 something in the $40K range
Why can't Acura have a 340hp V8 something in the $40K range
Good question.
Answer: No V8 cos Honda believes in gas consumption first, big engine second. And the way they can solve that they believe is with a V6 plus an electric engine = V8 power with V6 gas consumption. I dont see anything wrong with that as long as the price is comparable to the competition.
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Originally posted by gavriil
Good question.
Answer: No V8 cos Honda believes in gas consumption first, big engine second. And the way they can solve that they believe is with a V6 plus an electric engine = V8 power with V6 gas consumption. I dont see anything wrong with that as long as the price is comparable to the competition.
Good question.
Answer: No V8 cos Honda believes in gas consumption first, big engine second. And the way they can solve that they believe is with a V6 plus an electric engine = V8 power with V6 gas consumption. I dont see anything wrong with that as long as the price is comparable to the competition.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 2003 Infiniti M45, Lexus LS, ES and SC price announcenemnts
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We all know how Honda is enviroment friendly, they're into the V6 assisted by electric motor (Hybrid engine) instead of V8, but give us 300hp+ to compete w/ the market will ya. geesh.. maybe the new TL/CL/RL :P
We all know how Honda is enviroment friendly, they're into the V6 assisted by electric motor (Hybrid engine) instead of V8, but give us 300hp+ to compete w/ the market will ya. geesh.. maybe the new TL/CL/RL :P
Thus, I am sure that when the new engines arrive, they will be more than adequate. Honda is not playing games when it comes to power. Especially with Acura. We will all find out with the arrival of the new TL and see what the TLS will get.
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Actually here some simple math.
When the Accord had 200 HP, the CLS had and still has 260 HP in Type S trim. That is 30% more power.
One could assume that with that thinking the next TLS/CLS will get around 312 HP. That is 30% more than the 240HP that the Accord got in V6 trim. Can you do that from 3.2 liters (in case Acura wanted to keep displacement the same)? Absolutely! Look at BMW.
It's easier done from 3.5 liters though which is my guess of what the next TLS/CLS will get. Watch. It will be the 3.5 liter, 300HP iVtec engine from the Dualnote. They have already revealed their secret to us and we are still wondering.
I guess we will all find out soon.
When the Accord had 200 HP, the CLS had and still has 260 HP in Type S trim. That is 30% more power.
One could assume that with that thinking the next TLS/CLS will get around 312 HP. That is 30% more than the 240HP that the Accord got in V6 trim. Can you do that from 3.2 liters (in case Acura wanted to keep displacement the same)? Absolutely! Look at BMW.
It's easier done from 3.5 liters though which is my guess of what the next TLS/CLS will get. Watch. It will be the 3.5 liter, 300HP iVtec engine from the Dualnote. They have already revealed their secret to us and we are still wondering.
I guess we will all find out soon.
08-23-2002, 03:23 PM
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In terms of Honda engine technology, generating 100hp/liter is just a piece of cake, and has been achieved many years ago. However, putting 300+ hp on the front wheels and maintaining the current level of vehicular handling may not be that easy to achieve. No one will ever want a 300+ hp TL-S/CL-S that will fly only in the straight line, but will slide off the cliffs in the mountain twisties.
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Originally posted by Edward
In terms of Honda engine technology, generating 100hp/liter is just a piece of cake, and has been achieved many years ago. However, putting 300+ hp on the front wheels and maintaining the current level of vehicular handling may not be that easy to achieve. No one will ever want a 300+ hp TL-S/CL-S that will fly only in the straight line, but will slide off the cliffs in the mountain twisties.
In terms of Honda engine technology, generating 100hp/liter is just a piece of cake, and has been achieved many years ago. However, putting 300+ hp on the front wheels and maintaining the current level of vehicular handling may not be that easy to achieve. No one will ever want a 300+ hp TL-S/CL-S that will fly only in the straight line, but will slide off the cliffs in the mountain twisties.
FWD cars pulls U in the direction U point it, not RWD cars. When it gets slippery & sliding, FWD cars is better to have, but RWD cars are better true sports cars cause it can put power to the ground better.
08-23-2002, 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by gavriil
Actually here some simple math.
When the Accord had 200 HP, the CLS had and still has 260 HP in Type S trim. That is 30% more power.
One could assume that with that thinking the next TLS/CLS will get around 312 HP. That is 30% more than the 240HP that the Accord got in V6 trim. Can you do that from 3.2 liters (in case Acura wanted to keep displacement the same)? Absolutely! Look at BMW.
It's easier done from 3.5 liters though which is my guess of what the next TLS/CLS will get. Watch. It will be the 3.5 liter, 300HP iVtec engine from the Dualnote. They have already revealed their secret to us and we are still wondering.
I guess we will all find out soon.
Actually here some simple math.
When the Accord had 200 HP, the CLS had and still has 260 HP in Type S trim. That is 30% more power.
One could assume that with that thinking the next TLS/CLS will get around 312 HP. That is 30% more than the 240HP that the Accord got in V6 trim. Can you do that from 3.2 liters (in case Acura wanted to keep displacement the same)? Absolutely! Look at BMW.
It's easier done from 3.5 liters though which is my guess of what the next TLS/CLS will get. Watch. It will be the 3.5 liter, 300HP iVtec engine from the Dualnote. They have already revealed their secret to us and we are still wondering.
I guess we will all find out soon.
lets hope youre right *crossing fingers*
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2003 Infiniti M45, Lexus LS, ES and SC price announcenemnts
Originally posted by gavriil
Dont forget that when the CLS came out it was ahead of the competition in terms of power.
Dont forget that when the CLS came out it was ahead of the competition in terms of power.
In 2001 the CL-S was so far ahead of its competitors in horsepower that other manufacturers, most notably Nissan, really went into a scramble.
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Originally posted by CharlesNguyen
Honda/Acura are very good w/ keeping torque steer under a control, so 300hp+ shouldn't be a problem w/ stability. As for flying off the cliff, usually RWD cars will go sideways before a FWD car does.
FWD cars pulls U in the direction U point it, not RWD cars. When it gets slippery & sliding, FWD cars is better to have, but RWD cars are better true sports cars cause it can put power to the ground better.
Honda/Acura are very good w/ keeping torque steer under a control, so 300hp+ shouldn't be a problem w/ stability. As for flying off the cliff, usually RWD cars will go sideways before a FWD car does.
FWD cars pulls U in the direction U point it, not RWD cars. When it gets slippery & sliding, FWD cars is better to have, but RWD cars are better true sports cars cause it can put power to the ground better.
08-23-2002, 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by CharlesNguyen
Honda/Acura are very good w/ keeping torque steer under a control, so 300hp+ shouldn't be a problem w/ stability. As for flying off the cliff, usually RWD cars will go sideways before a FWD car does.
FWD cars pulls U in the direction U point it, not RWD cars. When it gets slippery & sliding, FWD cars is better to have, but RWD cars are better true sports cars cause it can put power to the ground better.
Honda/Acura are very good w/ keeping torque steer under a control, so 300hp+ shouldn't be a problem w/ stability. As for flying off the cliff, usually RWD cars will go sideways before a FWD car does.
FWD cars pulls U in the direction U point it, not RWD cars. When it gets slippery & sliding, FWD cars is better to have, but RWD cars are better true sports cars cause it can put power to the ground better.
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hehe M45!, sounds sporty like something in between an M3 and M5
...but hardly sporty at all after looking at the pics, I remember this now
totally for the Cadillac age group...
...but hardly sporty at all after looking at the pics, I remember this now
totally for the Cadillac age group...
08-24-2002, 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by KavexTrax
hehe M45!, sounds sporty like something in between an M3 and M5
...but hardly sporty at all after looking at the pics, I remember this now
totally for the Cadillac age group...
hehe M45!, sounds sporty like something in between an M3 and M5
...but hardly sporty at all after looking at the pics, I remember this now
totally for the Cadillac age group...
also did any of you guys see the pic of the M45 dropped with the bodykit? that was hella cool lookin. it has potential but the front is just so bleh.
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Great car for a grandpa. I don't think it will sell though. Anybody know why didn't they call it the J45? Remember Infiniti once had a RWD midsize luxo sedan. There are some fans of the old J, so using that name would possibly squeeze a few extra customers...few (the cars don't have much in common). Plus, there already was an Infiniti M...remember the coupe and convertable from the early 90's?
The M30:
IMO the J30 still looks good today!
The M30:
IMO the J30 still looks good today!
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Nevermind all that shit, check it:
I didn't know anyone besides Caddy had night vision.
Lexus Link and Night View systems are offered as optional equipment on the 2003 LX 470, as well as a rear seat DVD entertainment system that includes two sets of wireless headphones.
The all-new Night View system uses near-infrared technology to help enhance nighttime driving visibility. The system projects near-infrared beams from two lamps in the lower grille. The near-infrared light reflects from objects ahead back to a Charged Coupled Device (CCD) camera mounted inside at the top of the windshield. A dedicated computer processes the resulting natural-looking images, which are then projected onto the lower section of the windshield in the driver's field of vision, resulting in a picture similar to that on a black and white television.
The all-new Night View system uses near-infrared technology to help enhance nighttime driving visibility. The system projects near-infrared beams from two lamps in the lower grille. The near-infrared light reflects from objects ahead back to a Charged Coupled Device (CCD) camera mounted inside at the top of the windshield. A dedicated computer processes the resulting natural-looking images, which are then projected onto the lower section of the windshield in the driver's field of vision, resulting in a picture similar to that on a black and white television.
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Originally posted by Edward
In terms of Honda engine technology, generating 100hp/liter is just a piece of cake, and has been achieved many years ago. However, putting 300+ hp on the front wheels and maintaining the current level of vehicular handling may not be that easy to achieve. No one will ever want a 300+ hp TL-S/CL-S that will fly only in the straight line, but will slide off the cliffs in the mountain twisties.
In terms of Honda engine technology, generating 100hp/liter is just a piece of cake, and has been achieved many years ago. However, putting 300+ hp on the front wheels and maintaining the current level of vehicular handling may not be that easy to achieve. No one will ever want a 300+ hp TL-S/CL-S that will fly only in the straight line, but will slide off the cliffs in the mountain twisties.
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