so your telling me a C5 traps 106 when an LS1 camaro also traps 106 weighing 200lbs more. Again I think a C5 traps a little higher than 106.

 

Camaros put down more hp to the wheels because believe it or not, the live axle is more effecient than the C5s IRS suspension. The typical C5 traps 106-108.

 

He has trapped 106 numerous times on the stock 17's so the gearing changes isn't making a huge difference in the trap speeds. The area under the curve is whats making the trap speeds which is very strong when comparing it to the CLS. The facts are there and a chart would make it a lot easier to understand. 20+ whp differences in the mid range with make the car faster at the track by quite a good margain. Im talking about from 4500-6000 (usable power in any gear at the track) not just low rpms. I trap 100mph in my automatic on stock wheels and tires with full interior and he walks me like Im sitting still. He will trap at least 104 with full interior and stock wheels and tires. He ran with approx 200lbs of weight reduction which normally 100lbs = .1 and 1 mph. So 200lbs added when trapping 106 on "street tires" would put him right at 104.

 

Its a never ending issue. Next time Im at the track I will make a video of Matt running a stock or near stock LS1 and be sure to have video. If I was to do that then everyone would start "well the LS1 driver must suck". Its a never ending battle, he has timeslips, videos, dynos and people still try and say its not legit or doesn't add up. Ohh well cant please everyone:o

 

To clear few things about what STOCK LS1's trap at.
Auto F-bodies trap between 103-105mph.
M6 F-bodies trap between 105-109mph.
Auto C5's trap between 104-107mph.
M6 C5's trap between 108-111mph.

Bolt on M6 F-body traps 111-113mph. Mine did 112mph.

 

I have never seen those high of traps at my track.

 

Well, u have to look harder

 

The numbers just dont add up, like I stated before. A 106 trap is unheard of even for N/A 350Z's which are modded(aftermarket intake manifold included).

 

thanks for the clarification

 

toyo T1-s 235/45/17 and rescently i went 2.020 on nitto 555 not draggers regular....i went 8.81 eventhough i hit the rev limiter 3 times at the end...might have been an 8.71 only guessing but thats about 13.4

 

The area has been shown to be less than thought of. A plot only gives a graphical representation of the actual numbers. The numbers show something different than what is being conveyed; the J32A2 makes more total power in the range presented.

Just to be clear, a stock wheel/tire Maxima running stock weight would trap at 104 MPH when making 247 WHP. I know the area has been presented but it is not significant enough from the information I have seen.

Once again, I am not denouncing the claim. I am just trying to find the reason for the variance as this is not the norm. Could the dyno have been off?? It still stands that the car should be making 300+ WHP to make these speeds.

Lastly, you guys need to come down to Commerce, GA. to run. I need some good FWD V6 competition to make the shake down runs with my CL.

 

i'm really not into gutting the interior and all that, even though it would guarantee me 13's, no one here takes out more than the spare/jack

 

 

I don't think it would take 300+whp to make a 3300lb car with driver run 106 trap speed afterall a LS1 camaro weighs in at a heftly 3600+ with driver and they make right at 300whp stock and trap 106+ as stated above.
There are plenty of SC'ed and turbo Maximas from that area that run from time to time. You should come to Rockingham and run us and keith in his CL.

 

A bit far for me. But if I am in the area I certainly will. Once tuned I expect to see 112 MPH traps especially at Rockingham compared to Commerce. But this will take about 380 WHP on a full interior, street tires CL-S6.

 

+1!! I like racing and all but, I'm not willing to gutt my Maxima for a couple of tenths. Now if I had a boosted Civic or 1G GST/X, it'd be fair game for a gutted interior.

Peace.

 

 

This is a bit of an old post. Thanks for resurrecting the dead.

But it did bring back memories as I was on vacation during this thread.

 

 

So whena re we going to meet at a track one weekend for some friendly racing? I'll agree to your terms of full interior.

 

better get those runs on film. that would be awesome

 

what did you mean by this? something to do w/ the res?

this is interesting since i now have the capability to raise the limiter.

 

Ya'll got to make it down to Commerce, GA though. It is a bit hard for me to get too far away with the twins at home.

Heck, you guys can make it down from Charlotte in just a few hours, maybe even 2.5 hours. It takes me nearly 1.5 hours to get to Atlanta Dragway from my house on the northwest side of Atlanta.

 

We'll see soon enough but it will be a combination of things.