Mod list:

Modified Intake Manifold

Cattman 3.0 Headers

APexi SAFC-II

UR UDP

Ported stock airbox

17º base timing (14 is stock, 15 is stock spec)

Hot Plugs (+1)

Hollow OE Cat.

HKS rear section (axle back)

Bypassed TB coolant hose

93 octane pump gas

Stock B pipe

Fresh Amsoil 5w-30 motor earl.

VQ30DE earl filter

North Carolina air

Dave Brown Motorsports dynojet 248C



249.4hp 241.6tq

 

damn thats strong, is he gonna run n2o?

 

probably.... i have a buddy that had the same year maxima but it was auto with I/E and a 100 shot he dynoed 305hp and 396lbs TQ

 

With all of those mods I would have thought it would have put up bigger numbers than that. The torque is pretty good, but the HP numbers are nothing to brag about.

 

LMAO... you kidding me right???

 

Not losing all that power through the drivetrain is a beautiful thing.

 

And he has no performance Y-Pipe??? Nice numbers.

 

he has headers which include the y pipe. Thats SR20DEN on maxima.org

 

Cool, thanks for the clarification.

 

Thats me 2002 Auto with hacked stock airbox, midpipe to tap the nozzle into(100 jet), and full exhaust (stock headers) made 315whp and 396tq on 900psi bottle pressure :P

 

Ohhh and for those who don't know this guy ran a 13.18@107.3 (all motor) at the track on 22" slicks with a 2.19 60'. We all know each other and Keith can vouche for his times as well as me

 

yup he already has the setup just about ready to go. Direct Port 175-200 shot is what he will be tuning for the track. It should be fun

 

Blue line - blubyu2k2 best dyno 2002 Automatic traps 101
Red line - SR20DEN best dyno 2002 6 speed traps 106


same motors just to give a comparision of what a strong stock IM VQ35DE Maximas curve looks like compared to his. He did all the work on his IM in house free of charge also.

Matt

 

What's so funny? An automatic CL with headers and intake makes 232hp to wheels. That's only a difference of 17hp between that 6-speed Maxima with all of those extra mods and a CL with I/H. A 6-speed CL with H/I only is probably pushing 244hp or so.

Torque, on the other hand, is pretty nice, but that's just a consequence of having a larger 3.5L.

 

what was your et on the 106 trap?

 

A 6 speed with I/H is only going to be like 235whp and alot less tq than that VQ. Noone on here has ran low 13's NA that I know of, not even guys with the 3.5L conversion.

That being said, thats a nice dyno. VQ35 = teh hotness. I'd trade my J32 for a VQ35 anyday of the week.

 

that's w/ major weight reduction. aka gutted.

 

you should

 

Umm, the CL-S 6spd with I/H makes more than ~230whp. I don't have any dynos handy for I/H specifically, but here's 6spdmanual's 6spd CL-S making 247whp (only 2 hp away from the Maxima, but again not even close on the torque)... He has Headers/Intake/B-Pipe/Pulleys:

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...ight=6spd+dyno

This is with 6spdmanual's IMRC being broken too!!!

There's numbers there for a 3.5L S/C'ed CL-S Auto too ... Sounds like there were some problems but it was able to put down 244 ft-lbs of torque...

BTW- Here's a Comptech dyno of the CL-S 6spd with just an Icebox ... putting down 234whp.

http://www.comptechusa.com/images/dy...spd_icebox.pdf

 

250whp got him to 107 MPH?!?! Did they gut the entire interior? I mean I do 2.11 60's on street tires. That's not all that impressive for slicks.

S/C'ed CL-S's put down that much power if not more and run mid 13's.

Doesn't make sense to me.

 

i never would:P

 

allmotor ran a 13.5 @ 102 w/ his 6mt with the following mods -

intake
TB
headers
clutch/flywheel
slicks

if he had the unichip (to bump timing) and gutted interior, i'm sure he could have run a 13.2 or better.

 

Werd. I would never give up the smoothness of the J for the VQ.

 

wasnt all motors clutch broken when he went to the track though

 

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u sound like an old man

 

He ran a near 13 flat without NOS or boost? Even with nos i highly doubt that but if you can find the slip, please post it up.

 

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...512&forumid=96

 

His race weight was right at 3290 with him in the car. I've pulled 2.0 60's in my Automatic Maxima on street tires but try lauching a 6 speed on little 22" slicks they don't hook all that great from high rev clutch dumps. I use them on my Automatic b/c I can only stall to 2200 and it really helps my gearing so 22" is perfect for me. I knew you guys would doubt it but it doesn't make any difference to me I was there and actually videoed it but moved off the timeclock at the end not paying attention, but for the non believers you can hear the time of the other car being called out and it matches the exact time on his slip.

Any well respected members want to come to Rockingham next friday we will be there you can inspect the car and report back here if you find anything fishy. Keith will be there and know this guy personally but you guys still have your disbeliefs. Its cool though its hard to believe myself. BTW his best on stock 17's is 13.5@106 with a 2.2 60'

Matt

 

Playing the peak numbers game and not even having proof to back it saying probably is not that smart.

 

so the guy weighs 265#?


i need to get some 22" slicks. i could run high 12's right now w/ those.


i could also break my transmission even faster. :o

 

His total in mods consist of:

Headers: $550
UDP: $175 (just the crank pulley no tthe whole set like the CL's)
HKS rear: $150
SAFC: $300

Total: $1175

Everything else performed was free and used stock parts. Once he gets some larger diameter slicks expect 12's easily all motor and at least mid 11's with his nitrous setup.

 

yup hes not a lightweight, and you should get some 22's hell if you were local I would let you make a few passes on them. Its not that much of a shock on the Automatics rulling slicks with such a low stall

 

Correct, but the numbers that dictate the trap are at the upper end of the rev band where you spend more time during the run. The difference in overall power between the two engines at shift point ranges are minimal considering the J32A2 has 500 more revs to play with. There is plenty of proof to correlate the values.

Now on to that seemingly incorrect trap. Was it backed up with another run within 10%?? The ET seems to be possible but the trap is way off with the information presented. On a car, with driver, that weighs in close to 3400lbs and has a CD above 0.30 would require upwards of 300 WHP to trap that. IMO, either the weight reduction was incorrectly calculated or the timing lights were generous that night.

Shall we break out the math and include gearing to show how it does not calculate??

 

 

Break out all the math you want, myself, keith and every other car that night was running the usual times and traps(Bolt on LS1's 107-109, GT stangs 100-102). Yes it has been backed up and he has trapped 105-107 dozens of times on street tires and slicks on totally different days. You have to consider the smaller diameter tires in your math also as well as the lighter drive wheels weighing around 30lbs combined were as the stockers are a hefty 51lbs. Also his race weight with him in the car is probably not even touching 3300lbs much less 3400lbs. On the stock wheels he is around 4800 crossing the line in 4th gear where as on the smaller slicks he is around 5400-5500 rpms crossing the line. I invite any respected CL guy from this site to come out and run with us and will show you in person this is happening and we aren't some kids on the net making up stories, hiding mods, or lying about anything.

Matt

 

Also if anyone has access to any runviewer files from bolt on CL-S's I'd like to overlay them just to compare and see the differences. I know there has been plenty of dynos so there has to be some runviewer files floating around.

 

Now we are getting somewhere. Based on the numbers from this site and the V6Performance site I had made a rough calculation of 3400+ with driver. It appears that this was off or the numbers are being dropped by a noticeable margin which tends to lend support for the claim.

If the car is severly lightened and is running a wheel/tire combo which is also lighter and shorter (lowering the overall geraing) then it would be possible. But not with the numbers I was originally looking at. Any chance to get it on the scales?

 

Excel can perform the same function and even more.

 

WOW i didn't mean to start a war... ok first off i have seen this maxima first hand run 13.5@106, 13.4@106 (all motor on street tires) at the rock. i understand it is hard for everyone to believe but it did happen.... trust me guys i wouldn't have post about this if it wasn't a true story

 

No one thinks this, just discussing.