BigB270

I was wondering what car most people would prefer for a teenager around 16 years of age. The Eclips GS-T has a turbo and pushes about 220 hp and the RSX-S has 200 horsepower with out a turbo. Which one do you suggest that i should get

thealliance15

i hate the rsx for some reason, the eclipse is nice, Turbo 4WD, very EZ to mod.

red30cl

Go with the eclipse. You don't see as many of them as you do the RSX

zigzagzig

the gs-t is front wheel drive, the gsx is all wheel. if you can get the gsx, id go with that, but if not, then id go with the rsx

Ray Khan

I wouldn't reccomend cars like that for someone just learning to drive. I would look at something a bit less agressive.

If I were choosing between the 2 for myself I would think about what I want out of them.

eclipse, easy to mod and make silly fast, nowhere near as reliable as the NA acura. AWD very nice in bad weather. I wouldn't buy the ecplise unless I wanted to mod it. I wouldn't buy the ecplise unless I could afford to mod it. And by afford, not only buy the parts and install or pay for install, but be ready to deal with parts failing do to modding.

bigman

the eclipse has more options as far as tuning. But Also that motor needs to be beefed up before you tune too far. it has a very low threshold before you start bending rods and blowing head gaskets.

BigB270

What If it was someone that already knows how to drive considering i have been driving stick since i was 13 years old?

F23A4

I agree. Something like a Civic EX or a Sentra is a good choice for someone just starting out.

My son will be driving in 3 short years and I'm already considering what to get him. (I'm considering the Civic, Sentra and Tiburon -- My son's considering the Prelude, Eclipse GST/X, ITR)

BIGPOPPA21

well the gst isn't awd, but still i would go with the eclipse. the modding is endless.

KissMy_Type_S

GSX all the way. If the only option is the GST then forget it and go with the RSX

I dont think they made a 1999 GSX, did they?

Exit109GTI

Check out http://www.dsmtuners.com

scalbert

Having owned two DSMs, this is news to me. The 4G63T motor is a very stout unit which can make quite a bit of power before the need to open it up. In fact, 400 - 500 HP can be made without touching the internals.

Jonesi

I would go with the RSX-S... For one reason and that is the turbo. You won't know how hard the person before you drove it and if you're younger you will be running it pretty hard. And the turbo will be the first thing to go. I think you'll get more out of the RSX and have less worries and problems.

BigB270 - Are you from Pittsburgh, PA ?

BigB270

No I am from VA I need to change that

BoostedM3

When I was a teenager, I always wanted the AWD GSX.

acur8ly

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Rsx because Acura owns me

r10apple

For a teenager undoubtedly about to abuse his first car? The RSX-S will at least make it until you are 18...

zeroday

I had a 98 GST...loved the car. not a single problem at 25k miles when i sold it for a truck. Although it did rattle like a biatch. The GST had tons of torque steer...I would def. get the GSX if you go that route. The RSX is nice too...and VERY moddable...

Remember resale though; GSX will be worth almost nothing in a few years, and the RSX will hold its value.

Jonesi

LiQiCE

Personally, after owning 2 Mitsubishi's both of which had tons of problems ... I would go for the RSX. I'm sure there are plenty of people who haven't had any problems with Mitsubishi's before but for me I don't think I'd ever buy another Mitsubishi in my life.

Chaptorial

If it was me i'd take the RSX.

Ant7701

Turbo anyday of N/A...what kinda question is that???

Drive one and you'll understand..then put an intake and full exhaust on one and you'll never stop thanking me!!

Ray Khan

I have a friend running 11's on stock internals. Over 300 drag passes and no issues so far. Like anything else, modding is safer when you know what you are doing....he knows how to set up his maps. he doesn't just turn up the boost.

CL SLeePeR

From my experiences with Mitsu's I'd probably never own one. All though 4G63 motor in the GST does hold its own. The quality is in the rest of the car sucks. And to fix things on a Mitsu you always have to take it to the dealer because they require tools that according to Mitsu, they only have. I say RSX JMO...

CLpower

if you can get a GSX do it, if not go the RSX

18anatak

GS-T all the way on this one, those things can be crazy fast. Fuck the RSX in this case.

bnavarro

The newer DSM's are prone to crankwalk. Many 95-up owners swap 1g motors in the there 2g cars. The bottom end of the motor is able to handle 400-500 hp. Other things must be modded. Keep in mind that tuning a turbo car is way different then tuning a N/A car. I found that out when i bought my dsm about 3 months ago.

bnavarro

The GSX is good for 0-100 MPH. Anything over that, you should get the GST. The GST kicks the shit out of the AWD on top end, but the GSX hooks like a mother off the line. That's why i got the AWD. Not many streets you can't go past a 100 without getting stopped by the pigs.



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18anatak

Everyone keeps on saying GSX, but i think he's only looking at a GS-T, not GSX.

Chopsie

Correct, but the GSX is much more rare and much better at the track due to the AWD.

NOVAwhiteTypeS

i thought the 99 gs-t was around 205~210hp

bnavarro

Correct, 95-up has 210. 90-94 has 195.

scalbert

My FI tuning history includes two turbo DSMs, a Typhoon, a GTP and now the CL-S6SC. I agree with the tuning statement.

However, there was little changed with the 4G63T motor between the two generation besides the switch from a Mitsubishi turbo to a Garrett unit. Internals do not need to be touched until approaching 500 HP if everything else has been accounted for.

F23A4

The 1G GSX/TSi AWD/Laser RS AWD had 195hp; the 1G GS Turbo/TSi/Laser RS had 190hp if I'm not mistaken.

F23A4

Both run low 15s/upper 14s stock; add I/E and the RSX-S will do mid-14s consistently while the GST will run upper 13s.

bnavarro

Incorrect. They have the same HP. Def different at the wheels, cause of the drive train, but same at the crank.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/model-guide/

Check it out, it gives a good break down of the models and hp.

Import tuner did a power pages on the Eclipse GSX, and it gained 106 hp for only a 1000 bucks. Now that's what you call power for you money.

bnavarro

Thanks for backing me up. Could always count on you scalbert.

F23A4

I was going by my 1990 Eagle Talon brochure.

bnavarro

Very intersting. My brochure says the same thing. What would give it the extra 5 hp? I never seen that before.

scalbert

I believe there was a 5 HP difference between the manuals and automatics. Could that be the difference??