07 Camry has now caused a death from the Tranny

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Old 01-05-2007 | 04:25 PM
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07 Camry has now caused a death from the Tranny



From NHTSA website at:

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Lookup #10173766 at the following link
Old 01-05-2007 | 04:29 PM
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Old 01-05-2007 | 04:35 PM
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Not good... my friend has one of these, and I really don't want her to get hurt.. I should tell her.
Old 01-05-2007 | 04:39 PM
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One death out of how many sold?

meh.
Old 01-05-2007 | 04:43 PM
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Am I missing something, or does it not really say specifically what the cause of death was?
Old 01-05-2007 | 04:51 PM
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One death out of how many sold?

meh.
But the problem is big with the trannys failing. One death is just a start.
Old 01-05-2007 | 04:55 PM
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The tranny in my CL-S failed going 80+ mph a few months back...pretty much just coasted to a stop

Although, if the trans goes out for 2-3 seconds and then pops back, that could be a problem...
Old 01-05-2007 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
One death out of how many sold?

meh.
That's still one too many.
Old 01-05-2007 | 05:03 PM
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Old 01-05-2007 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
One death out of how many sold?

meh.
i think for just coming out, that is 1 too many
Old 01-05-2007 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpin-tl
One death is just a start.


https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ighlight=camry
Old 01-05-2007 | 05:37 PM
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Well how do they know it was the transmission... did the driver tell them while she/he was on her death bed?

Im just hoping this is a fluke since most of us have family members who own camrys. (since we all asians)
Old 01-05-2007 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpin-tl
From NHTSA website at:

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...plain/results.

Lookup #10173766 at the following link
I don't think there was actually a death or injury associated with this complaint.

on the complaint webform on the nhtsa website, you can plug in any number you want.

since the description of the problem doesn't make mention of any accident on the date of the incident being reported, I think it's either an error or someone thought they were being clever (ie, the transmission "died").
Old 01-05-2007 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tankmonkey
I don't think there was actually a death or injury associated with this complaint.

on the complaint webform on the nhtsa website, you can plug in any number you want.

since the description of the problem doesn't make mention of any accident on the date of the incident being reported, I think it's either an error or someone thought they were being clever (ie, the transmission "died").

Smart man!

Plus the description says "COULD lead to an accident"... there is no mention of an accident. They even said they returning it to the dealer for repairs.

Reading owns us.
Old 01-05-2007 | 05:52 PM
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Well how do they know it was the transmission... did the driver tell them while she/he was on her death bed?

Im just hoping this is a fluke since most of us have family members who own camrys. (since we all asians)
This was just posted as well on the toyota forums in the same type of post

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I have a 2007 Camry SE V6, and I almost got rear ended two days ago.
I normally just have the once when cold 3rd-4th flare, which after it happens, the tranny works normally.
Two days ago (Wednesday 1/3/07), I was leaving home with my engine/tranny still cold, and it hadn't yet done the 3rd-4th shift.
I was at a "T" road stopped waiting to make a right turn.
To my left, the road curves and I can only see traffic coming for a short distance.
I began my right turn, and part way through my turn, a vehicle came around the curve.
To prevent possibly getting read ended, I "goosed" the gas pedal, and all that happened was the engine revved up, and the tranny just slipped for a few seconds until it grabbed.
It dawned on me at this moment that this COULD be dangerous.
The other driver must've had to slam on his brakes to keep from rear ending me, because at the next stop sign, I was in the left turn lane and he was to my right in the straight lane.
He honked his horn at me and flipped me off.
I didn't blame him, because he couldn't have known.
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Old 01-05-2007 | 05:53 PM
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Old 01-05-2007 | 06:05 PM
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Background: My oldest brother-in-law is an NVH engineer with over 20 years of experience. Meticulous would be an understatement to describe his nature. After working for three different OEM's he now leads a group of engineers at a tier 1 supplier.

In the recent past, he has adamantly purchased Fords since he worked for Ford. Now that he works at a supplier, he decided to open up to an Asian automobile.

I attempted on multiple occasions to pursuade him to purchase an Accord to replace his Taurus. He went with the '07 4cyl Camry and has regretted his decision ever since.

In his assessment, this transmission is faulty, dangerous and Toyota should issue a recall ASAP.
Old 01-05-2007 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
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Old 01-05-2007 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpin-tl
toyotanation.com
http://toyotanation.com/forum/t173399.html

Thanks for the direct link.
Old 01-05-2007 | 06:57 PM
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This is what happens when manufacturers try and jam too many gears into small transmissions. I'll take my 6spd manual ANY day of the week. A manual has never let me down. When it's breaking you KNOW it's breaking.

Toyota needs to issue a recall ASAP. IIRC Honda never issued a recall fast enough on their auto trans issue either.
Old 01-05-2007 | 07:05 PM
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Looks like Toyota should have followed Nissan's lead and went the CVT route.
Old 01-05-2007 | 07:49 PM
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maybe thats why honda has stuck with the 5 speed AT for now?
Old 01-05-2007 | 09:00 PM
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Looks like Toyota should have followed Nissan's lead and went the CVT route.
because CVT's are that much more reliable? What does this have to do with Toyota's choice to go with a regular auto tranny over a CVT? The 6spd auto in the Camry obviously has a design flaw that causes it to perform poorly. I would imagine a CVT with a design flaw would not perform any better.

Not to mention that the CVT is a relatively new technology thats still unproven in high horsepower applications.
Old 01-06-2007 | 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
One death out of how many sold?

meh.
Tell that to the family who lost that person in the crash.
Old 01-06-2007 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Donte99TL
Tell that to the family who lost that person in the crash.

Well it actually has to happen first.

Everyone said the same thing when the TL trannys were failing. "oh no wait till someone gets hurt then acura will listen"

Guess what, there still hasnt been any reports about accidents or deaths due to the tranny.
Old 01-06-2007 | 03:42 AM
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Someone unban 1SickLex quick, i want to see what his response is! He'd always be ragging on the old TLs for their transmission flaws, and acting like Toyota/Lexus is perfect in every way.

Well look what happened now MUAHahaha!

But seriously though, i hope noone gets hurt as a result.
Old 01-06-2007 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bgsm1th
The tranny in my CL-S failed going 80+ mph a few months back...pretty much just coasted to a stop

Although, if the trans goes out for 2-3 seconds and then pops back, that could be a problem...
You're lucky . . . . when my first one failed I was passing a truck at about 55. Car shifted by itself from 5th to 2nd and nearly threw me through the windshield. Second time I was going about 75 and same thing. If I was a casual observer of one of these cars w/o being a purchaser, I would never have bought it.
Old 01-06-2007 | 08:11 AM
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It sounds to us (me and my builder) like they didn't completely refill the transmission after the valve body was replaced. Low fluid (or filter detachment in some trannys) will cause problems in turns and any other time you get the fluid to slosh back and forth. The problem is that the pickup is run dry momentarily and you lose hydraulic pressure.

In any event - the valve body replacement doesn't sound like it did anything to fix the original problem...

Old 01-06-2007 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
One death out of how many sold?

meh.

That was a stupid comment. IMO
Old 01-06-2007 | 09:33 AM
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Is this auto tranny the same in all models, including the Hybrid? A friend of mine has the Hybrid...
Old 01-06-2007 | 01:34 PM
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Is this auto tranny the same in all models, including the Hybrid? A friend of mine has the Hybrid...
no, the hybrid doesnt use the 6AT. i think the camry and es350 share the same tranny. the IS and GS has a 6AT also but they havent had the same problems
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
Someone unban 1SickLex quick, i want to see what his response is! He'd always be ragging on the old TLs for their transmission flaws, and acting like Toyota/Lexus is perfect in every way.

Well look what happened now MUAHahaha!

But seriously though, i hope noone gets hurt as a result.
Oh he is already doing his bad deeds on clublexus.com. From deleteing the original topic in car chat because he said it was to bash Toyota, to having arguements against users where DaveGS4 had to step in AGAIN, and Dave always sides with 1sick even if he starts it because he said no argueing with the mods per others I have heard. He pulls his weight like crazy on there. The topic is open, and others are still jumping his fan boy attitude over there because of it.

Oh yea, and he bragged about Acuras problem in the trannys too heavily when it got mentioned and degraded Acura. He was like Toyota doesn't have a problem still. LOL!
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Originally Posted by pimpin-tl
Oh he is already doing his bad deeds on clublexus.com. From deleteing the original topic in car chat because he said it was to bash Toyota, to having arguements against users where DaveGS4 had to step in AGAIN, and Dave always sides with 1sick even if he starts it because he said no argueing with the mods per others I have heard. He pulls his weight like crazy on there. The topic is open, and others are still jumping his fan boy attitude over there because of it.

Oh yea, and he bragged about Acuras problem in the trannys too heavily when it got mentioned and degraded Acura. He was like Toyota doesn't have a problem still. LOL!
Did he delete the posts where DaveGS had to step in and check him? I'm reading the thread through right now and I don't see that part. I also don't see where they bash the TL. I did see this though

"1Sick, I agree with you that the report needs to be clarified. Something doesn't sound right. However, with all due respect, you really need to open up your eyes and your mind here. I'm as big a fan of Toyota as anyone, but this is really bad. Really bad."

Old 01-06-2007 | 02:52 PM
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1SICK has deleted a lot of his posts from the thread to protect himself. I actually saved the page at work on my computer there but not sure if it will come up if they been deleted or not.
Old 01-06-2007 | 03:13 PM
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I just remoted into my pc at work and it was updated with the current page damn.
Old 01-06-2007 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by fla-tls
It sounds to us (me and my builder) like they didn't completely refill the transmission after the valve body was replaced. Low fluid (or filter detachment in some trannys) will cause problems in turns and any other time you get the fluid to slosh back and forth. The problem is that the pickup is run dry momentarily and you lose hydraulic pressure.

In any event - the valve body replacement doesn't sound like it did anything to fix the original problem...

No, the valve body fix has worked for some people...just not everyone.

With that said, it's still a very small percentage of Camrys that are having transmission problems...4 and 6-cyl models. I know of quite a few people with the new Camry who are not having any issues whatsoever...

If I had to buy a car tomorrow, I'd still get a Camry V6.
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Originally Posted by SodaLuvr
No, the valve body fix has worked for some people...just not everyone.

With that said, it's still a very small percentage of Camrys that are having transmission problems...4 and 6-cyl models. I know of quite a few people with the new Camry who are not having any issues whatsoever...

If I had to buy a car tomorrow, I'd still get a Camry V6.
Old 01-06-2007 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by phile
That's still one too many.


One death, or 100 deaths. If the tranny does have a problem that may repeat in other cars then it's just as bad as the Honda Tranny problem.
Old 01-06-2007 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SodaLuvr
No, the valve body fix has worked for some people...just not everyone.

With that said, it's still a very small percentage of Camrys that are having transmission problems...4 and 6-cyl models. I know of quite a few people with the new Camry who are not having any issues whatsoever...

If I had to buy a car tomorrow, I'd still get a Camry V6.
It's actually most of them having the problem. But its more of if the people will notice it or not.
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Originally Posted by pimpin-tl
It's actually most of them having the problem. But its more of if the people will notice it or not.


How come you havent replied to that thread to let them know that no one actually died.


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