[VIDEO] G35C vs 350Z vs M3 SMG in da twisties!
06-05-2003, 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by Tom2
Who has the record for being banned and coming back with another user name the most times?
Just wondering
Who has the record for being banned and coming back with another user name the most times?
Just wondering
I don't know what he's trying to prove with the bans? "Hey look, I'm a moderator, and I can make you re-register!"
06-05-2003, 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by torquey
you know I would provide alternate links for the video, but since the moderators around here, only know how to ban me for no reason(they banned torquie just for posting the video in the first place),, I don't know that I'm in the mood!
you know I would provide alternate links for the video, but since the moderators around here, only know how to ban me for no reason(they banned torquie just for posting the video in the first place),
, I don't know that I'm in the mood!
You're supposed to be banned, i.e. you're NOT supposed to be posting here.
What part of BANNED do you not understand?
06-05-2003, 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by Scrib
NEWS FLASH!!!
You're supposed to be banned, i.e. you're NOT supposed to be posting here.
What part of BANNED do you not understand?
NEWS FLASH!!!
You're supposed to be banned, i.e. you're NOT supposed to be posting here.
What part of BANNED do you not understand?
06-05-2003, 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by torquey
hey scrib! thanks for d/l and enjoying the "banned" trolls, video! I hope you saved it on your computer, after enjoying watching!
hey scrib! thanks for d/l and enjoying the "banned" trolls, video! I hope you saved it on your computer, after enjoying watching!
06-05-2003, 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by Scrib
Actually dipass, I didn't get it from the link your banned ass posted. Other forums have the same video mentioned.
Actually dipass, I didn't get it from the link your banned ass posted. Other forums have the same video mentioned.
QUIT being an E-thug!
06-06-2003, 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by torquey
scrib, man, why ya gonna hate like that and call me a dipass?
scrib, man, why ya gonna hate like that and call me a dipass?
06-06-2003, 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by r10apple
I've seen this article...It just doesn't make sense...The acceleration numbers are GROSSLY different, the skid pads are largely the same and the braking is largely the same...On a larger track, the M3 with a competent driver should eat the Z up...
I've seen this article...It just doesn't make sense...The acceleration numbers are GROSSLY different, the skid pads are largely the same and the braking is largely the same...On a larger track, the M3 with a competent driver should eat the Z up...
In the real world, there's more to racing than accleration/braking/skid pad numbers.
But we'll take your word on it, instead of guys that actually tested them on a track
06-06-2003, 01:57 PM
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Anyone who watched that video and thinks the M3 driver wasn't going all-out is a fool.
Some of you guys will say anything to hate on the Z or G. Face it, those cars are competitive with an e46 M3. BTW, I still think my e36 M3 was a better handler than my e46 M3.
Some of you guys will say anything to hate on the Z or G. Face it, those cars are competitive with an e46 M3. BTW, I still think my e36 M3 was a better handler than my e46 M3.
06-06-2003, 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Uhh, it's a SMG M3, not a true manual.
Uhh, it's a SMG M3, not a true manual.
Do you think a manual M3 would have quicker lap times?
06-06-2003, 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by Tom2
Anyone who watched that video and thinks the M3 driver wasn't going all-out is a fool.
Some of you guys will say anything to hate on the Z or G. Face it, those cars are competitive with an e46 M3. BTW, I still think my e36 M3 was a better handler than my e46 M3.
Anyone who watched that video and thinks the M3 driver wasn't going all-out is a fool.
Some of you guys will say anything to hate on the Z or G. Face it, those cars are competitive with an e46 M3. BTW, I still think my e36 M3 was a better handler than my e46 M3.
This is not meant to take away from the G or Z, they are fine vehicles. But the whole setup was to show the G primarily. In fact it seemed to take a little away from the Z which in all cases should be slightly ahead of the G. The M3 was there as a symbol only for the exhibition.
06-06-2003, 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by Tom2
Anyone who watched that video and thinks the M3 driver wasn't going all-out is a fool.
Some of you guys will say anything to hate on the Z or G. Face it, those cars are competitive with an e46 M3. BTW, I still think my e36 M3 was a better handler than my e46 M3.
Anyone who watched that video and thinks the M3 driver wasn't going all-out is a fool.
Some of you guys will say anything to hate on the Z or G. Face it, those cars are competitive with an e46 M3. BTW, I still think my e36 M3 was a better handler than my e46 M3.
Doc
06-06-2003, 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by scalbert
Please elaborate here; I am really curious as to how you KNOW the M3 was going all out?? In contrast to your opinion, why would they add a front mounted camera only to the car with the most power and the benchmark which they were trying to compare? If they wanted to be equal and not have a marketing campaign they would have equipped all with front mount cameras so that they would always have footage from a trailing vehicle.
This is not meant to take away from the G or Z, they are fine vehicles. But the whole setup was to show the G primarily. In fact it seemed to take a little away from the Z which in all cases should be slightly ahead of the G. The M3 was there as a symbol only for the exhibition.
Please elaborate here; I am really curious as to how you KNOW the M3 was going all out?? In contrast to your opinion, why would they add a front mounted camera only to the car with the most power and the benchmark which they were trying to compare? If they wanted to be equal and not have a marketing campaign they would have equipped all with front mount cameras so that they would always have footage from a trailing vehicle.
This is not meant to take away from the G or Z, they are fine vehicles. But the whole setup was to show the G primarily. In fact it seemed to take a little away from the Z which in all cases should be slightly ahead of the G. The M3 was there as a symbol only for the exhibition.
Do you really believe the M3 was there just to film the other cars?
Did you notice that ALL 3 cars had in-car cameras? No matter what the order, they would still have footage thru the windshields.Why is it so hard to believe that the Z/G are as capable on a road course as the M3? Go read the Road and Track article that was posted earlier in this thread. In that test, the Z beat the M3 on that particular track.
Sorry, but those 3 cars ARE in fact competitive with one another.
06-06-2003, 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by DrRick
oh and lets not take into account the fact that they were 3 different drivers. do you know which had the most ability?
oh and lets not take into account the fact that they were 3 different drivers. do you know which had the most ability?
That's why the video proves nothing....it just suggests that the cars are competitive.
06-06-2003, 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by DrRick
[B]what are you talking about???? the M3 passed them so obviously he was going all out. maybe you dont understand anything but racing in a straight line, but when you race on a circuit, you cant just blow by someone. you have to set them up and think about your passes. catching someone is one thing, passing them is another. the Z is faster than the G. PERIOD. but the M was faster than them both. you can tell that the M was more powerful by the way it was eating them both on the straights. as an owner of a G, i know that the car is competitive with the Z. but an E46 M.........uhhh no.
Doc
[B]what are you talking about???? the M3 passed them so obviously he was going all out. maybe you dont understand anything but racing in a straight line, but when you race on a circuit, you cant just blow by someone. you have to set them up and think about your passes. catching someone is one thing, passing them is another. the Z is faster than the G. PERIOD. but the M was faster than them both. you can tell that the M was more powerful by the way it was eating them both on the straights. as an owner of a G, i know that the car is competitive with the Z. but an E46 M.........uhhh no.
Doc
Clearly, they are BOTH competitive with the M3. And if the Z is faster than the G, why didn't it manage to overtake the G? You have some funny logic? As a G owner, you should be aware of the fact that the G comes with MUCH better stock tires than the Z. I believe they were all running stock tires as well. Is this the basis for your Z/G comparison?
06-06-2003, 03:00 PM
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Do you think a manual M3 would have quicker lap times
BTW, I still think my e36 M3 was a better handler than my e46 M3.
And I don't think the video was trying to prove anything. It's the people posting here trying to prove something.
06-06-2003, 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Yup. Can't say I've driven one but all the articles I've read say they prefer the manual. .
Yup. Can't say I've driven one but all the articles I've read say they prefer the manual. .
06-06-2003, 03:13 PM
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i don't think best motoring makes pretend movies, they wouldn't have bothered giving the z or g a head start in the beginning if all they planned on doing was having the m3 as a 'video car'.
the z is a faster car than the g, but not so much that it could overcome that initial headstart the g had.
there was a similiar type vid between a vette and lotus going around the nurburgring, basically the same situation. in the turns, both cars were right on eachothers asses with the lotus almost passing at times until finally, at the ending straighaway the vette left the lotus way behind.
the z is a faster car than the g, but not so much that it could overcome that initial headstart the g had.
there was a similiar type vid between a vette and lotus going around the nurburgring, basically the same situation. in the turns, both cars were right on eachothers asses with the lotus almost passing at times until finally, at the ending straighaway the vette left the lotus way behind.
06-06-2003, 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by Tom2
Scalbert, did you actually watch the video? It was pretty apparent that the M3 was doing a fair amount of drifting. Did you watch where the M3 driver attempted to pass the Z, but had to pull back because of the upcoming corner?
Do you really believe the M3 was there just to film the other cars? Did you notice that ALL 3 cars had in-car cameras? No matter what the order, they would still have footage thru the windshields.
Why is it so hard to believe that the Z/G are as capable on a road course as the M3? Go read the Road and Track article that was posted earlier in this thread. In that test, the Z beat the M3 on that particular track.
Scalbert, did you actually watch the video? It was pretty apparent that the M3 was doing a fair amount of drifting. Did you watch where the M3 driver attempted to pass the Z, but had to pull back because of the upcoming corner?
Do you really believe the M3 was there just to film the other cars?
Did you notice that ALL 3 cars had in-car cameras? No matter what the order, they would still have footage thru the windshields.Why is it so hard to believe that the Z/G are as capable on a road course as the M3? Go read the Road and Track article that was posted earlier in this thread. In that test, the Z beat the M3 on that particular track.
I could care less which car is superior overall, although IMO the M3 would most likely be victorious if this were a real race. The video was done to showcase the ability of the G to hang with an M3. To do so they gave an advantage to the G by putting it out front. They probably did this to help the power deficit. Had they put the M3 up front or lined it up evenly it would have been out front the entire way and put distance between its self and the other two cars.
I too was impressed with the capability of the G and it seemed to be nearly equal through the turns, but not quite 100%. It was not able to put distance entering and midway through the turn even with a better line taken. But regardless, it was still impressive.
06-06-2003, 03:36 PM
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I am saying this again. The M3 is HOLDING BACK. They say this in the video. I can read the subtitle.
Note that only the M3 has a camera mounted in the front bumper.
The video is about the Skyline and the Z. The M3 is brought in just for reference.
Note that only the M3 has a camera mounted in the front bumper.
The video is about the Skyline and the Z. The M3 is brought in just for reference.
06-06-2003, 06:23 PM
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the guys on freshalloy already translated the video, 1st post, obviously the m3 is a faster car on the straights and outpowers both cars, it was a comparison of handling, the m3 driver sums it up:
[N] Things are going to be great.
The M3 comes with new technology like the SMG,
and well over 300 hp
I hope Japanese cars can make cars with more power as well.
Everyone must have noticed the difference on the straights
The BMW has overwhelming advantage on straights
However, around corners, all three cars are pretty much equals
[N] Things are going to be great.
The M3 comes with new technology like the SMG,
and well over 300 hp
I hope Japanese cars can make cars with more power as well.
Everyone must have noticed the difference on the straights
The BMW has overwhelming advantage on straights
However, around corners, all three cars are pretty much equals
post video again please
06-06-2003, 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by Tom2
Do you think a manual M3 would have quicker lap times?
Do you think a manual M3 would have quicker lap times?
06-07-2003, 06:13 AM
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I have a real stupid question. If they M3 was there just for filming purposes (as it appears). Then why go through the trouble of picking the heaviest model and putting crappy tires on it, if it's not trying to compete in the first place.?
06-08-2003, 07:13 PM
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Found a new link: http://web.njit.edu/~aslam/g35/g35zm3.mpg
06-08-2003, 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
Found a new link: http://web.njit.edu/~aslam/g35/g35zm3.mpg
Found a new link: http://web.njit.edu/~aslam/g35/g35zm3.mpg
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