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Old 03-12-2002 | 05:19 PM
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$50,000 vw

and it's a 12 cylinder
http://www.edmunds.com/news/autoshow...4/page004.html
Old 03-12-2002 | 05:43 PM
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The V12 isn't going to be $50k.....more like $75k- the Phaeton is going to be some VW.
Old 03-12-2002 | 05:49 PM
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I do not understand VW. VW owns Audi..

VW makes this car now.. so the customer would have to chose between this 12-Cylinder Phaeton VW and Audi A8?

I am now

BTW, I saw a new white 4.2 V-8 A6! It was very nice.
Old 03-12-2002 | 05:50 PM
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It would make a better Audi, wouldn't it?
Old 03-12-2002 | 05:52 PM
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i like but i'd never buy a vw.
Old 03-12-2002 | 06:05 PM
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No thanks.:thumbsdn:
Old 03-12-2002 | 06:12 PM
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$50, 000 for a VW...I'll pass.:thumbsdn:
Old 03-12-2002 | 06:17 PM
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Just for yalls info it a W-12 three rows of 4 instead of two rows of 6. Pioneered by bugati in the W18.
Old 03-12-2002 | 06:36 PM
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M5 please.
Old 03-12-2002 | 06:41 PM
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My understanding is that the W-16 will be in a "new" Bugati rated 650 hp!
Old 03-12-2002 | 06:41 PM
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is it a W12 0r V12??
Old 03-12-2002 | 07:33 PM
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hmm built in germany... really nice looking....great car im sure...but it's err...a VW. I can tell you right now the resale on that thing is gonna be abissmal. I'm having flashbacks to the VW Corrado and Subaru SVX failures. Diff. company, but this is the same kind of 'brilliant' thinking that allowed the Aztec to actually reach production. Idiots.:shakehd:
Old 03-12-2002 | 11:18 PM
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Hey. For those of you who think our Cl/tl's have issues, u guys should head on over 2 ur local VW dealership's service dept. and check whats going on. A friend of mine works at the service dept. at VW and she processes the bills, work order etc. and constantly tells me electrical problems plaguing quite a few passats/jettas/golf/bettles. Some of these glitches have made the car inoperable just 1 week after being picked up from delivery. I'm not saying that evey one of the aforementioned cars are having problems so don't start flaming me now, but quite a few. Also, audis are notorious 4 electrical problems.

Recently, I read somewhere that mercedes conducted an internal study and found that some of their products were up 2 par quailty wise w/ Gm's opel division. Even in another study, jd powers i think, the # of problem areas in mercedes cars & trucks has gone up instead of down from 5-8 yrs ago.

Lastly, even BMW's have had some problems. The E46 m3 has had some issues and quite a few x5's have had issues 2.

I'm not trying 2 start a propoganda war or n e thing but if this is what german engineering excellence is, then I'll humbly reject and look at either a lexus/infiniti/acura. Good day folks.
Old 03-12-2002 | 11:24 PM
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RE: the phaeton

If it depreciates as bad as everyone say it will, maybe I'll have my dad pick up a used W8 one, but only if Vw's claims of improved build quality are tru.
Old 03-13-2002 | 12:18 AM
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only people that buy vw's are women. and most women will not spend 50g's on a v12 duh~ if u want to sell that thing they better put a audi badge
Old 03-13-2002 | 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by unsure
Hey. For those of you who think our Cl/tl's have issues, u guys should head on over 2 ur local VW dealership's service dept. and check whats going on. A friend of mine works at the service dept. at VW and she processes the bills, work order etc. and constantly tells me electrical problems plaguing quite a few passats/jettas/golf/bettles. Some of these glitches have made the car inoperable just 1 week after being picked up from delivery. I'm not saying that evey one of the aforementioned cars are having problems so don't start flaming me now, but quite a few. Also, audis are notorious 4 electrical problems.

Recently, I read somewhere that mercedes conducted an internal study and found that some of their products were up 2 par quailty wise w/ Gm's opel division. Even in another study, jd powers i think, the # of problem areas in mercedes cars & trucks has gone up instead of down from 5-8 yrs ago.

Lastly, even BMW's have had some problems. The E46 m3 has had some issues and quite a few x5's have had issues 2.

I'm not trying 2 start a propoganda war or n e thing but if this is what german engineering excellence is, then I'll humbly reject and look at either a lexus/infiniti/acura. Good day folks.
You couldn't be more on the mark about VW /AUDI electrical probs. My friend bought a 2001 A4 and the day she drove it home and parked it, it wouldnt turn on again. The electrical system completely failed. They ended up giving her her money back and she bought a BMW. My other friend's G/F drives a 99 VW cabrio. Nothing but electrical probs since she bought it. It was kinda funny; the wipers would come on automatically every once and a while she was driving, and she couldn't turn them off. I don't have first hand experience with this, but I also heard the A6 is having major problems with it's fuel guage leaving tons of people stuck on the side of the road; here's the link:
http://www.audiworld.com/news/00/062700/content.shtml
Thinking of buying an Audi/VW?....Caveat Emptor...
Old 03-13-2002 | 02:20 AM
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Nice car...but sounds like they named it after a Transformer or something...
Old 03-13-2002 | 04:41 AM
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Originally posted by dustbuster4
My understanding is that the W-16 will be in a "new" Bugati rated 650 hp!
W16 Quad Turbo- 987HP
Old 03-13-2002 | 04:43 AM
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
VW makes this car now.. so the customer would have to chose between this 12-Cylinder Phaeton VW and Audi A8?
A8 will have a W12 option as well.
Old 03-13-2002 | 07:54 AM
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I read somewhere, that Honda has been working on a 3.0 Liter V10 engine for the consumer market, that weights 20lbs less than than the 3.2. This thing is going to be a horsepower to liter beast! If it makes it to market, it will prolly show in the NSX first.
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