Pix from Infected Mushroom (srika's club pics thread)
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Pix from Infected Mushroom (srika's club pics thread)
They let me take the D70 into the club last night. Here is a teaser to start it off. This was my first time shooting in a club setting with the D70, did better than I thought I would. Although, it needed help. The biggest enemy was noise. So bad that I had to use a anti-noise program. I am quite sure I still don't have the settings optimal, I played around with lots of options and found the best option to be manual mode A, with "rear" flash mode. I'll just have to keep playing with it until I find the best setting - next time I am going to try turning down the ISO.. should have tried that this time but it escaped me. I wish it was easier to assess the noise level of the pics while taking the pictures - is there a way?
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What's the best anti-noise program that you recommend?
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holy shit thats a great pic. since it was a club im sure it was pretty dark right?!!? wow thats amazing
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btw you will see a comparison of that same shot w/ 3 lighting levels - with strobes, with some lights, and without...
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Its pretty easy to see which shots have the strobes on - they are the really bright ones. The last 3 pics are what I described above - same scene, different lighting.
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0056_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0058_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0230_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0437_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0485_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0491_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0496_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0529_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0587_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0596_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0655_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0689_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0763_f.jpg)
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minimal lights
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0823_f.jpg)
some strobe
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0820_f.jpg)
max strobes
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0056_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0058_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0230_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0437_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0485_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0491_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0496_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0529_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0587_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0596_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0655_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0689_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0763_f.jpg)
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0764_f.jpg)
minimal lights
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0823_f.jpg)
some strobe
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0820_f.jpg)
max strobes
![](http://srika.com/img/090906_im_vision/DSC_0826_f.jpg)
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It's one of the biggest clubs in Chicago - but its spread out - this area is the upper room, and its 4 floors, but the footprint of this individual area is considerably smaller than, say, Space in Miami. There are 2 other more "mainstream" clubs inside the same complex, which I pretty much never go to. From outside, the building kinda looks like a castle.
Incidentally though, there has been a movement towards seeing the bigger DJ's in small very intimate venues - this isn't one of them. Friday night we had James Zabiela @ Spybar, which is VERY small... I think I kinda rather prefer seeing them in bigger clubs like this, just because of the greater space.
Incidentally though, there has been a movement towards seeing the bigger DJ's in small very intimate venues - this isn't one of them. Friday night we had James Zabiela @ Spybar, which is VERY small... I think I kinda rather prefer seeing them in bigger clubs like this, just because of the greater space.
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lmao, that looks whack, and wow man, that first picture at the top, the right dancer looks like a man -___-;;
Anyhoo. Great pictures =P
Anyhoo. Great pictures =P
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Question for the photo ppl - would I get lower noise with a better camera? say, a D200 or a 30D, 5D, etc? how about a D2x? I mean, would it be easier to take non-noisy pics with those cameras? This might be an obvious question, but I'm asking because I don't know.
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For lower noise at high ISO, you want to go with a Canon FF but that's much more expensive than your D70.
I really can't see anything about the pictures you posted though that say you should jump to a different setup.
I've got a D200 and my brother has a D2X - they have pretty similar noise characteristics form what I've seen of pictures from each.
I really can't see anything about the pictures you posted though that say you should jump to a different setup.
I've got a D200 and my brother has a D2X - they have pretty similar noise characteristics form what I've seen of pictures from each.
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what's Canon FF?
well the pix I posted are after post-processing to remove noise... is that a normal step for taking pix like these? is there any camera where I wouldn't have to use a de-noiser?
well the pix I posted are after post-processing to remove noise... is that a normal step for taking pix like these? is there any camera where I wouldn't have to use a de-noiser?
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Originally Posted by srika
what's Canon FF?
well the pix I posted are after post-processing to remove noise... is that a normal step for taking pix like these? is there any camera where I wouldn't have to use a de-noiser?
well the pix I posted are after post-processing to remove noise... is that a normal step for taking pix like these? is there any camera where I wouldn't have to use a de-noiser?
To answer your earlier question, if you are now using a compact camera, then yes, moving to one of the cameras you listed will result in better high ISO performance. The sensors, and photosites, in SLR's are larger, and less subject to artifacting, etc.
FWIW, Canon CMOS sensors generally give better high ISO performance than Nikon's CCD sensors, but both companies make outstanding cameras. Speaking from experience, Canon's are buttery smooth up to ISO 1600, and useable at ISO 3200.
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damn... I want a Canon FF !!!! ![Wish](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wish.gif)
can you imagine a 1Ds Mark II!?!?!? that would be ridiculous.
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can you imagine a 1Ds Mark II!?!?!? that would be ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by srika
damn... I want a Canon FF !!!! ![Wish](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wish.gif)
can you imagine a 1Ds Mark II!?!?!? that would be ridiculous.
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can you imagine a 1Ds Mark II!?!?!? that would be ridiculous.
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ok ok.. actually I just read up on it and it looks to be a bit of overkill..... LOL!
so you are saying you think I will get better pix with the 30D, compared to the D70.
so you are saying you think I will get better pix with the 30D, compared to the D70.
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Originally Posted by srika
ok ok.. actually I just read up on it and it looks to be a bit of overkill..... LOL!
so you are saying you think I will get better pix with the 30D, compared to the D70.
so you are saying you think I will get better pix with the 30D, compared to the D70.
But both companies offer excellent SLR's, as does Olympus and others. You just have to define your usage parameters and go from there. Maybe Dan can give even more insight.
BTW, I like your pics in this thread. That looks like a cool place to party.
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Great pics! I love Infected Mushroom.
I liked the g-man in the white suit on the upper rails on this pic![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Kinda OT but the "big names in small clubs" is a really awesome thing. When I lived in Rochester in the late 90s we'd get big DJs in pretty small venues and the experience is completely different from big clubs... It's fantastic.
I liked the g-man in the white suit on the upper rails on this pic
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Kinda OT but the "big names in small clubs" is a really awesome thing. When I lived in Rochester in the late 90s we'd get big DJs in pretty small venues and the experience is completely different from big clubs... It's fantastic.
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Not necessarily. The D70 is excellent, the 30D is much newer. I'm just saying that most people, and reviewers, report better high ISO performance with Canon DSLR's than with Nikon's. So if you do a lot of shooting in environments like the one in the pics you posted here, you might be happier with Canon, because you'd be using higher ISO settings more often. Like I said, my 20D up to ISO 1600 offers excellent image quality. In my film days, I never would have considered shooting film at that high of an ISO setting.
But both companies offer excellent SLR's, as does Olympus and others. You just have to define your usage parameters and go from there. Maybe Dan can give even more insight.
BTW, I like your pics in this thread. That looks like a cool place to party.![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
But both companies offer excellent SLR's, as does Olympus and others. You just have to define your usage parameters and go from there. Maybe Dan can give even more insight.
BTW, I like your pics in this thread. That looks like a cool place to party.
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Here are some highlights from the above site:
http://johnnymonsoon.com/gallery/lscaugust/A8C8696
http://johnnymonsoon.com/gallery/lscaugust/A8C9747
http://johnnymonsoon.com/gallery/lscaugust/A8C9799
http://johnnymonsoon.com/gallery/lscaugust/A8C9293
that's club photography!
Some details (from the first pic): 1D Mark II, shutter 1/32 sec, F/2.8, exposure 1/30 sec, ISO 3200 (
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Originally Posted by srika
ISO 3200 (
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Great pics! I love Infected Mushroom.
I liked the g-man in the white suit on the upper rails on this pic![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Kinda OT but the "big names in small clubs" is a really awesome thing. When I lived in Rochester in the late 90s we'd get big DJs in pretty small venues and the experience is completely different from big clubs... It's fantastic.
I liked the g-man in the white suit on the upper rails on this pic
![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Kinda OT but the "big names in small clubs" is a really awesome thing. When I lived in Rochester in the late 90s we'd get big DJs in pretty small venues and the experience is completely different from big clubs... It's fantastic.
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oh yeah the full gallery of Infected Mushroom pix is here:
http://www.delobbo.com/gallery2/v/09...shroom_vision/
http://www.delobbo.com/gallery2/v/09...shroom_vision/
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Originally Posted by srika
Ok. I have to say though after reading your input on the matter and reading more about it at various sites, I think the choice for me is Canon. So I think I will be making efforts to get probably a 5D. I would love to be able to take pics even close to the ones at this site - LOVE these pics. The color on them is amazing - I wonder what kind of post-processing went into them, if any. I think the 5D would get close?
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World's smallest and lightest full-frame digital SLR* with a 12.8 Megapixel CMOS Sensor and superb image quality - The EOS 5D's full-frame CMOS sensor records 4,368 x 2,912 pixels-that's 12.8 Megapixels, larger than many other companies' top-of-the-line sensors. The same size as a 35mm image on a traditional camera, the sensor operates without a conversion factor. This is perfect for taking advantage of the spectacular optics in Canon's L-series, and will be a joy for wide-angle enthusiasts who can make the most of their wide-angle lenses. This new CMOS sensor, designed in-house by Canon, provides smooth, high-resolution images similar to the EOS-1Ds Mark II but in a more compact body. Two automatic noise reduction features maximize the effectiveness of the EOS 5D's on-chip noise reduction. Noise reduction can be activated when noise is detected or it will simply come into play on any exposure of 1 second or longer.
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I am totaly ignant with respect to photography so indulge me... What is "noise" in a picture? Maybe a pic with alot of it and the same pic with none? Thanks.
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I'm no expert, but the pics you took look darn good. The ones you linked to do not seem all that much better. Most of the difference comes down to composition and probably getting to know your equipment better. Your pics are mostly crowd shots, whereas the linked pics are mostly portraits with background. You'll also notice that in the linked pics, there is still quite a bit of noice - mostly in the backgrounds - because of the low light. :halfacent:
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
I am totaly ignant with respect to photography so indulge me... What is "noise" in a picture? Maybe a pic with alot of it and the same pic with none? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by moeronn
I'm no expert, but the pics you took look darn good. The ones you linked to do not seem all that much better. Most of the difference comes down to composition and probably getting to know your equipment better. Your pics are mostly crowd shots, whereas the linked pics are mostly portraits with background. You'll also notice that in the linked pics, there is still quite a bit of noice - mostly in the backgrounds - because of the low light. :halfacent:
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well I've pretty much given up on any thoughts of getting the 5D... I definitely would not want to get a stellar body - but not be able to make the most out of it by having to settle for a mediocre lens.
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/5d_pg7.html
so I think I will consider the new Rebel XTi, the 30D, or the D80.. but I really kind of feel like I wanna go Canon.
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/5d_pg7.html
To realize the best that the 5D is capable of delivering, you'll need Canon's professional L-series lenses, whose total cost may exceed that of the camera body.
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Thanks. I would love to pick up the new Canon Rebel 10mp. Any thoughts on a good general lens for it (I read that the "kit" lenses with the Rebels are not so great)?
I need a good intro book on photography to guide me, as well.
I need a good intro book on photography to guide me, as well.
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Thanks. I would love to pick up the new Canon Rebel 10mp. Any thoughts on a good general lens for it (I read that the "kit" lenses with the Rebels are not so great)?
I need a good intro book on photography to guide me, as well.
I need a good intro book on photography to guide me, as well.
The kit lens is actually pretty good. It doesn't have the best build quality in the world, but optically it's fine. For beginners, there are a thousand other things to screw up an image before the lens becomes a limiting factor.
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ok... after reading for a while, I feel like I should still keep the 5D in mind. And, consider a lens such as this one:
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...9&modelid=8503
what do you guys think?
or even this:
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...&modelid=11924
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...9&modelid=8503
what do you guys think?
or even this:
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...&modelid=11924
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Originally Posted by srika
well I've pretty much given up on any thoughts of getting the 5D... I definitely would not want to get a stellar body - but not be able to make the most out of it by having to settle for a mediocre lens.
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/5d_pg7.html
so I think I will consider the new Rebel XTi, the 30D, or the D80.. but I really kind of feel like I wanna go Canon.
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/5d_pg7.html
so I think I will consider the new Rebel XTi, the 30D, or the D80.. but I really kind of feel like I wanna go Canon.
Billiam just grabbed a 5D, so he would be the best to answer any specific questions...
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Originally Posted by srika
ok... after reading for a while, I feel like I should still keep the 5D in mind. And, consider a lens such as this one:
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...9&modelid=8503
what do you guys think?
or even this:
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...&modelid=11924
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...9&modelid=8503
what do you guys think?
or even this:
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...&modelid=11924
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
The 5D and 1DsMKII are the undisputed leaders in low noise, high-ISO performance. The comment on lenses is common to all bodies, but edge sharpness can be a problem for cheap wide and standard lenses on full-frame bodies. If a 5D is a 10/10 for noise performance, a 30D is a 9/10. A 30D with a good lens and a nice flash would probably be a better bang for your buck than a 5D with a cheap lens.
Billiam just grabbed a 5D, so he would be the best to answer any specific questions...
Billiam just grabbed a 5D, so he would be the best to answer any specific questions...
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Dan I hear you on the bang for a buck from the 30D - I think I will have to decide between that and whether I want to go for the 5D. It's quite a difference, all things said and done - given that I would have to get a flash, along with the higher price of the body.
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Originally Posted by srika
he did!??! that fool.. I know he had posted a link about it sometime ago. Billiam what's the word? mind giving us a review of that beast?? pix would be nice too
Although I've seen enough pix at dpreview to convince me of its quality.
Dan I hear you on the bang for a buck from the 30D - I think I will have to decide between that and whether I want to go for the 5D. It's quite a difference, all things said and done - given that I would have to get a flash, along with the higher price of the body.
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Dan I hear you on the bang for a buck from the 30D - I think I will have to decide between that and whether I want to go for the 5D. It's quite a difference, all things said and done - given that I would have to get a flash, along with the higher price of the body.
You might want to look a fast wide prime when you want to shoot with available light.
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