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Old 08-21-2016, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mdkxtreme
Yea same here. The only time I really need the RAW is when I need to fix the exposure. But other than that Fuji's JPEG comes out really good.

My only gripe about Fuji lens' so far is how easily the aperture ring moves. I would set it, stow the camera away, and when I take the camera out I would accidentally move the aperture ring to a different setting. I've made it a habit to check what F stop I'm at through the view finder now.
Hmmm. my 16-55, and 50-140 have nice tight clickey feeling aperture rings.

But I would suggest a small piece of camera tape. Set your aperture and lock it tape. Cine Lenses have smooth free turning aperture rings, and if its mission critical on certain shots, thats what we do.
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I don't find it an issue. They only really turn when you grab it by the lens.
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Someone is selling a rokinon 8mm X Mount for $200....worth it?
Old 08-21-2016, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Someone is selling a rokinon 8mm X Mount for $200....worth it?
used? I think that's about the going price (or maybe tad too high)
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Originally Posted by is300eater
used? I think that's about the going price (or maybe tad too high)
Used. New is $300...the Samyang twin is $260 on amazon.

I would most likely offer $160 and see what he counters.

But is it a good lens.
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Old 08-22-2016, 09:20 AM
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It is if you like fisheye. Definitely a different perspective on things but not my style. I personally would pass just because I wouldn't enjoy using it, not because it isn't a good lens (which it is).
Old 08-22-2016, 10:26 AM
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Fish eyes can be fun. But yeah wanted to know if it was optically good. Sounds like it is. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Fish eyes can be fun. But yeah wanted to know if it was optically good. Sounds like it is. Thanks.
As with any Roki lens, there is a good amount of sample variation. Just something to keep in mind.
Old 08-24-2016, 09:53 PM
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Fuji 10-24 for $630....grab it?
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Fuji 10-24 for $630....grab it?
What are you mainly using it for?
Old 08-24-2016, 10:12 PM
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Its a good price, Not many on the used market from what've seen.
Old 08-24-2016, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mdkxtreme
What are you mainly using it for?
I tend to shoot wide and long...not much in the mid-range, even though I did get a 16-55 to try this time around. I use it for all sorts of things.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I tend to shoot wide and long...not much in the mid-range, even though I did get a 16-55 to try this time around. I use it for all sorts of things.
The 10-24 was actually the lens I was going to get because I like to shoot wide as well. But I ended up getting the 16mm 1.4 instead because of how fast it is. If you don't care for the 1.4 then that's about the price I've seen it going for when I was shopping for the 10-24.
Old 08-24-2016, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mdkxtreme
The 10-24 was actually the lens I was going to get because I like to shoot wide as well. But I ended up getting the 16mm 1.4 instead because of how fast it is. If you don't care for the 1.4 then that's about the price I've seen it going for when I was shopping for the 10-24.
I'm conflicted because I like the choice of range with the zooms, and I read a lot of comparisons and its pretty damn close to the primes in edge sharpness.
I don't like that the zoom is a 4, but the OIS will make up for that, especially since its so wide.

I don't really WANT to deal with a ton of primes this time around...but I feel like I should end up with one or two at some point to take advantage of the compact size.

I was going to get the 8mm rokinon someone is selling on CL, but he turned out to be a douche so I corrected his condescending inaccuracies and bailed. And this popped up. Even with the Fuji rebates going on right now, $630 seems to be a good price.

a 1.4 would be great but I;d probably end up going for the 14 prime.

there is also the rumor of a 8-16 2.8 zoom...so should I just be patient and not jump the gun on this shit...
Old 08-25-2016, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
there is also the rumor of a 8-16 2.8 zoom...so should I just be patient and not jump the gun on this shit...
Wow if that is true I might just sell the 16mm for it.
Old 08-25-2016, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by mdkxtreme
Wow if that is true I might just sell the 16mm for it.
The question is when would they announce it...and a lens that wide and fast is sure to be at LEAST $1600-2000. My guess.
Old 08-25-2016, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
The question is when would they announce it...and a lens that wide and fast is sure to be at LEAST $1600-2000. My guess.
You may be right about the price, but I'm hopeful Fuji stays Fuji, and what I mean about that is they seem to provide some very affordable lenses (eg 56mm 1.2 retailing at $1k with average prices going for $800 new).
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Fuji just announced the 23mm f2 wr lens
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I saw that.

Now its like. Do I get THAT lens or get the 10-24???
Old 08-25-2016, 03:03 PM
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For a always on camera lens, that 23/f2 is going to be really sweet. But it can't 10-22mm.
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But it can't what????
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Sound likes it can't EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM.
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But it can't what????
probably means 10-24 it. lol

but i have the 23mm 1.4 and i love that lens. i dont even use my 35mm 1.4 which i should sell.
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I would never use a 35 as I barely ever shot a 50mm on my Nikon. And I have the 16-55 if I need it


so. What say you guys?

10-24

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23 f2
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Is 23mm wide enough for you though? I personally don't consider 23mm to be wide (on a crop sensor).
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I would never use a 35 as I barely ever shot a 50mm on my Nikon. And I have the 16-55 if I need it


so. What say you guys?

10-24

or

23 f2
well imo, i think10-24 for you since you do like to take pictures of your kids and the zoom will help out when in tight spots., but if you did more night photography then i would think the extra 2 stops would be more beneficial.
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Originally Posted by mdkxtreme
Is 23mm wide enough for you though? I personally don't consider 23mm to be wide (on a crop sensor).
its basically a 35mm FF. So still wide. But not wiiiide.
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UWA lenses are fun, as long as they are worthy in terms of corners. I normally don't care about corner sharpness with portrait lenses but with lenses I use for landscapes, I do.
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Good read

Fuji 10-24mm f/4 vs. Primes ? Fuji vs. Fuji
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Fuji vs Fuji is super thorough. It was this article that made me jump on the 16mm: 14mm f/2.8 vs. 16mm f/1.4 vs. 18mm f/2 ? Fuji vs. Fuji
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Originally Posted by is300eater
UWA lenses are fun, as long as they are worthy in terms of corners. I normally don't care about corner sharpness with portrait lenses but with lenses I use for landscapes, I do.
Fuji lenses do not have this concern. As the lenses are engineerd for this mount.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Fuji lenses do not have this concern. As the lenses are engineerd for this mount.
Corner sharpness has nothing to do with what mount they are engineered for. The Canon 17-40L has terrible corner sharpness at wider apertures and it has been specifically engineered for the EF mount.
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Well fuck me...

















I just paypaled the dude just paypaled the dude to buy it...not telling my wife...
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Old 08-26-2016, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Corner sharpness has nothing to do with what mount they are engineered for. The Canon 17-40L has terrible corner sharpness at wider apertures and it has been specifically engineered for the EF mount.
Fuji lenses are made specifically for Fuji X mount bodies. The are designed for that sensor to be sharp from corner to corner. That don't have the problems that Canon and Nikon do with with the difference of FF sensors and crop body sensors. So if you think you are correct it does't matter, then you should write the VP at Fuji and tell him he wrong for the way he has designed all of Fuji's lenses and bodies since the XPro was released.

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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Corner sharpness has nothing to do with what mount they are engineered for. The Canon 17-40L has terrible corner sharpness at wider apertures and it has been specifically engineered for the EF mount.
The 17-40 is also a 13 year old lens. New lenses are much better engineered with new tech for corner sharpness and things of that nature.

The 17-40 does quite well stopped down to around f/11 or so.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Fuji lenses are made specifically for Fuji X mount bodies. The are designed for that sensor to be sharp from corner to corner. That don't have the problems that Canon and Nikon do with with the difference of FF sensors and crop body sensors. So if you think you are correct it does't matter, then you should write the VP at Fuji and tell him he wrong for the way he has designed all of Fuji's lenses and bodies since the XPro was released.
Ok. So if I take the X mount lens and mount it to any other APS-C body with an adapter, it wouldn't have the same corner to corner sharpness?

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The 17-40 is also a 13 year old lens. New lenses are much better engineered with new tech for corner sharpness and things of that nature.

The 17-40 does quite well stopped down to around f/11 or so.
Well right, it was just an example to make a point.
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Ok. So if I take the X mount lens and mount it to any other APS-C body with an adapter, it wouldn't have the same corner to corner sharpness?
possibly not. Fuji home grew their x trans sensor and designed everything around that. It's not like, say, micro43 cameras where Panasonic makes lenses, and Olympus, and you can switch between any camera with a m43 mount (to include some video cameras).

The lenses we mapped optically and software wise to perform specifically with x trans sensor.

so I would venture a guess that if I did try and mount an XF lens on a canon aps c body or Nikon dx that they might perform differently.
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possibly not. Fuji home grew their x trans sensor and designed everything around that. It's not like, say, micro43 cameras where Panasonic makes lenses, and Olympus, and you can switch between any camera with a m43 mount (to include some video cameras).

The lenses we mapped optically and software wise to perform specifically with x trans sensor.

so I would venture a guess that if I did try and mount an XF lens on a canon aps c body or Nikon dx that they might perform differently.
I don't disagree that they were optimized for the sensor in terms of color, contrast, clarity, fringing, etc but when it comes to sharpness, that's not an output of the sensor, it's a specific input to the sensor from the glass. I would argue that the sensor was mapped to perform with the lens, not the other way around since that's WAY easier than optimizing an optical stack.
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Depends on how they grind and shape the glass, the rear element in particular. If the glass is designed to work with the sensor specifically then I'd say it's both optical and software.

I I haven't researched as much as others on this. I just know a bit from years of looking at cinema lenses on projectors designed to see optical performance.


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