Mizouse

im sure they have something in the works.

moeronn

Since when did Google get into the camera lens business?

BTW, don't forget the 24-105 f4 has 3-stop IS. Still, on a crop, I think you'd want your main walk around lens to be wider than 24.

stogie1020

Well. Google is making cell phones, so it's only a matter of time before they start making everything else. OK, joking.

What would you recommend for a main walk around? the 17-55? 10-22?

This is for a crop body.

moeronn

Between those two, the 17-55, no question. The 17-55 may not always be wide enough, but it is much more versatile - f2.8, larger range, IS. I used (rented) the 10-22 this weekend and really enjoyed it, but I was at the Grand Canyon. I don't think I'd use it much, if at all, for a walk around. I had primarily been using the 17-40 f4 L as my walk around, but now I'm thinking about selling it since the 17-55 is working well.

Again, I'm not knocking either of the other two options (24-70 f2.8 or 24-104 f4 IS). Those are both great lenses from what I have read. I just think that 24 won't be wide enough on a crop.

srika

lol can anyone find a larger version of this? here is the flickr link:

http://static.flickr.com/45/152386454_fa67e5da89.jpg

not posting this for any reason, necessarily - just something I ran across tonight.

Mizouse

i wonder what event that was for.

The Dougler

iTrader: (1)

ok, so I've just finished my tax return, and I will be receiving a sizable return. My question is if I were to spend some of it on camera gear what should I get? Currently I have an XTI, 50mm 1.8, 18-55 IS and random filters and bag/pod. I'm torn between a reasonable telephoto either 70-200 or 70-300 but would like a good comprise of fast glass or IS for the buck, or just getting an extension tube set. the tube set would offer me a reasonably priced way into limited macroish photog which I love, but I would also really like to extend the reach of my current focal length limitations. I think i'm favoring going the zoom route, but at the same time I can't decide if I'm better off waiting and buying high end zoom lens later. Argh I don't know what I want.

Dan Martin

Here's another good site that does a good job at comparing focal lengths: http://www.juzaphoto.com/eng/article...omparisons.htm

I've had this guy's site bookmarked for a couple years, but I just stumbled across it again last night. There's a lot of good stuff on that site, so it's worth browsing around.

waTSX

The EF 70-200L f/4 IS would be a great pickup, considering you already have a decent walk-around range covered. It's a lot cheaper and lighter than the f/2.8 version and excellent by all accounts I've read. That would give you 320mm of reach on the long end with your XTi. I have and love the 2.8 IS version, but it's a beast to haul around for a full day and I wouldn't mind having a lighter, albeit slower, version.

The Dougler

iTrader: (1)

Zoom Telephoto EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM Autofocus Lens $579
Zoom Telephoto EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS Image Stabilizer USM Autofocus Lens $479
EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS Autofocus Lens for Select Digital SLR Cameras $279

Best bang for the buck? the 55-250 seems really cheap, looks like time for research...

srika

I wonder what the cost of all the equipment in that pic is...

ViperrepiV

I just posted this in the "used camera equipment" thread, but i realized that this is probably a beter place for it...

I am in the market for a DSLR.....I found a used Xti for $400 (base only)....the guy is also selling a Sigma 18-200mm for $300. Any idea of the lens quality on this one? He said he would sell me the (non stabilized, i think) kit lens for $50, which seems to me like kind of a waste....but if I don't get the kit lens, and I don't get the one he is selling, I will need a good quality but versitle lens....any thoughts?

ViperrepiV

maybe this lens?

Sigma Zoom Super Wide Angle 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC Macro Autofocus Lens for Canon Digital EOS


and not sure if this is the same thing...

Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC SLD ELD Aspherical Macro Lens for Canon Digital SLR Cameras

Thanks for helping the n00b!

ViperrepiV

well i got the xti body, and tomorrow im going to buy one of two lenses. the one i mentioned up top:


Sigma Zoom Super Wide Angle AF 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC Macro Autofocus Lens for Canon Digital SLR Cameras

or



Sigma Zoom Super Wide Angle 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC Macro Autofocus Lens for Canon Digital EOS

not sure which....help?

The Dougler

iTrader: (1)

seems the 17-70 offers good range and speed, also it could help make a good kit because your next lens could be a 70-XXX and you would have a fair amount of range covered.

ViperrepiV

thanks for the advice. I ended up getting the Promaster (Tamron) 17-50mm f2.8....the store i went to said the tamrons are better than the Sigma (i.e. they didn't carry the sigma), but i also read good things about this lens, and i figured that I didn't need all that much zoom, and i liked the 2.8 at all lengths.











they look better at a higher res though

drigo

i'll trade you for my 70-200mm f/4L

The Dougler

iTrader: (1)

If your looking to sell, PM me.

waTSX

Lol! Nah, I'll hang on to the 2.8 IS, but the f/4 IS is a pretty sweet piece of glass, especially if you're doing daytime shooting.

drigo

lol..i know i was only kidding..
from what i've read..the f/4 is one of the sharpest lenses in the canon line-up..

drigo

i'll let you know...if i get rid of it i would replace it with the f/2.8 but right now i'm saving up for either the 24-70 f/2.8L or the 17-55 f/2.8IS

stogie1020

Anyone know if the 70-200 2.8IS will fit vertically in the Tamrac Adventure 9 lower compartment (detached)? According to the dimensions it seems like it 'just barely' is too big.

Mizouse

no idea, but the 70-200 2.8 non-is will either barely fit in my bag or just wont fit. depends on if i have the hood attached.

good thing i don't own this lens YET, otherwise ill get the urge to buy a bigger bag.

dom

Anyone use or have experience with the new Canon EF-S 55-250 IS? Just ordered one since I had a chance at a pretty good deal. I was waiting and waiting to buy a 70-200 or 70-300 but I could never justify the price for the amount of times I use the camera.

jupitersolo

From what I've been reading, people say that it is a pretty sweet piece of glass. Very sharp.

stogie1020

You have probably seen them already, but here is a link to the Amazon user reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B0011NVMO8/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_helpful?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=& showViewpoints=1&colid=&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDes cendinghttp://www.amazon.com/review/product/B0011NVMO8/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_helpful?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=& showViewpoints=1&colid=&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDes cending

Mizouse

serious? i was going to buy one but i decided to break the bank and get a 70-200 F/4.0L

Mizouse

WOW, this lens is TINY compared to the 70-200 2.8.. feels really fake in my opinion

Mizouse

evilone

I have a lens question. I have 2 lenses for my D80, a 70-300mm and 28-80mm. I am going to europe for 2-3 weeks this summer and was wondering what would be the best lens to get for panoramic type shots? I have heard of a wide angle lens or something like that, but Im not really sure. Any help is welcome!

Mizouse

well there are 2 ways you could get a panoramic shot, i think.

one way is to take a bunch of pictures next to each other and stitch it together later in photoshop

or you can get a wide angle lens like around the 10mm range and then crop it

evilone

how much does a good wide angle lens go for?

Mizouse

i dunno how well these are but here.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._ED_IF_DX.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._6D_EX_DC.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...T_X_124AF.html

evilone

thanks MIz.. GOD DAMN $1k for that Nikon glass.. shit and i thought the $650 or so was bad enough for my 70-300.. Anyone on here ever use Sigma or Tonkia glass before? those are more in my price range. I cant really afford to spend a grand on glass atm.

jupitersolo

dom,

Take a look at this thread, scroll down to the first picture.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/635123

dom

Pretty good reviews and a nice Photo in that thread to boot!

I was playing with it last night. I was outdoors and was generally pretty happy. My main concern was the speed of the auto focus especially at 250mm. I had played with a 75-300 at work at the auto focus was brutally slow. But this thing was just fine, I was tracking my dog moving around the backyard and it was surprisingly quick.

I haven't uploaded any photo's yet so I can't speak to the image quality. But for what I paid, ($230 CAD) I think I'll be pretty happy with it.

Caught that quote in one of the reviews. It was kinda strange hearing the IS. I thought it was broken.

As for build quality, its a step above the 18-55 kit lens but nothing to get excited about. Although I do prefer the zoom grip over a 70-200 series. Nice rubbery texture.

jupitersolo

I can hear the IS working on my 300 f/4. Was a little odd to me as well, first lens that has done this. Others say they have the same thing.

dom

I don't remember hearing the IS on the few of the 70-200 series lenses or the 17-55 IS I've used. Not a big deal, you really have to listen for it anyway.

EuRTSX

I had the Tokina 12-24mm.

Was a very nice lens for the money.

moeronn

Then you should have never played with the 2.8

If I ever decide to get the 2.8, I'll probably have a similar (though opposite) reaction. But, the f/4 IS is more likely than either 2.8 at this point.