Off Camera Flash
#41
Needs more Lemon Pledge
Thread Starter
I wish there was an "Understanding Flash" book.
#42
Senior Moderator
btw I think I've mentioned this elsewhere, but you can do a fake off-camera look by using a white card to bounce the light - it gives the impression that the light is coming from higher up than it really is - these 2 shots are with the 580EX's pop-up white card, no diffuser. The effect is even more interesting with a mirror - you can make it look like the light is coming slightly from the sides.
http://www.delobbo.com/gallery2/d/64385-1/IMG_2372.jpg
http://www.delobbo.com/gallery2/d/64403-2/IMG_2720.jpg
http://www.delobbo.com/gallery2/d/64385-1/IMG_2372.jpg
http://www.delobbo.com/gallery2/d/64403-2/IMG_2720.jpg
#44
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 40
Posts: 63,277
Received 2,793 Likes
on
1,988 Posts
i think probably the best book you can get for flash would be something related to studio/glamour photography.
#45
Photography Nerd
You should really pick up "Light: Science and Magic": http://www.amazon.com/Light-Science-...2222799&sr=1-1
It's a fantastic book that will really show you light in a new way. It's completely brand-agnostic so you don't have to worry about it being skewed to Canon or Nikon. In fact, I'm not even sure if they talk about specific models at all, it's just not important.
Another great source is the Strobist Lighting 101 series: http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/03/lighting-101.html
It's a fantastic book that will really show you light in a new way. It's completely brand-agnostic so you don't have to worry about it being skewed to Canon or Nikon. In fact, I'm not even sure if they talk about specific models at all, it's just not important.
Another great source is the Strobist Lighting 101 series: http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/03/lighting-101.html
#46
Big Block go VROOOM!
And if you want something that's 85% an enjoyable read with 15% knowledge thrown in for good measure, than Joe McNally's "The Moment it Clicks" is pretty good.
#47
Needs more Lemon Pledge
Thread Starter
Off to the bookstore...
#48
Needs more Lemon Pledge
Thread Starter
While saving up for the RadioPoppers/Elinchrome Skyports, I picked up an el-cheapo Cactus V2 set from eBay.
When connected, it fires the flash continuously... As soon as it recharges....BAM, flash fires...
You get what you pay for.
When connected, it fires the flash continuously... As soon as it recharges....BAM, flash fires...
You get what you pay for.
#49
Have camera, will travel
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Federal Way, WA
Age: 63
Posts: 7,783
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You should really pick up "Light: Science and Magic": http://www.amazon.com/Light-Science-...2222799&sr=1-1
It's a fantastic book that will really show you light in a new way. It's completely brand-agnostic so you don't have to worry about it being skewed to Canon or Nikon. In fact, I'm not even sure if they talk about specific models at all, it's just not important.
It's a fantastic book that will really show you light in a new way. It's completely brand-agnostic so you don't have to worry about it being skewed to Canon or Nikon. In fact, I'm not even sure if they talk about specific models at all, it's just not important.
#50
is learning to moonwalk i
And it sounds like cybersyncs have been making a pretty good name for themselves. No TTL, IIRC, but reasonably priced and dependable.
![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
#51
Registered speed offender
iTrader: (1)
anyone into speedlight photo?
this is an interesting way of shooting and seems extremely versatile..only downside i see is low battery life and not alot of power...but could be perfect in some situations..
anyone?
im concidering buying myself 2 580EX's...
1 for sure for everyday use anyway
anyone?
im concidering buying myself 2 580EX's...
1 for sure for everyday use anyway
#52
Needs more Lemon Pledge
Thread Starter
What exactly is "speedlight photo"?
#54
Registered speed offender
iTrader: (1)
speedlight photography...its when u use off camera flashes,including shoot thru umbrelas or sticking them thru a small soft box... u can have one on the cam,and another off cam,or both off cam and another on cam...i seen a video where a guy remotely used 7 off flashes all together in a desert shoot where he needed the mobility and wanted to try something new
#55
Registered speed offender
iTrader: (1)
its also called strobist :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-b6JKll054
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKAD7leNOVY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-b6JKll054
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKAD7leNOVY
#56
Needs more Lemon Pledge
Thread Starter
Delta, check out http://www.strobist.blogspot.com/
And
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=138907
Prepare to be amazed.
And
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=138907
Prepare to be amazed.
Last edited by stogie1020; 01-11-2009 at 09:07 PM.
#57
Photography Nerd
I use off-camera strobes a lot. It doesn't need to be that complicated. You just need a strobe and some way of triggering it. Light modifiers all have different purposes, but a basic shoot-through umbrella and stand is a good place to start.
#59
Needs more Lemon Pledge
Thread Starter
![rofl](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
there are a TON of different ways to use flash. I suck at them all, but check out the stuff on Strobist and there are some really creative lighting setups that, like Dan said, don't have to be super complicated.
Now, where is that video of the dude with the 12' boom arm off the pack frame and a strobe on the end of it?
#60
Needs more Lemon Pledge
Thread Starter
Youtube to the rescue:
<object width="480" height="295"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/pea5e2Z5gyE&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/pea5e2Z5gyE&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="295"></embed></object>
<object width="480" height="295"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/pea5e2Z5gyE&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/pea5e2Z5gyE&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="295"></embed></object>
#61
CL9 ABP
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Commack, Long Island -> Queens NY
Age: 37
Posts: 4,528
Received 245 Likes
on
112 Posts
I suck too i'm learning thru a friend right now some creative ways like holding a flash behind your head for like a light bulb look.
stuff like that.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/moiht/page3/
stuff like that.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/moiht/page3/
#62
Registered speed offender
iTrader: (1)
i figured,i havnt seen a thread on strobist or anything so i figured id start one up so we could discuss...the whole idea to me is awesome. ive seen some really nice pics come out of it.
i call it speedlight cause i saw that it was another name used other than strobist
i call it speedlight cause i saw that it was another name used other than strobist
#65
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 40
Posts: 63,277
Received 2,793 Likes
on
1,988 Posts
yea its a medium format camera.
Last edited by Mizouse; 01-12-2009 at 12:39 AM.
#67
Senior Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bay Area, CA
Age: 39
Posts: 12,005
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes
on
8 Posts
i figured,i havnt seen a thread on strobist or anything so i figured id start one up so we could discuss...the whole idea to me is awesome. ive seen some really nice pics come out of it.
i call it speedlight cause i saw that it was another name used other than strobist
i call it speedlight cause i saw that it was another name used other than strobist
![](https://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8230/img2736aq0.jpg)
![](https://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5717/cimg1153hg9.jpg)
I would recommend the zach arias one light DVD, very great vid
![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
#68
Big Block go VROOOM!
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=392245
#69
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 40
Posts: 63,277
Received 2,793 Likes
on
1,988 Posts
there are at least a few threads on it. I created one last year when I tried off camera lighting for the first time
![](https://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8230/img2736aq0.jpg)
![](https://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5717/cimg1153hg9.jpg)
I don't see what low battery life has anything to do with this? The speedlight flashes are self powered.
I would recommend the zach arias one light DVD, very great vid![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
![](https://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8230/img2736aq0.jpg)
![](https://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5717/cimg1153hg9.jpg)
I don't see what low battery life has anything to do with this? The speedlight flashes are self powered.
I would recommend the zach arias one light DVD, very great vid
![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Last edited by Mizouse; 01-12-2009 at 10:49 AM.
#72
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Not Las Vegas (SF Bay Area)
Age: 40
Posts: 63,277
Received 2,793 Likes
on
1,988 Posts
yes you can get a battery pack for it, but you can still run into the problem, although less likely
and its the CP-E4
and its the CP-E4
Last edited by Mizouse; 01-12-2009 at 10:55 AM.
#73
Big Block go VROOOM!
BTW, while researching this very subject over the weekend I came to the complete
![Doh](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/doh.gif)
#74
Senior Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bay Area, CA
Age: 39
Posts: 12,005
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes
on
8 Posts
Why would using the flash off camera make any difference to battery life or recycle time compared to using it in the hot shoe? You obviously may have to bump the power a a stop or two if you're shooting through an umbrella or softbox but I think that's relatively insignificant for today's flashes.
BTW, while researching this very subject over the weekend I came to the complete
realization that you lose ETTL when working off camera with most light modifiers such as an umbrella or softbox.
BTW, while researching this very subject over the weekend I came to the complete
![Doh](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/doh.gif)
#75
Big Block go VROOOM!
Has anyone seen any definitive statement as to whether or not a 430EX II can be used as a slave to a 580EX (first gen.) master? I would assume so but my feeble attempts at searching for this info came up bust.
#76
Drifting
#79
Photography Nerd
Elinchrom Skyport: http://www.elinchrom.com/
#80
Big Block go VROOOM!
Skyports are already on the shopping list. ![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I don't foresee myself wanting or needing two light sources anytime soon. Not to mention I don't think the master/slave setup would even work with an umbrella or softbox. I just wanted to make certain of the EX master, EX II slave thing ahead of time so I could know up front if that was going to be another eventual expense.
What I'm trying to find now is the hardware for holding a reflector when using a single light source. Alas, I have no assistant.
![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I don't foresee myself wanting or needing two light sources anytime soon. Not to mention I don't think the master/slave setup would even work with an umbrella or softbox. I just wanted to make certain of the EX master, EX II slave thing ahead of time so I could know up front if that was going to be another eventual expense.
What I'm trying to find now is the hardware for holding a reflector when using a single light source. Alas, I have no assistant.