Nikon D3x
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Nikon D3x
So apparently nikon usa had the images on their website, and then removed them.
Nikon rumors got a couple screen grabs.
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/11/26/br...-its-here.aspx
they also had a website parked for it too.
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/11/26/hi...-official.aspx
for those of you living under a rock, the D3x is supposed to be a D3 but with a 24.4mp sensor.
supposedly it will be announced December 1st.
Nikon rumors got a couple screen grabs.
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/11/26/br...-its-here.aspx
they also had a website parked for it too.
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/11/26/hi...-official.aspx
for those of you living under a rock, the D3x is supposed to be a D3 but with a 24.4mp sensor.
supposedly it will be announced December 1st.
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Some official statements about the D3x:
http://robgalbraith.com/bins/content...id=7-9318-9779
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http://robgalbraith.com/bins/content...id=7-9318-9779
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so pretty much its going to be like this.
Nikon D3x:
24.5 MP
5 fps
iso 50 - 6400 range
16bit (75mb files)
51pt autofocus
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/11/28/d3...available.aspx
Nikon D3x:
24.5 MP
5 fps
iso 50 - 6400 range
16bit (75mb files)
51pt autofocus
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/11/28/d3...available.aspx
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I was hearing that they plan on pulling out some medium formats?
or was this idea lost already.
I hope the d300 gets some nice firmware goodies from the d3x =)
or was this idea lost already.
I hope the d300 gets some nice firmware goodies from the d3x =)
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The resolution the camera will be capable of takes very much into medium format photography with the size of the images. But it will still be doing this on a Full Frame chip, not a Medium format sized chip.
Another D3x article : http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/...554fde65_b.jpg
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Official Sample Pics : http://www.nikon-image.com/jpn/produ...d3x/sample.htm
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The samples look great, but the $8000 pricetag doesn't.
It's also intersting that they only published ISO 100 and 200 shots. I'm sure this camera will be living in the low-iso realm, but I think we're all curious what the higher ISO results will look like with all those extra pixels.
It's also intersting that they only published ISO 100 and 200 shots. I'm sure this camera will be living in the low-iso realm, but I think we're all curious what the higher ISO results will look like with all those extra pixels.
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The samples look great, but the $8000 pricetag doesn't.
It's also intersting that they only published ISO 100 and 200 shots. I'm sure this camera will be living in the low-iso realm, but I think we're all curious what the higher ISO results will look like with all those extra pixels.
It's also intersting that they only published ISO 100 and 200 shots. I'm sure this camera will be living in the low-iso realm, but I think we're all curious what the higher ISO results will look like with all those extra pixels.
I would rather buy a 400 f/2.8 VR w/ that much money or a Canon 5D Mk II, I can always use an adapter to use my existing Nikkor lenses. The samples are great, but I won't splash 8k for it.
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Its not for people like us to run out and buy. This is a full on professional studio body. The resolution in a camera like this is for commercial shooters.
None of us have the need to own a camera that can produce billboard...
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OMG WHATS THIS!!!!
A Canon body that costs 8k!!!!!! Lets not forget Nikon isnt the first company to have a super expensive pro body in their line up. And this is the main competition for said body.
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...elTechSpecsAct
A Canon body that costs 8k!!!!!! Lets not forget Nikon isnt the first company to have a super expensive pro body in their line up. And this is the main competition for said body.
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...elTechSpecsAct
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OMG WHATS THIS!!!!
A Canon body that costs 8k!!!!!! Lets not forget Nikon isnt the first company to have a super expensive pro body in their line up. And this is the main competition for said body.
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...elTechSpecsAct
A Canon body that costs 8k!!!!!! Lets not forget Nikon isnt the first company to have a super expensive pro body in their line up. And this is the main competition for said body.
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...elTechSpecsAct
Nikon's biggest problem for pricing is the A900 and 5D2 which both have similar specs, yet somehow the D3x is $5000 more. It might not matter to the uber-pros who have a quarter million in lighting gear in their studio, but it's going to be hard to justify for the average wedding photog who make up the volume in the pro market.
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That was the MSRP from August 2007. It's $6700 in stores today: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...k_III_SLR.html
Nikon's biggest problem for pricing is the A900 and 5D2 which both have similar specs, yet somehow the D3x is $5000 more. It might not matter to the uber-pros who have a quarter million in lighting gear in their studio, but it's going to be hard to justify for the average wedding photog who make up the volume in the pro market.
Nikon's biggest problem for pricing is the A900 and 5D2 which both have similar specs, yet somehow the D3x is $5000 more. It might not matter to the uber-pros who have a quarter million in lighting gear in their studio, but it's going to be hard to justify for the average wedding photog who make up the volume in the pro market.
I'll say it again the D3x much like the 1Ds is mainly for pros who need to be able to go large in their printing, like commercial people.
And in a year the D3x will come down in price.
It kills me you guys act like this isnt all relative to each other.
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That was the MSRP from August 2007. It's $6700 in stores today: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...k_III_SLR.html
Mark II. the 5D was 3K, and the 1ds mark II was also 8K.
It's just business as usual for Canon.
Nikon is no more worried about the 5DII vs its D3x than Canon is
worried about the 5dII vs 1dSIII. They are different lines.
As Sarlacc said, The people who are buying the 1D/D3s are doing so because
they need/want that kind of camera, and price is somewhat irrelevant at
that point.
If you are actually making money off your camera, I really doubt a grand or
two is that big of a deal. I don't think Weddings are necessarily getting harder to shoot and a photographer should be able to use the same camera for quite a while.
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Nikon has a BIG (according to them) announcement at the WPPI event in February. The D3x will ship in December 2008. They can't be the same.
That makes no sense. Unless they really really screwed up their dates.
I'm still thinking the rumored 'Larger than Medium format' camera.
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Sure it's relative. I don't think anyone is going to switch systems over a $1300 difference. It's just a little hard to see the value in this new body. The D3 and D700 had value in spades, but they haven't used any of the new technology from the D3 or D700 in this camera. It's just a D3 body with A900 sensor technology (not the same sensor, but the same photosite design and tech, different coatings, and a new AA filter).
It's even better here in
where we get the privilege of paying $9500 for this body. 
Coincidently, that's the same price as the Mamiya 645AFDIII body with the 22MP ZD back and an 80mm lens! It's funny that they market this as being an alternative to medium format, but why shoot 35mm when you can get medium format for the same price?
Not that any of this matters to me because I won't be buying one, but I just like to see Canon get as much competition as they can.
I was hoping the D3x would be $5K so the 1Ds3 would drop into "potential upgrade territory". Now I'll just have to keep selling prints with my lowly 15MP body until the prices of these cams are within reach of us mere mortals...
It's even better here in
where we get the privilege of paying $9500 for this body. Coincidently, that's the same price as the Mamiya 645AFDIII body with the 22MP ZD back and an 80mm lens! It's funny that they market this as being an alternative to medium format, but why shoot 35mm when you can get medium format for the same price?Not that any of this matters to me because I won't be buying one, but I just like to see Canon get as much competition as they can.
I was hoping the D3x would be $5K so the 1Ds3 would drop into "potential upgrade territory". Now I'll just have to keep selling prints with my lowly 15MP body until the prices of these cams are within reach of us mere mortals...
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wow, I would totally be curious about the Mamiya route if I was in a position to buy one of these..
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There's the inevitable "is it a Sony or Nikon sensor" question thing that arises from another new sensor announcement.
In actuality, the origin of the sensor is, like virtually all Nikon sensors, more complex.
Personally, I like the way Nikon puts it: "unique." The D3x sensor is unique to the D3x, though it may share some underpinnings with other sensors. '
So it seems clear to me that the D3x sensor isn't the A900 sensor. There are some obvious differences that can be gleaned from the specs and without access to technical data sheets.
At the same time, there are too many coincidences for the D3x sensor not to be based on the Sony sensel (the light sensing area of the photosite). It also seems clear that the low-pass filter is handled differently in the Nikon version. So all those thinking that the A900 and D3x should be the "same" for raw files are probably going to be proven wrong. And for JPEG files, the EXPEED and BIONZ image processing ASICs are certainly going to produce different results.
I think this guy is ready to be a politician :P
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Some impressive high-ISO shots here: http://www.fotoactualidad.com/2008/1...3x-sample.html
Just note that the settings are listed ABOVE the image and not below. I was really impressed by the ISO 1600 shot until I realized it was ISO 800
It's also weird that the colour temp seems to swing towards yellow in the higher ISOs. It did the same in this test: http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews_nikon_d3x_3.php
Maybe the AWB needs some work in these preproduction models. In any case, it's doing much better than I expected for that many pixels, although it's obvious that Nikon is doing on-chip noise reduction once it gets above ISO400. The resolution starts dropping off at ISO800, which is to be expected.
Just note that the settings are listed ABOVE the image and not below. I was really impressed by the ISO 1600 shot until I realized it was ISO 800
It's also weird that the colour temp seems to swing towards yellow in the higher ISOs. It did the same in this test: http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews_nikon_d3x_3.php
Maybe the AWB needs some work in these preproduction models. In any case, it's doing much better than I expected for that many pixels, although it's obvious that Nikon is doing on-chip noise reduction once it gets above ISO400. The resolution starts dropping off at ISO800, which is to be expected.
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Nikon D3x sensor - made by Sony, designed by Nikon
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/12/02/ni...-by-nikon.aspx
http://nikonrumors.com/2008/12/02/ni...-by-nikon.aspx
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