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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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2.0 beta bug?

I just tried it with 5D RAW and jpgs in LR 1.4 and the sharpending previews worked fine on both.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Billiam
2.0 beta bug?

I just tried it with 5D RAW and jpgs in LR 1.4 and the sharpending previews worked fine on both.
It's not working for me on 1.2 - I just tried on 2.0 too and it didn't work....

I wonder if a problem exists between the computer and the chair...
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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Is it me or does it seem sharpening and noise reduction in 1.4 just doesnt do anything.

I have spent time sitting there looking for differences, and i just see nothing.
I can see the difference in both. They are subtle but I think that's a good thing when it comes to sharpening and NR. Sharpening effects are best seen at 100%.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 06:16 AM
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FYI - It's out of beta and shipping today.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 10:07 AM
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Does anyone know what the upgrade price is if you already have LR?
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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If anyone finds a video of the new gradient filter feature in action, please post. I checked all the usual sites associated with the NAPP guys and didn't see anything.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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That looks pretty cool, PITA moving it though. If you find post as well.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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mmmm, same price as lightroom 1.0 I think.

Side note: I've discovered a weird feature request I want.
I want the ability to make a 1024x768 crop.

Unlike photoshop, you can't move the crop window at 1:1 resolution, which means it's impossible
to size the window precisely. Not to mention the 'current crop window' doesn't update in realtime.
Ah well, maybe they'll slide that in sometime.

You're probably wondering, 'why do you want this?' It's because the max resolution on my
web page is 1024x768, and I am cropping for 'free zoom'. So I want a 1024x768 crop, without
needing to resize and lose resolution.

- Frank
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ChodTheWacko
Unlike photoshop, you can't move the crop window at 1:1 resolution, which means it's impossible
to size the window precisely.
This is the single biggest complaint I've had with LR. I have yet to hear anyone mention cropping while viewing at 1:1 with 2.0 so I assume it hasn't been fixed. And I don't mean added I mean fixed. The inability to adjust your crop while viewing at 1:1 is just completely inexcusable.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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BTW, don't forget that if you're a NAPP member you get 15% off at the Adobe store.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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sweet, I'll probably get this sometime today.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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I'm running the 30 day and at 2gb (PC desktop), slow. Time to upgrade, but to 4gb or 8gb
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
I'm running the 30 day and at 2gb (PC desktop), slow. Time to upgrade, but to 4gb or 8gb
32-bit Windows can only allocate a maximum of 3 GB of RAM for program use.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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I just upgraded ....did it AFTER coming back inside from the wonderful earthquake

Now, I'll try and play a bit.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I just upgraded ....did it AFTER coming back inside from the wonderful earthquake
If you happen to notice, can you give us a ballpark on how long the 1.x -> 2.x catalog conversion takes?
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Billiam
If you happen to notice, can you give us a ballpark on how long the 1.x -> 2.x catalog conversion takes?
I'm running a 2.8ghz imac with 4gb ram.....took maybe a minute with 6000 photos in my catalog.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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Anyone know if you can upgrade an academic copy to the full version for $99? It says you have to have a licenced version, but doesn't really clarify beyond that, so it should work, right?
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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I found this on the adobe forums (http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b56765/3 )

There is no such thing as a 'Student Version' of LR only Student Rate licensing of the exact same software. Go, download the 1.4.1 version.

In, AFAIK, all cases of Adobe software, at least, it is Academic Rate Licensing, not some special student version of their Applications.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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^^ Thanks for the info. But even though the software is identical, they still know it is an academic license, so they may not allow upgrades to the retail licensing.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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I got confirmation on POTN that it can be done. About to purchase, download and install.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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I'll have to wait a little while for this one.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ChodTheWacko
In, AFAIK, all cases of Adobe software, at least, it is Academic Rate Licensing, not some special student version of their Applications.
FWIW my PS CS3 I use at work (which is a college) says "Academic" on the splash screen. That may very well be the only difference though.
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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Okay, the multi monitor support is a bit limited.
You can only select 'Grid', 'loupe', 'compare', 'survey' or 'slideshow'.

Maybe a bug - if you select grid on your second monitor, then select grid on your primary,
it pops the second monitor into 'loupe'. That's fine, except when you change the main
monitor back to loupe, the second monitor doesn't change back to grid.

My main monitor is the good monitor, and what I'd prefer is to drag all tools to the second
monitor so I can do a full screen loupe on the good monitor.

There's a pretty easy workaround though - make the good monitor the secondary monitor.

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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 11:23 PM
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OMG, you can select multiple pictures and do 'add 1 hour to the capture time of each picture'.
That is incredibly awesome. I've been having problems since I'm syncing up 3 cameras, and two of the people forgot to change their clocks after changing time zones!

So far, LR2 is pretty good.
I already hit the 'out of memory' bug that forces you to restart LR, but that's not a huge deal.
It's very nice to have some sharpening after you do 'export' to jpeg.

I hit another slightly annoying bug. When you crop, the dimensions don't change after you let go of the mouse on the main screen. BUT, it does change on the secondary monitor, which works for me.

The localized editing I need some practice with. It worked very nicely though for lightening someone's face which was in shadow since they had a hat on.

Does anyone know if there is a way to export the sorted list of files?
I want to feed a 'capture time ordered' list into another program.

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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ChodTheWacko
OMG, you can select multiple pictures and do 'add 1 hour to the capture time of each picture'.
That is incredibly awesome. I've been having problems since I'm syncing up 3 cameras, and two of the people forgot to change their clocks after changing time zones!

So far, LR2 is pretty good.
I already hit the 'out of memory' bug that forces you to restart LR, but that's not a huge deal.
It's very nice to have some sharpening after you do 'export' to jpeg.

I hit another slightly annoying bug. When you crop, the dimensions don't change after you let go of the mouse on the main screen. BUT, it does change on the secondary monitor, which works for me.

The localized editing I need some practice with. It worked very nicely though for lightening someone's face which was in shadow since they had a hat on.

Does anyone know if there is a way to export the sorted list of files?
I want to feed a 'capture time ordered' list into another program.

- Frank
Can you explain the one hour thing?

I have never hit the memory bug...maybe with 2 I will? who knows.

Havent had time to play with it.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Can you explain the one hour thing?

I have never hit the memory bug...maybe with 2 I will? who knows.

Havent had time to play with it.
I hit the memory leak a lot with lightroom 1.0, it went away with 1.3.
The symptom is you get an upside down 'Out of memory' when you view a
1:1 preview.


Here's the scenario for 1 hour thing:
Since I'm usually screwing around and taking multiple pictures of everything, my workflow is to
take all pictures of _____, pick the best one(s), delete & archive them, then move on to next thing.
With multiple cameras, this is still easy - just sort by capture time.

I went to yellowstone and hung out with some girls from California who forgot to change the clocks on their cameras.
So now their clock is one hour behind mine. So now if you sort by time, my 2 pm shots are mixed up
somewhere with their "1 pm" shots, and so it's this annoying blend of pictures. I basically have to look
at their picture's EXIF time, and scroll forward 1 hour to find my matching pictures.

Anyway, Lightroom (including V1 actually) allows a Metadata -> Edit Capture time.
So now I can select all the girl's pictures, and modify the EXIF capture time and add the missing hour,
and all the pictures are syncronized. Great!

This is a big deal for me, since my albums are generally a story and I want my pictures in chronological
order. I have a file.list file that specifies the order I want pictures in. (Which is why I am looking
for a way to export that).


LR allows you to modify EXIF capture time by any amount, including seconds. So actually, the best thing
to do is have everyone do a 'sync shot' and take a picture at the same time. That way, if Camera 1 is
say, 15 minutes ahead of Camera 2, you can still sync up the pictures.

I don't know if this is a bug or not, but the EXIF in the exported JPEG didn't change.
So on my web site, if you look at the EXIF info, it still kinda looks like the pictures are out of order.

- Frank
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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pics of said girls or it didn't happen
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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What's the verdict on crop adjustments while viewing 1:1?

Can I or not?
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Billiam
What's the verdict on crop adjustments while viewing 1:1?

Can I or not?
No 1:1 crop.

One annoying thing about having to swap primary and secondary monitors is
that my secondary monitor is normally portrait. LR is very annoying on a portrait monitor, although having the secondary helps a lot. It would be very useful if you could select a tool, and then use it on the secondary monitor.

Something else that would help a lot, which also still isn't allowed, is to run
lightroom in a window or something, so you can widen it. I know it runs faster when it's full screen, but it's nice to have some flexability when you need it.

- Frank
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
pics of said girls or it didn't happen
Hah, I don't think they'd reach AZ standards.
You can start taking a peek at lishutterbug.com for the Yellowstone gallery,
if you want to jump the gun. Like Switzerland, I'm uploading it in batches at
a time. I won't be done with everything for another couple of weeks, at this rate.

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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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Well then

Adobe's got some splainin' to do!
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Well then

Adobe's got some splainin' to do!
And still no custom watermarks or borders for export? WTF??

I'll have to look into LR2/Morgify, but these things should be built-in!!
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I thought I read somewhere that borders where going to be able to export with images.
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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I could swear I actually saw borders on export in action in a 2.0 beta video.
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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If borders are there, then I haven't been able to find them.
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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As a followup, there is a border option for printing, but it's only one border/color and I still haven't found one for exporting.
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^^ Print to jpg?
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