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srika 10-20-2011 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by jupitersolo (Post 13311005)
It's the first "real" thing for Canon uses to get happy about in awhile.

yeah but contrary to what seeing in here, I'm not seeing much at all of "it's just a D3" or "its underwhelming". that's my point

srika 10-28-2011 03:51 PM

1DX first impressions
http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/con...ons-Review.htm

is300eater 10-28-2011 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by srika (Post 13328387)


shutter life rated to over 400,000 :what: Now, that's a keeper! And well worth the $6800.

jupitersolo 10-28-2011 04:13 PM

All shutters are design to a certain life spam, they could last forever or fail within first few months or year you use it. But the did use some quality materials with this one.

http://www.olegkikin.com/shutterlife/

Mizouse 11-03-2011 09:27 PM

Hmmm C300 camera...

Also an in development EOS Movies DSLR that can record at 4K and is full frame...

Sarlacc 11-03-2011 10:06 PM

Smoke and mirrors. I read the specs and it's shite.

Jus something to make the canon fans jump up and bark.

dom 11-04-2011 08:39 AM

Thanks for the detailed analysis. ;)

But care to tell us why? I'm not doubting since I know shite about video but it would be nice if you could at least give us some reasoning. The sensor sounds great so what's shite?
Price?, not a true 4K?

Sarlacc 11-04-2011 10:48 AM

a 4k sensor that shoots 1080 by 1920....thats not anywhere near 4k, thats 2k...
The form factor sucks. They are copying RED...and its shitty form factor, horrid ergonomics.

I'll have to read more...I jus the official press release this morning...so some of the specs I read might be wrong...but bit rates etc were listed as really low.

And 20 fucking grand....phhht. fuck no.

srika 11-04-2011 11:16 AM

wait, they want 20k for that Canon? rofl... Red's are available for much cheaper and are true 4k (and even 5k)! I mean like half that! what is Canon doing?????

dom 11-04-2011 11:19 AM

Its marketed as 4K but they process it differently or something. :dunno:

They also announced the development of a Cinema dedicated SLR with a Full Frame sensor that will shoot true 4K cropped to APS-H. That sounds interesting but it looks like a 1D X body so I'm guessing the price will be 10K+.

And what's with those 2 zoom lenses costing 45 and 47K? :what: Holy shite.

jupitersolo 11-04-2011 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by srika (Post 13343290)
wait, they want 20k for that Canon? rofl... Red's are available for much cheaper and are true 4k (and even 5k)! I mean like half that! what is Canon doing?????

What's Canon doing? The name on the product is all that some need...

srika 11-04-2011 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by jupitersolo (Post 13343314)
What's Canon doing? The name on the product is all that some need...

it reminds me of another company. :bitelip:

dom 11-04-2011 11:43 AM

The badge probably cost 15K.

srika 11-04-2011 11:45 AM

wait, since when is Canon a company known to inflate their prices just for the badge???

last time I checked, their camera models and lenses are rather affordable, comparatively speaking.

dom 11-04-2011 11:50 AM

You heard wrong, they make shite that can't compete and are surviving on name alone. Just ask Jupes.

jupitersolo 11-04-2011 11:52 AM

Well they are doing it years before, so they can sit back and watch one try to catch up...

dom 11-04-2011 11:54 AM

How can I argue with something I can't even understand?

You win.

srika 11-04-2011 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by dom (Post 13343424)
how can i argue with something i can't even understand?

You win.

+1

jupitersolo 11-04-2011 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by dom (Post 13343424)
How can I argue with something I can't even understand?

You win.

:woot: :chug:

srika 11-04-2011 12:45 PM

lol who is going to buy that C300 when you can get production-quality video from a 5D2? :chuckle:

srika 11-04-2011 12:48 PM

ah. also check the video for hands-on commentary from Vincent Laforet.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/03/c...ands-on-video/

The C300 will be more familiar to cinematographers -- photojournalists may have access to the cam, thanks to its $20,000 price tag (that's a relative bargain, believe it or not), but you can't pick this up and fire away without taking some time to learn the interface. It has quite the solid feel, as you'd expect from a camera in this price range, though it's not as heavy as it looks -- you won't want to hold it in your hand for a full day of filming, but quick shots probably won't be an issue. The system is modular, so you can add and remove components as you wish -- industry standard connectors let you hook up cinema gear, which is something you could never do with the 5D Mark II. The small form factor and price tag to match should help Canon gain some ground in Hollywood, but we'll wait for a chance to shoot some footage before drawing any firm conclusions. In the meantime, we'll have to take Laforet at his word -- which you'll find just past the break.

dom 11-04-2011 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by jupitersolo (Post 13343524)
:woot: :chug:


:gheyhug:

EL_PIC 11-04-2011 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by is300eater (Post 13328405)
shutter life rated to over 400,000 :what: Now, that's a keeper! And well worth the $6800.

Note - it is only rated by Canon and there is no warranty coverage on actual usage. Actual rates are all over the place.
I am a loyal Canon customer but know that shutter biz use rates are really just marketing beeswax.
Beeswax cause there is only a small amount of difference between DSLR shutters of the same size {FPS and some use
more oil which will drop on your sensor}.
But as your camera costs more ... the non warranty shutter life rates go up ... get the picture ???
We will see how the actual "14 FPS" and shutter life pan out.
I suspect 14FPS and a full mirror will be a problem.
Does anyone remember how Canon said such great things on 1D MK III Auto Focus when it was introduced and then had to recall them all for a sub mirror mod change ???
Or am I totally OUT OF FOCUS ???

Mizouse 11-04-2011 02:24 PM

14 fps is with the mirror locked up.

Sarlacc 11-04-2011 07:45 PM

Vince Lafloiret is a monkey in Canons pocket. The guy isn't even a cinematographer and wouldn't know what to do if he ever found himself on a real film set.

srika 11-04-2011 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Sarlacc (Post 13344299)
Vince Lafloiret is a monkey in Canons pocket. The guy isn't even a cinematographer and wouldn't know what to do if he ever found himself on a real film set.

:yawn:

Sarlacc 11-04-2011 07:48 PM

Sony F3 > canon c300 for less money.

The red...I never drank their kool-aid. They are more of a pain than they are worth.

Canon needs to focus on their dslr line. I am thankful Nikon has kept their nose out of the race for the lost part.

Sarlacc 11-04-2011 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by srika (Post 13344301)
:yawn:

You can yawn all you want. It's the truth.

srika 11-04-2011 08:16 PM

Im yawning because what you said is :co: and most of us who follow this thread know this already

EL_PIC 11-05-2011 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Mizouse (Post 13343796)
14 fps is with the mirror locked up.

Actually its called Hyper Mode and contains other restrictions {no AF, no Raw, and more TBA}. 12FPS is the "normal".
Shutters are subject to mirror slap and curtain vibrations - it is actually quite massive on Full Frame DSLRs {as in MF also}.
High tech manufacture is often plauged by specmanship and that goes at least double for how Canon markets itself.
It will be interesting ... I expect revisions and problems.
Of the over 100 specs Canon has pre released on the to be 1DX there is only a dozen or so the user can somewhat verify at great endeavor.
Canon Marketing releases specs on annouced equipment months ahead and Engineering / Manufacturing attempt to make it so.
Does anyone remember the 1/16,000 sec shutter specification on the 1D 10 years ago ??
Nikon on the other hand is a bit more cautious.
The other DSLR manufactures even more so.

pttl 12-26-2011 08:49 AM

Got a Canon EOS Rebel t3i for Christmas. I'm a complete :n00b: when it comes to cameras and photography.

Any tips, shortcuts, advice is welcome! :wish:

Really...anything at all...anything in the way of help or comments, would be appreciated. :tomato:

jupitersolo 12-26-2011 10:50 AM



You can get a hardcopy, for kindle, for iBooks. But it'll be the best around $15.00 book you can buy.

If you don't buy it and you get frustrated trying to take pictures, it only your fault.

MWalsh9152 12-26-2011 03:13 PM

^ read that book cover to cover, then play with the camera and get an idea of what you learned......then read the book again.

I was pretty lost at first, I actually put the camera back in the box and didnt touch it for another year. When I took it back out I read through the book again and things started to click.

What are you hoping to shoot, and what lens do you have, the kit that it came with?

pttl 12-26-2011 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by jupitersolo (Post 13443099)
http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-...4918011&sr=8-1


You can get a hardcopy, for kindle, for iBooks. But it'll be the best around $15.00 book you can buy.

If you don't buy it and you get frustrated trying to take pictures, it only your fault.

Thanks for the link! :thumbsup:

pttl 12-26-2011 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by MWalsh9152 (Post 13443417)
What are you hoping to shoot, and what lens do you have, the kit that it came with?

I find myself more drawn to nature, cars, architecture....no so much people/portraits. :dunno:

MWalsh9152 12-27-2011 06:37 PM

I shoot mostly nature and architecture myself.

Dont be afraid to look to others for inspiration. You can look online and find locations that look like they are something you want to shoot. Most every place has already been shot to death, so there isnt much originality to be had in location.....try and find different perspectives, things that make yours different, climb to get to different angles if possible. I often find myself guilty of tunnel vision when shooting a place, sometimes I will pack up frustrated, only to turn around and find the shot I was looking for.

You may want to look into a tripod too.

pttl 12-27-2011 06:55 PM

^

Cool. Thanks man! :thumbsup:

There is just SO much info out there. It really is hard to know where to begin. I suppose one of the cool things is, anything i don't like i can just delete. :chuckle: Unlike the days of film...that must have been so intimidating.

edit:

The lenses it came with are:
EFS 18 - 55mm and an EFS 55 - 250mm f/4-5.6IS II Of course I have NO idea what I just typed. :rofl: :whyme:

jupitersolo 12-27-2011 07:11 PM

Those lenses will be good to start off with, don't be in a rush to get others until you know what the limitations of the one's you have.

pttl 12-27-2011 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by jupitersolo (Post 13445399)
Those lenses will be good to start off with, don't be in a rush to get others until you know what the limitations of the one's you have.

Yeah...I'm thinking that will be a while, since i have no idea what any of those numbers actually mean. :tomato:

btw...how do you shoot black and white? There is something just so intriguing about b/w Photos....

Mizouse 12-27-2011 07:56 PM

Shoot in color then convert to b&w on the computer, you never know you might not like the shot in b&w...


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