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Old 10-19-2009, 11:04 PM
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Canon 1D Mark IV

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1D Mark IV
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Canon 1D Mark IV

Specifications

New 45-point Area AF sensor including 39 cross-type AF points with f/2.8 support plus new AI Servo II AF with improved algorithm.

ISO 100 - 12800 (expandable to L: 50, H1: 25600, H2: 51200, H3: 102400) for shooting from bright to dim light with low noise levels.

EOS HD movie with manual exposure control and multiple frame rates (1080: 30p (29.97) / 24p (23.976) / 25p, 720: 60p (59.94) / 50p, 480: 60p (59.94) / 50p).

16.1 Megapixel APS-H CMOS sensor and Dual DIGIC 4 Image Processors for high image quality and speed.

10.0 fps continuous shooting up to 121 Large JPEGS or 28 RAW using a UDMA CF card.

3.0-inch ClearView II LCD monitor, 160° viewing angle, 920,000-dot VGA, reflection resistance with multi coating and high-transparency materials for bright and clear viewing.

Magnesium alloy body with shutter durability up to 300,000 cycles and exclusive dust- and weather-resistance.

Fully compatible with over 50 EF lenses and a wide range of EOS System accessories.

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Professionally Proven, High-Speed AF.
New 45-point Area AF sensor including 39 cross-type AF points with f/2.8 support plus new AI Servo II AF with improved algorithm.
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The EOS-1D Mark IV has a newly developed, high-precision Area AF sensor with 45 manually selectable points including 39 cross-type, high-precision AF points for exacting and fast focusing no matter the subject. New AI Servo II AF focus tracking features improved algorithms that help improve stability, reliability and focus no matter the situation. Whether shooting a fast-paced soccer game or shooting a close-up of a bee on a wind-blown flower during macro photography, AI Servo II AF helps ensure sharp focus every time. AF point selection has been improved as well. Photographers can select their own point through either the camera’s Multi-controller or Main Dial/Quick Control Dial. Automatic selection is as simple as the press of a button. With Custom functions, photographers can select their own default focus point to automatically switch between horizontal and vertical shooting and can even choose to have primary focus supported by adjacent focus points for more accuracy with moving subjects.
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Coverage
Approx. 100% horizontally and vertically
Magnification
Approx. 0.76x (with 50mm lens at infinity, -1 m-1)
Angle of view: Approx. 28.3°



doesnt seem right that the 7D would be 100% w/ 1.0x magnification but not the 1D
Old 10-19-2009, 11:09 PM
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39 cross type AF points at 2.8
Old 10-19-2009, 11:11 PM
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With C.Fn I -3 (ISO speed range), the highest and lowest settable ISO speed can be set. By setting L (ISO 50) for the lowest speed and H1 (ISO 25600), H2 (ISO 51200), H3 (ISO 102400)

yep Hi3 of 102,400 ISO
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
doesnt seem right that the 7D would be 100% w/ 1.0x magnification but not the 1D
Yeah, with 7D viewfinder will be larger then.
Too bad.

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wait so no video?
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Advanced Movie Recording for Myriad Applications.
EOS HD movie with manual exposure control and multiple frame rates (1080: 30p (29.97) / 24p (23.976) / 25p, 720: 60p (59.94) / 50p, 480: 60p (59.94) / 50p).
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oh I totally missed that.. they dressed it up to sound all serious..
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oohh thanks

samples images:

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos1dm4/
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full HD video recording in a 1D... KERAAAAZAY!!!!

would woulda ever thought, even 2 yrs ago.
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- Movies cannot be printed.
and just why not???
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It should have a direct print 1080p flip-book option.
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yeah thats BS. i want my money back
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hmm... i wonder how it records video. no special switch like the 7D
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LAFORET videos:

http://vincentlaforet.smugmug.com/La...86345820_EeDCa

http://vimeo.com/7152063
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sorry its only 1 video.

different hosts.
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shot all in available light! iso6400 some 3200
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i wonder why they couldnt make those last 6 AF points cross type
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interesting new tid bit about the AF system:

The camera's 39 cross-type AF points act as cross type with any f/2.8 maximum aperture lens, as well as with certain f/4 lenses or lens+teleconverter combinations that add up to f/4. (In all previous 1-series digital SLRs, only the centre point would retain its cross type detection capabilities when an f/4 lens was attached.)

The eligible Canon lenses are:

* Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L
* Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS
* Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS + Extender EF 1.4x II
* Canon EF 200mm f/2L IS + Extender EF 2x II
* Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS + Extender EF 1.4x II
* Canon EF 400mm f/2.8L IS + Extender EF 1.4x II
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
i wonder why they couldnt make those last 6 AF points cross type
maybe they ran out?

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In all seriousness, it's hard to get tooooo excited about the camera until you see some tests. The 'tangibles' seem mostly the same. (well except for movie mode)

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yea, i want to see real world sample pics!
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
hmm... i wonder how it records video. no special switch like the 7D
I think I like this position better since it's right by the shutter release!
Canon hasn't incorporated the smart still/video mode switch and start/stop button of the 7D into the EOS-1D Mark IV. They have empowered the flash exposure lock (FEL) button, however, to optionally serve as the video quick start button. With the camera configured this way, pressing FEL, even when not in video mode, will begin the recording of a movie clip.

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on the 2nd page of the Galbraith link it also shows WFT support for iphone and other phones... pretty cool, no more need for that 3rd party app which worked so-so from what I heard.
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But it's no full frame? What's the point?
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I'm sure there will be a 1Ds4.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
I'm sure there will be a 1Ds4.
I'm sure too. So why not just make it. Seems like the non-fullframe model is completely pointless.

Canon still lacks a true D3 fighter.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I'm sure too. So why not just make it. Seems like the non-fullframe model is completely pointless.

Canon still lacks a true D3 fighter.
I guess it all depends on what you use it for, some might say Nikon has nothing to compete with Canon now because they all lack 1080p.

Sports and wildlife shooters still prefer the crop from the extra "reach" it gives you, where a 500mm = 650mm. It's only an issue on the wide end where your 14mm becomes a 18mm. In that case, they still have the 5D2 and eventually a 1Ds4 to suit your needs.

The Leica S2 is a crop camera and they've recently had to add a second line to ramp up production to meet demand, and that's a $30,000 camera!

The bottom line is so long as the camera suits your needs, who cares what the crop is. It might help some and hurt others, but Canon has something for everyone.
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A 5D2 doesnt have 24p, nor can is compete with a D3 in low light or autofocus.

the 1DsM4 doesnt exist at the moment.

So, like I said there is no real D3 competitor. Its really a pointless body at this point...They should have just released the 1Ds and gone full frame.

As for the joke about Nikon and 1080p...I already stated in the D3s thread its annoying and sad to Nikon is apparently rolling over to Canon in the video aspect.
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The second post in this thread is mindnumbing. Just the main details would have been good.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
A 5D2 doesnt have 24p, nor can is compete with a D3 in low light or autofocus.

the 1DsM4 doesnt exist at the moment.

So, like I said there is no real D3 competitor. Its really a pointless body at this point...They should have just released the 1Ds and gone full frame.

As for the joke about Nikon and 1080p...I already stated in the D3s thread its annoying and sad to Nikon is apparently rolling over to Canon in the video aspect.
The cameras don't need to be spec-for-spec clones to be competitive. The same logic you're using would mean that Nikon has no competitor to the 1D4, for the exactly opposite reasons. Some features are more valuable to some people than they are to others. Canon has a 1 stop larger ISO range, more pixels that can be used either for more resolution or reduced noise, and better video features. That might not be worth anything to you, but that's why there are choices in the market.

BMW competes with Mercedes at every price point but they don't have two cars that are identical.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
The second post in this thread is mindnumbing. Just the main details would have been good.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
But it's no full frame? What's the point?
The 1D, however, has always been 1.3x crop, and it hasn't been a big deal. I've always wondered if the smaller sensor allows higher frame rate.

the 1Ds has always been the high resolution beast for Canon, so it makes no sense to drop the resolution of that line to compete with the D3. I'm not even sure where a D3 competitor would fit in to canon's line, unless they make a *gulp* third 1D line? At the moment, doing it in the 1D makes the most sense.

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the 1Ds4 is gonna be 32MP, not really a D3 competitor either, imo.

oh and just for the record, 5D2 is getting 24/25p video :P
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Looks like a great camera, but out of my price range and out of my league.

Would be great for sports shooters. They could shoot indoor and night time sports with little to no trouble.
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I'm beyond delighted with my 7D.
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i liked my original post because it showed alot of specs instead of summarizing the points.


anyways DP reviews announcement of it. with some nifty pictures.
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0910/09102001canon1d4.asp
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Was trying to find what the differences were from the 1D3, that hurt my head just trying to filter through it.


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