Sly Raskal

iTrader: (1)

Thanks for the info!

This isn't my entry in the contest, just an attempt at it...



I'm having a hard time focusing on the object. The lowest I can set the Aperture to is 2.8. Also in the "M" mode, you have to manually set the shutter speed as well, which is affecting brightness of the picture. Could that be affecting the focusing on the object?

Wisc Badger

you need more distance between the subject and the background.

Sly Raskal

iTrader: (1)

^^^ I tried that, but the object I'm trying to focus on is still coming out blurry and the background isn't blurry enough (probably because I need to increase the distance between the object and background as you mentioned).

srika

you also need light

Mizouse

my submission is similar to this, but i dont have lightroom or photoshop installed because this computer has faulty ram and i have thus reformatted assuming it was a virus.

anyways i shall download it and submit it

Sly Raskal

iTrader: (1)

Yea, that's always my problem here in the house. I'll try tomorrow when it's brighter.

Mizouse

does this work as bokeh?

im not very creative with titles so ill just call it "bridge of lights"

Sly Raskal

iTrader: (1)

^^^ I thought you have to have an object that you are focused on with a background that is out of focus to be considered "bokeh"

Mizouse

i dunno, but srika's doesnt appear to have an object in focus

Sly Raskal

iTrader: (1)

Yea, the star picture didn't either as well as a few others.

After seeing the wikipedia page again, there was a picture where everything was out of focus, yet the unfocused items made interesting shapes and colors.

Mizouse

does that work for mine??

Street Spirit

As decided many pages ago.... Don't worry about everyone else's interpretation of bokeh. Just have fun shooting and submit your entry.

Discussing the whole definition, or shall I say, one's 'interpretation' of bokeh really didn't accomplish much or draw any conclusions, so I can't see us all agreeing on it now (10 pages later). Everyone will use his/her own discretion (and interpretation of the theme) when voting.

Mizouse

then what do you think of my picture then?

that bad?

Street Spirit

Relax.

I wasn't referencing your photo (indirectly) at all in my last post. I've already given my own personal definition and understanding of bokeh (many pages ago), and have demonstrated it with my photo submission. Some here agree with my particular interpretation of the term, some do not.

Many people have submitted entries and then ask everyone if their photo is okay. The answer to that is: that's up to you to decide, because with this specific topic, you won't get a consistent answer here. I just don't see the point in going around in circles with the definition, as we've already proven that there just won't be a common/unanimous definition of bokeh among this group of people.

I'm pretty sure we just all decided that people will vote based on their own interpretation of the theme, and really, that's not any different than how the contest is usually run. So don't sweat it.

Regarding your photo in general terms (I'm not even going to consider bokeh vs. no-bokeh) --- but one suggestion would be to always take pictures with a focal point/point-of-interest in mind. Part of what makes photos extra-interesting is having something, or somewhere in the photo that immediately draws your eye and attention......Your eye will usually find it automatically the first time you look at a picture. Even though (I'm assuming) the bridge is the main subject of your shot (aside from the bokeh theme), I find my eyes going everywhere on the picture when I look at it...there's no distinction of what should be grabbing me and pulling me in. Again, only my own thoughts, so take them with a grain of salt.

Mizouse

yea thats what i was thinking as well after i took it. nothing is really in focus and the center of attention =T

Sarlacc

Sure it did.

It was determined its all bullshit, and I dropped my original submission because of it.

Street Spirit

Just to clarify since I see discussion about in-focus/not in-focus... With regards to my focal-point comment a few posts above:

Part of considering a focal point can be to have it in focus, but a lot of it is also the composition of the shot itself, plus a whole variety of other variables. You'll find (naturally) your eye will always gravitate to a certain spot on the picture whether there's nothing in focus, everything in focus, a single thing in focus, or many things in focus. An example I can point to is Dan's submission. Nothing's "in focus", but I find my eye automatically goes to one star in particular. Why? Because he's made it the focal point by keeping the composition interesting (having the star off to the right of the frame), and by using size to capture my attention (that one star is larger).

Street Spirit

Yep, and we all feel bad.



Choosing to submit a particular photo (or not) is your own decision. If you want to submit it, do it. No one's stopping you.

Sarlacc

Nope, I said if people bitched I would play nice and change it. And you people bitched. So you get to live with it.

Sarlacc

fixed

Street Spirit

Well thank you for playing nice. I guess now I will have to live with it. Dammit.


WTF?



Do what you want. No one's forcing you to do anything....over the internet, no less.

Mizouse

Dan Martin

Nice work!

Dan Martin

I like how you used the lights to give structure to the subject. If you defocused any more, it would have been hard to make out what you were shooting, so there's a nice balance there.

I'm still sticking by my original definition that bokeh refers to out of focus points of light, so your photo demonstrates that very nicely. There's nothing in focus in the frame so the only thing your eye is attracted to is the bokeh, which is perfect for a contest where the theme is bokeh.

The intention of the contest was to have the out of focus areas be the subject of the photo. You could still have a sharp foreground object if you wanted to, but the bokeh in the background would have to be interesting enough to make it the subject. In other words, the focus of the contest is the out-of-focus. The out-of-focus parts have to be interesting.

Dan Martin

Here's a good article by the guy who added the "h" to "boke" so North Americans would pronounce it better: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/co...04-04-04.shtml

wndrlst

Well Said!!




Miz, I like your shot!

moeronn

Could use some NR, but don't have anything other than Picasa and Microsoft Office Picture Manager at work.

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Mizouse that's the best entry I've seen you contribute thus far.

Wisc Badger

no fair I don't have any cool things like that to shoot!


awesome pic

Mizouse

so where is wndrlst's entry?

JJ4Short

Ok I guess I need to crack out the camera and take a real bokeh shot

srika

man yours has plenty of it... geezus who picked bokeh as the theme!!! for the love of all things holy

wndrlst

^What's yer problem, dood?

srika

uh huh

wndrlst

Don't have one yet. I told myself I'm not allowed to enter unless I go out & shoot something new.

Wisc Badger

play nice you two

srika

ps. is that you in your avatar? been always meaning to ask you that.

wndrlst

Oh, no...I'm pretty sure that's a dude.

srika

Oic

srika

nice avatar