Volkswagen: Golf News
#764
Btw I would think this typr r will be somewehere between 40-50k which is out of my price range.
#765
Fahrvergnügen'd
Everything I've heard/read about a Scirocco or Scirocco-R is that it would start in the $30k range for the Scirocco and go over $40k for a Scirocco-R.
VW doesn't have the cajones to take that kind of a gamble and put it up against a 370Z, 135i, G37, etc ...
#766
The sizzle in the Steak
I dont understand why? I would also need a test drive in order to buy my car. Even though I think I already love this car a test drive needs to be done. Maybe you go to the dealer
Aren't the TSI engines more reliable? And they dont have chains for the timing belt correct? Or I dunno if its technically called a timing belt if it has chains.
I remember the FSI engines had quite a few more problems than the TSI.
Aren't the TSI engines more reliable? And they dont have chains for the timing belt correct? Or I dunno if its technically called a timing belt if it has chains.
I remember the FSI engines had quite a few more problems than the TSI.
Is it more reliable? sure, perhaps, There is no Cam-follower issue on the TSI...which was the big "issue" with the FSI engines.
As far as the TSI engine goes, there are no "common-known" issues like there are with the FSI engine.
I wish the R had the TSI engine, however, the FSI on this car would not be a deal breaker for me....I just love this car too much!
#767
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I was looking at buying the new wrx non sti version and the dealer refused to let me test drive it. He said that they dont allow test drives and that if i wanted to drive the car i would have to buy it first. Seems pretty common now even for cheaper cars since car i was looking at was listed at 25k.
Btw I would think this typr r will be somewehere between 40-50k which is out of my price range.
Btw I would think this typr r will be somewehere between 40-50k which is out of my price range.
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#768
I'm the Firestarter
I can see how they wouldn't allow test drives if they figure they have enough people who would be willing to buy one without driving it first. Also a factor might be if they get very low allocation and they can't afford to keep a test-drive unit that they will later have to sell at a discount.
Another factor might be if they don't think you're totally serious, that can happen to the best of us...
Another factor might be if they don't think you're totally serious, that can happen to the best of us...
#769
My first Avatar....
I can see how they wouldn't allow test drives if they figure they have enough people who would be willing to buy one without driving it first. Also a factor might be if they get very low allocation and they can't afford to keep a test-drive unit that they will later have to sell at a discount.
Another factor might be if they don't think you're totally serious, that can happen to the best of us...
Another factor might be if they don't think you're totally serious, that can happen to the best of us...
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And if they have low allocation numbers...that's their problem. If I'm going to consider dropping ANY amount of money on a car....even a used one...I'm driving the exact one I'm considering or, well...you know.
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#770
Fahrvergnügen'd
I was looking at buying the new wrx non sti version and the dealer refused to let me test drive it. He said that they dont allow test drives and that if i wanted to drive the car i would have to buy it first. Seems pretty common now even for cheaper cars since car i was looking at was listed at 25k.
Btw I would think this typr r will be somewehere between 40-50k which is out of my price range.
Btw I would think this typr r will be somewehere between 40-50k which is out of my price range.
Unless of course, the Euro jumps to $1.80:1 ...
#771
The sizzle in the Steak
QE2 FTL.
#772
I'm the Firestarter
Yeah but we're talking about a Subie wrx. Not exactly a Veyron. I just can't imagine taking delivery of a car that I'ver never driven. Just doesn't compute. ![Screwy](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/screwy.gif)
And if they have low allocation numbers...that's their problem. If I'm going to consider dropping ANY amount of money on a car....even a used one...I'm driving the exact one I'm considering or, well...you know.![Wink](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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And if they have low allocation numbers...that's their problem. If I'm going to consider dropping ANY amount of money on a car....even a used one...I'm driving the exact one I'm considering or, well...you know.
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#773
The sizzle in the Steak
Just like with the R32, the Golf-R for most people really won't need a test drive to sell them on it. They already want it, they won't need to test drive it.
#774
My first Avatar....
#775
Suzuka Master
I know, but I really wouldn't want my warranty to be voided. Even if I change the settings back to a normal set up so the Dealer can't see it. But what if my car won't turn on, and I'm not able to change the setting back ![what](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/what.gif)
Plus it will probably cost more than the $700 or w/e the price is now for the apr tune for the GTI.
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Plus it will probably cost more than the $700 or w/e the price is now for the apr tune for the GTI.
#776
Suzuka Master
The TSI engine has many changes...among the changes: intake, timing chain.
Is it more reliable? sure, perhaps, There is no Cam-follower issue on the TSI...which was the big "issue" with the FSI engines.
As far as the TSI engine goes, there are no "common-known" issues like there are with the FSI engine.
I wish the R had the TSI engine, however, the FSI on this car would not be a deal breaker for me....I just love this car too much!
Is it more reliable? sure, perhaps, There is no Cam-follower issue on the TSI...which was the big "issue" with the FSI engines.
As far as the TSI engine goes, there are no "common-known" issues like there are with the FSI engine.
I wish the R had the TSI engine, however, the FSI on this car would not be a deal breaker for me....I just love this car too much!
#777
The sizzle in the Steak
...and yes, if you are in the market for a previously owned GTI, get the TSI engine 2008.5 to 2010.
#778
My first Avatar....
So the new R has the FSI? Why would they use it when most feel the TSI is better?
Just asking....
Just asking....
#779
The sizzle in the Steak
#780
Fahrvergnügen'd
But I think the bigger issue for people is the torque curve. But again, I'm sure APR is going to fix that
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#781
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ APR is going to "fix" a lot of things for the Golf R....
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#782
Suzuka Master
Leather is standard and VW is pushing for a starting price for under $34k. Wonder if HID headlights will be standard. Then the only main options would be navi and dyno audio. Which actually comes out to a pretty good price compared to the STI and EVO. Which may have less standard, I know leather is optional. And this being a much better daily driver than those two, and being able to drive it everywhere without looking as a boy racer. I've always wanted the GTI, but if there is any way I can go straight to this car, I would. But getting a car 10 grand more than you were thinking is a lot more. And I dont think I'll have that money until my career starts. Which means it will probably stop selling by the time I'm able to get one
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#783
My first Avatar....
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Ok...But I thought the TSI was already in the 2008.5 and newer GTIs...
So why would it need re-certification? Why am I so
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#784
Fahrvergnügen'd
Leather is standard and VW is pushing for a starting price for under $34k. Wonder if HID headlights will be standard. Then the only main options would be navi and dyno audio. Which actually comes out to a pretty good price compared to the STI and EVO. Which may have less standard, I know leather is optional. And this being a much better daily driver than those two, and being able to drive it everywhere without looking as a boy racer. I've always wanted the GTI, but if there is any way I can go straight to this car, I would. But getting a car 10 grand more than you were thinking is a lot more. And I dont think I'll have that money until my career starts. Which means it will probably stop selling by the time I'm able to get one ![Frown](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
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That's probably an Autobahn-esque pricing model right there ... Figure $3000.
#786
Suzuka Master
Sooo does anyone remember the rumors of them introducing the mk7 in 2012, back when the mk6 was coming out. Now I saw some post on another forum of the mk7 coming 2013. I remember that the mk6 is suppose to have a very short life span. I wonder whats gonna happen then. Will the golf R just sell for 1 year?
#787
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ I dunno if it will be just one year, however, I think for sure it's not going to be a mass quantity car. Like the R32 (which only 5,000 came stateside) I think the Golf R will be the same.
#788
How is the GTI doing? Any issues? What mods do you have?
The GTI will most likely be my next car. I was really excited to hear that the R was coming but for the money, I rather have a heavily modified GTI.
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#789
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ GTI is running fine. No issues whatsoever. Runs like a turbo charged watch :wink:
#790
Suzuka Master
Golf R will also be easy to tune, I assume. APR will come out with something for sure. Also its AWD.
Ohh and the fact that these aren't the most reliable cars, would you not be scared to mod and have something go wrong. I know I would be.
#791
Aint Doing Sh*t
The all seems to get really hostile at just a mention of DSG. As if the R is too sacred for anything other than a manual. Its a shame that VW wont bring both.
#792
The sizzle in the Steak
Next vw golf to bow in late 2012 or early 2013
A VW spokesman recently revealed that the all-new Golf will debut at the “end of 2012 or early 2013.” VW CEO Martin Winterkorn previously stated the new Golf would bow in November 2012, but no month was given in the latest report.
The next Golf will be the first Volkswagen-branded product to ride on the company’s new MQB architecture. The modular transverse architecture is expected to net VW double-digit percentage savings, thanks to its ability to be used across both brands and models.
Given a European market launch of late 2012, the new Golf won’t likely surface in the United States until sometime in 2013.
The new Audi A3, due out in mid-2012, will be the first vehicle to utilize VW’s MQB architecture.
The next Golf will be the first Volkswagen-branded product to ride on the company’s new MQB architecture. The modular transverse architecture is expected to net VW double-digit percentage savings, thanks to its ability to be used across both brands and models.
Given a European market launch of late 2012, the new Golf won’t likely surface in the United States until sometime in 2013.
The new Audi A3, due out in mid-2012, will be the first vehicle to utilize VW’s MQB architecture.
#793
Suzuka Master
^ saw that yesterday
a ltl more info here
http://rumors.automobilemag.com/all-...012-15027.html
I really hope the golf platfrom doesnt get cheapened like the jetta and passat. Especially the GTI variant! Or else VW just lost one more vw enthusiast.
a ltl more info here
We’re fans of Volkswagen’s Golf in just about any form — especially in GTI trim — and can’t wait for the next-generation car. It turns out we’ll have to wait at least another 22 months, as new reports suggest the seventh-generation Golf will launch in 2012.
Unlike the last car, the Mk VII Golf’s biggest change won’t simply rest with sheet metal. Instead, the new compact — set to be offered in both hatchback and convertible forms — will be Volkswagen’s first model to ride on the company’s MQB modular transverse architecture, a platform slated to underpin nearly 37 models globally. It won’t, however, be the first to use MQB — Audi’s new A3, due next summer, will likely bear that honor.
We first heard about the MQB’s future use back in November of 2009, but VW has apparently spoken out on the platform’s possibilities. The automaker suggests spreading one platform across so many models can provide a double-digit cost savings. Better yet, don’t expect those models to be cookie-cutter clones of one another. Thanks to some ingenious engineering, the architecture can easily be shortened, lengthened, and widened, allowing it to underpin a number of front-wheel-drive and all-wheel-drive models.
Apart from the new platform, expect the new Golf to push the fuel economy envelope. Automobilewoche suggests the new car will receive smaller, more efficient powertrains all around, but didn’t reveal any additional details as to their displacement, induction, or fuel type. One option already confirmed for the new car, however, won’t use any fuel. Although currently installed in a number of prototypes, Volkswagen’s Blue-E-Motion electric driveline will finally be offered to consumers in the Mk VII Golf. According to the company, the electric variant will reach production by 2014, and will be priced “affordably.”
We’re interested, however, in what Volkswagen does with Golfs headed for North America. We wouldn’t be surprised if the automaker elects to strip some premium content from entry-level models to compete on pricing — after all, a similar tactic was used for both the new 2011 Jetta and the 2011 Passat. Look for more information on the new Golf to emerge closer to the end of the year.
Unlike the last car, the Mk VII Golf’s biggest change won’t simply rest with sheet metal. Instead, the new compact — set to be offered in both hatchback and convertible forms — will be Volkswagen’s first model to ride on the company’s MQB modular transverse architecture, a platform slated to underpin nearly 37 models globally. It won’t, however, be the first to use MQB — Audi’s new A3, due next summer, will likely bear that honor.
We first heard about the MQB’s future use back in November of 2009, but VW has apparently spoken out on the platform’s possibilities. The automaker suggests spreading one platform across so many models can provide a double-digit cost savings. Better yet, don’t expect those models to be cookie-cutter clones of one another. Thanks to some ingenious engineering, the architecture can easily be shortened, lengthened, and widened, allowing it to underpin a number of front-wheel-drive and all-wheel-drive models.
Apart from the new platform, expect the new Golf to push the fuel economy envelope. Automobilewoche suggests the new car will receive smaller, more efficient powertrains all around, but didn’t reveal any additional details as to their displacement, induction, or fuel type. One option already confirmed for the new car, however, won’t use any fuel. Although currently installed in a number of prototypes, Volkswagen’s Blue-E-Motion electric driveline will finally be offered to consumers in the Mk VII Golf. According to the company, the electric variant will reach production by 2014, and will be priced “affordably.”
We’re interested, however, in what Volkswagen does with Golfs headed for North America. We wouldn’t be surprised if the automaker elects to strip some premium content from entry-level models to compete on pricing — after all, a similar tactic was used for both the new 2011 Jetta and the 2011 Passat. Look for more information on the new Golf to emerge closer to the end of the year.
I really hope the golf platfrom doesnt get cheapened like the jetta and passat. Especially the GTI variant! Or else VW just lost one more vw enthusiast.
#794
Suzuka Master
So vw said they are trying to keep the base around $33,000 but we get a hp decrease than the euro version
256 hp instead of the 270. And the awesome LED tails!!!
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As part of its 2011 Geneva Motor Show festivities, Volkswagen is letting us loose behind the wheel of its range-topping Golf R, set to arrive in United States as a 2012 model. Production of the Stadeside-spec car begins at the automaker's Wolfsburg plant this November, and we've just learned how different our version of the Golf R will be from the model that's already on sale in Europe.
Don't worry – we're still getting the same 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine mated to the company's fourth-generation Haldex 4Motion all-wheel-drive system. But while the European car cranks out 270 horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque, Volkswagen tells us that the U.S. car will produce something closer to 256 hp and 243 lb-ft (not yet confirmed). Still, that's 56 hp and 36 lb-ft more than the standard GTI, and since the Golf R is estimated to weigh around 3,300 pounds – 250 pounds lighter than the most recent R32 – the end result should be quite lively. Volkswagen is estimating that 0-62 mile-per-hour times will fall somewhere in the 5.7- to 5.9-second range.
As we reported earlier, the Golf R will only be offered with a six-speed manual transmission when it hits our shores. European cars can be had with Volkswagen's slick-shifting DSG unit, and we must admit, not offering the twin-clutch setup in the States seems like a curious omission, especially when you consider that the take rate on DSG in the less powerful GTI is around 50 percent. Still, Volkswagen says that its research with different enthusiast groups and dealers suggests that the vast majority of U.S. consumers have been clamoring for a row-your-own Golf R, and since the automaker had to keep the number of build options to a minimum in order to get the vehicle approved for American consumption, manual-only was the way they decided to go.
On the subject of reducing the number of build configurations, all U.S. Golf Rs will be outfitted almost exactly the same way. The only options available will be a choice of two and four doors, as well as a package that incorporates things like a sunroof, navigation, smart key and the Dynaudio sound system. We will not be able to spec the Golf R with the super-supportive motorsport-designed seats available in Europe (a €3,800 option – over $5,200 USD, for what it's worth), and all Golf R interiors will be leather only. Sadly, the Euro-spec LED taillamps will not be carried over to the U.S. Golf R, as well.
As for pricing, Volkswagen is targeting a base MSRP of around $33,000 – right about where the 2008 R32 was priced. During the Golf R's run here in the U.S., Volkswagen hopes to move about 5,000 of the little hot hatches – in total, not annually. If demand meets or exceeds supply, Volkswagen will have a better case for bringing a next-generation Golf R to our shores, as well. We'll be driving the Golf R later this week in Europe, so stay tuned for our full repor
Don't worry – we're still getting the same 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine mated to the company's fourth-generation Haldex 4Motion all-wheel-drive system. But while the European car cranks out 270 horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque, Volkswagen tells us that the U.S. car will produce something closer to 256 hp and 243 lb-ft (not yet confirmed). Still, that's 56 hp and 36 lb-ft more than the standard GTI, and since the Golf R is estimated to weigh around 3,300 pounds – 250 pounds lighter than the most recent R32 – the end result should be quite lively. Volkswagen is estimating that 0-62 mile-per-hour times will fall somewhere in the 5.7- to 5.9-second range.
As we reported earlier, the Golf R will only be offered with a six-speed manual transmission when it hits our shores. European cars can be had with Volkswagen's slick-shifting DSG unit, and we must admit, not offering the twin-clutch setup in the States seems like a curious omission, especially when you consider that the take rate on DSG in the less powerful GTI is around 50 percent. Still, Volkswagen says that its research with different enthusiast groups and dealers suggests that the vast majority of U.S. consumers have been clamoring for a row-your-own Golf R, and since the automaker had to keep the number of build options to a minimum in order to get the vehicle approved for American consumption, manual-only was the way they decided to go.
On the subject of reducing the number of build configurations, all U.S. Golf Rs will be outfitted almost exactly the same way. The only options available will be a choice of two and four doors, as well as a package that incorporates things like a sunroof, navigation, smart key and the Dynaudio sound system. We will not be able to spec the Golf R with the super-supportive motorsport-designed seats available in Europe (a €3,800 option – over $5,200 USD, for what it's worth), and all Golf R interiors will be leather only. Sadly, the Euro-spec LED taillamps will not be carried over to the U.S. Golf R, as well.
As for pricing, Volkswagen is targeting a base MSRP of around $33,000 – right about where the 2008 R32 was priced. During the Golf R's run here in the U.S., Volkswagen hopes to move about 5,000 of the little hot hatches – in total, not annually. If demand meets or exceeds supply, Volkswagen will have a better case for bringing a next-generation Golf R to our shores, as well. We'll be driving the Golf R later this week in Europe, so stay tuned for our full repor
#795
The sizzle in the Steak
I wonder if the bhp drop is due to emissions.
#796
I feel the need...
How many miles have you racked up so far? The new R version sounds sweet as long as it isn't overpriced. I see dealers around here offering pretty sick deals on GTI leases.
I'm still happy with my 6MT TL though. If/when I finally pull the trigger on a sports car, I would consider leasing sie deutsch as a commuter.
I'm still happy with my 6MT TL though. If/when I finally pull the trigger on a sports car, I would consider leasing sie deutsch as a commuter.
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#797
Suzuka Master
#798
The sizzle in the Steak
How many miles have you racked up so far? The new R version sounds sweet as long as it isn't overpriced. I see dealers around here offering pretty sick deals on GTI leases.
I'm still happy with my 6MT TL though. If/when I finally pull the trigger on a sports car, I would consider leasing sie deutsch as a commuter.![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I'm still happy with my 6MT TL though. If/when I finally pull the trigger on a sports car, I would consider leasing sie deutsch as a commuter.
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#800
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ wrong thread.