United Auto Workers (UAW) News
#122
Engineer
They gotta start somewhere and if we're lucky a momentum could be built to take them all down...
#124
אני עומד עם ישראל
GM had the opportunity to dump the UAW after going BK, but we all know that didn't happen....
#126
First question, no they only have the right to petition the workers to vote on a union as I understand it. And that petitioning has limitations (you can't ask them to vote every month on it, etc.).
Second question, my guess is sizzle. There are only a few foreign plants in the states that were/are union. NUMMI was union and apparently Toyota would never agree to job classification. UAW though by giving in on that they stood a chance getting into the Kentucky Toyota plant, never happened.The only auto maker that ever stood up to the UAW to the point that it meant destrying both of them was VW. Back in the 70's with their PA plant, VW shut down the entire plant temporarily when the UAW made some comments about a potential strike. Didn't save the plant it ultimately closed due to other factors.
Besides the salaries and the job banks the biggest problem with the UAW is that your job would be "classified" meaning if you worked in the paint shop and the stamping operation needed some temporary workers to get new tooling setup you could not go over there and help. This way the UAW could bloat their membership.
It also created major problems for the US automakers, so you'd find parts of the plant needing workers and having problems getting stuff done and on the other side there would be workers standing around.
You didn'y have a workforce that could be flexible in moving around workers. This happens every day in the foreign plants, and another thing is they allow temp workers to work. Some of those temp workers get permanent positions. From what I've read job satisfaction at the non-union auto plants is higher than union.
The only thing I know about the latest contract is the UAW agreed to 1/2 the salaries for the new workers (some hired back laid off) to preserve the pension fund of the older workers. Bottom line UAW's glory days of raping and destroying the US auto industry are gone.
Second question, my guess is sizzle. There are only a few foreign plants in the states that were/are union. NUMMI was union and apparently Toyota would never agree to job classification. UAW though by giving in on that they stood a chance getting into the Kentucky Toyota plant, never happened.The only auto maker that ever stood up to the UAW to the point that it meant destrying both of them was VW. Back in the 70's with their PA plant, VW shut down the entire plant temporarily when the UAW made some comments about a potential strike. Didn't save the plant it ultimately closed due to other factors.
Besides the salaries and the job banks the biggest problem with the UAW is that your job would be "classified" meaning if you worked in the paint shop and the stamping operation needed some temporary workers to get new tooling setup you could not go over there and help. This way the UAW could bloat their membership.
It also created major problems for the US automakers, so you'd find parts of the plant needing workers and having problems getting stuff done and on the other side there would be workers standing around.
You didn'y have a workforce that could be flexible in moving around workers. This happens every day in the foreign plants, and another thing is they allow temp workers to work. Some of those temp workers get permanent positions. From what I've read job satisfaction at the non-union auto plants is higher than union.
The only thing I know about the latest contract is the UAW agreed to 1/2 the salaries for the new workers (some hired back laid off) to preserve the pension fund of the older workers. Bottom line UAW's glory days of raping and destroying the US auto industry are gone.
I can imagine that fund only grows bigger and bigger every year.
#127
Fahrvergnügen'd
Why a local, state, federal employee has the right to unionize (or feels the need to) is beyond me but that's a separate discussion I guess.
#129
Safety Car
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Mitsubishi will shift to a new family of vehicles at its Illinois plant within 2 years, a source familiar with the company's plans said.
The vehicles will be based on the platform underpinning the Outlander and Outlander Sport crossovers and Lancer sedan, the source said. Those models are currently built in Japan.
Mitsubishi's U.S. factory, in Normal, Ill., currently builds the Galant sedan, Endeavor crossover, Eclipse coupe and Eclipse Spyder. Those vehicles will be phased-out by the fiscal year that begins in April 2013, Japan's Nikkei reported earlier today. A spokesman for Mitsubishi Motors North America's manufacturing division called the report “speculation.”
When production of the new models will begin is unclear.
The future of the Illinois plant will be addressed in the automaker's mid-term global business plan. Mitsubishi is expected to release the strategy in coming weeks.
At stake is the job security of some 1,100 UAW-represented workers at the plant.
Mitsubishi sold 55,683 vehicles in the United States last year, up 3% from 2009 in a market that advanced 11%.
#130
AZ Community Team
In terms of pensions, from what I know nothing was as bad as the US Steelworkers unions. Besides foreign competition the pension funding drove the US steelmills out of business.
#131
AZ Community Team
IIRC the only current foreign UAW plants are Mitsubishi and Mazda. The now closed NUMMI (Toyota/GM) and VW planst were UAW. MB, BMW, Toyota, Honda, Nissan US plants are all non-union.
Mitsubishi will shift to a new family of vehicles at its Illinois plant within 2 years, a source familiar with the company's plans said.
The vehicles will be based on the platform underpinning the Outlander and Outlander Sport crossovers and Lancer sedan, the source said. Those models are currently built in Japan.
Mitsubishi's U.S. factory, in Normal, Ill., currently builds the Galant sedan, Endeavor crossover, Eclipse coupe and Eclipse Spyder. Those vehicles will be phased-out by the fiscal year that begins in April 2013, Japan's Nikkei reported earlier today. A spokesman for Mitsubishi Motors North America's manufacturing division called the report “speculation.”
When production of the new models will begin is unclear.
The future of the Illinois plant will be addressed in the automaker's mid-term global business plan. Mitsubishi is expected to release the strategy in coming weeks.
At stake is the job security of some 1,100 UAW-represented workers at the plant.
Mitsubishi sold 55,683 vehicles in the United States last year, up 3% from 2009 in a market that advanced 11%.
Mitsubishi will shift to a new family of vehicles at its Illinois plant within 2 years, a source familiar with the company's plans said.
The vehicles will be based on the platform underpinning the Outlander and Outlander Sport crossovers and Lancer sedan, the source said. Those models are currently built in Japan.
Mitsubishi's U.S. factory, in Normal, Ill., currently builds the Galant sedan, Endeavor crossover, Eclipse coupe and Eclipse Spyder. Those vehicles will be phased-out by the fiscal year that begins in April 2013, Japan's Nikkei reported earlier today. A spokesman for Mitsubishi Motors North America's manufacturing division called the report “speculation.”
When production of the new models will begin is unclear.
The future of the Illinois plant will be addressed in the automaker's mid-term global business plan. Mitsubishi is expected to release the strategy in coming weeks.
At stake is the job security of some 1,100 UAW-represented workers at the plant.
Mitsubishi sold 55,683 vehicles in the United States last year, up 3% from 2009 in a market that advanced 11%.
#132
Safety Car
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SAN FRANCISCO -- Eyeing last year’s picketing of Toyota dealerships by UAW members, John Mendel, American Honda executive vice president, voiced his opposition to any UAW threats to Honda’s non-union status.
“The union announced that they’re going to target the operations of international automakers this year,” Mendel said in a speech to the American International Automobile Dealers Association.
“The issue of union representation is 1 for our associates to decide, not us,” Mendel said. “Having said that, we do not believe that an outside party will improve upon [our] outstanding track record of success … over the past 30-plus years.”
Mendel cautioned that, despite these tactics from “the kinder, gentler UAW,” import-brand dealers should not engage in counterproductive tactics, but should “remain focused on your relationship with your customers and associates.”
#133
lol, kindler and gentler UAW. ![Bullshit](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/bs.gif)
to Honda for squishing the bug before it burrows deep within and reproduces like cancer
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#134
The sizzle in the Steak
Unions: Destroying Car Companies, States,......economies.
#135
Race Director
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...ing----again/1
The Fox TV station in Detroit has again caught on video Chrysler union workers smoking dope and drinking before work and on their lunch break.
This time it was not in a public park, but in the parking lot of their nearby United Auto Workers union hall, before they headed back to finish their shift at Chrysler Group's Trenton engine plant that builds the new Fiat 4-cylinder for world use.
FOX 2 reporter Rob Wolchek says he got calls from two workers in the plant who told him that working with people who have been getting high is dangerous.
This is the same Fox reported who last fall caught workers at Chrysler's Jefferson North Plant in Detroit spending their lunch hour drinking beer before going back to build the newly launched Jeep Grand Cherokee. The video was a severe embarrassment for Chrysler, which took action against the workers, and for the union.
The station says Chrysler sent people to the station to review the latest video and the station posted on its website this reaction from Scott Garberding, Chrysler senior vice president of manufacturing:
"I just want to say I am both hurt and angered over what your cameras captured. Again, we have Chrysler workers in a compromised position, without regard for the impact of their actions, the reputation of their coworkers, the plant, of the company, not to mention their own reputation and that of their families. As a company, in the last two years we've come too far and made way too much progress to let the bad actions of a few put a shadow on the rest of the employees. And to be clear, we've got a code of conduct at Chrysler and some of the activities that we saw in your video are clearly outside of the code of conduct and unacceptable. The employees that we identify, as soon as we understand who they are, will be suspended indefinitely without pay and anybody else involved will be dealt with swiftly. It's very frustrating to us, we take it very seriously. We have a lot of very committed folks at Chrysler. We are very proud of our team. We have some folks who apparently do not want to be part of that team."
This time it was not in a public park, but in the parking lot of their nearby United Auto Workers union hall, before they headed back to finish their shift at Chrysler Group's Trenton engine plant that builds the new Fiat 4-cylinder for world use.
FOX 2 reporter Rob Wolchek says he got calls from two workers in the plant who told him that working with people who have been getting high is dangerous.
This is the same Fox reported who last fall caught workers at Chrysler's Jefferson North Plant in Detroit spending their lunch hour drinking beer before going back to build the newly launched Jeep Grand Cherokee. The video was a severe embarrassment for Chrysler, which took action against the workers, and for the union.
The station says Chrysler sent people to the station to review the latest video and the station posted on its website this reaction from Scott Garberding, Chrysler senior vice president of manufacturing:
"I just want to say I am both hurt and angered over what your cameras captured. Again, we have Chrysler workers in a compromised position, without regard for the impact of their actions, the reputation of their coworkers, the plant, of the company, not to mention their own reputation and that of their families. As a company, in the last two years we've come too far and made way too much progress to let the bad actions of a few put a shadow on the rest of the employees. And to be clear, we've got a code of conduct at Chrysler and some of the activities that we saw in your video are clearly outside of the code of conduct and unacceptable. The employees that we identify, as soon as we understand who they are, will be suspended indefinitely without pay and anybody else involved will be dealt with swiftly. It's very frustrating to us, we take it very seriously. We have a lot of very committed folks at Chrysler. We are very proud of our team. We have some folks who apparently do not want to be part of that team."
#136
Race Director
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#137
I drive a Subata.
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#141
אני עומד עם ישראל
#142
Dragging knees in
iTrader: (2)
Just ten months ago, Chrysler's Jefferson North Plant employees were caught doing the exact same thing. Now this... in front of the UAW hall.
It's indicative of the typical union mentality and the lack of appreciation they have for the taxpayers' bailout of the company, their jobs and their pension
Taxpayers -> Feds -> Detroit 3 -> VEBA -> UAW
It's indicative of the typical union mentality and the lack of appreciation they have for the taxpayers' bailout of the company, their jobs and their pension
Taxpayers -> Feds -> Detroit 3 -> VEBA -> UAW
#143
Senior Moderator
Just ten months ago, Chrysler's Jefferson North Plant employees were caught doing the exact same thing. Now this... in front of the UAW hall.
It's indicative of the typical union mentality and the lack of appreciation they have for the taxpayers' bailout of the company, their jobs and their pension
Taxpayers -> Feds -> Detroit 3 -> VEBA -> UAW
It's indicative of the typical union mentality and the lack of appreciation they have for the taxpayers' bailout of the company, their jobs and their pension
Taxpayers -> Feds -> Detroit 3 -> VEBA -> UAW
#144
AZ Community Team
UAW sees its future: organize Southern US plants
#145
Dragging knees in
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Gary Casteel's points are a joke.
If there really were fear and intimidation, and the UAW thought it would stick, they would have already filed unfair labor practice charges with the NLRB.
Getting paid as low as $12 per hour? Where? He doesn't name it, because no OEM pays that low. By the way, Gary, aren't your own UAW folks getting paid $14 per hour because the UAW decided to screw their own membership by agreeing to the 2-tier wage structure? Toyota employees are getting more than UAW members. Other transplants are very close. Your companies went bankcrupt while the non-union companies survived and are thriving. What's the purpose of the UAW here?
Didn't your UAW also try to chip away at the pillar of democracy by taking away the right to a secret ballot election from employees? So you could use fear and intimidation (deja vu) to get them to sign cards? Role model of democracy and fairness.
Speaking of role model, didn't your Vice President General Holifield just get booked on domestic battery charges for assault on his wife during the divorce proceedings? Nice.
Instead of helping the Detroit Three become more competitive by lowering the labor costs, your goal is to instead organize other companies by intimidating them with the 11 Principles and the subsequent global smear tactic campaign, so you could you raise their labor costs to a more comparable level with the Detroit Three?
It seems backwards. Instead of helping the companies be more competitive in an open and free market, let's try to make EVERYBODY UNcompetitive. That's your idea of a level playing field? Right, the ONLY one to benefit from this is the UAW.
If there really were fear and intimidation, and the UAW thought it would stick, they would have already filed unfair labor practice charges with the NLRB.
Getting paid as low as $12 per hour? Where? He doesn't name it, because no OEM pays that low. By the way, Gary, aren't your own UAW folks getting paid $14 per hour because the UAW decided to screw their own membership by agreeing to the 2-tier wage structure? Toyota employees are getting more than UAW members. Other transplants are very close. Your companies went bankcrupt while the non-union companies survived and are thriving. What's the purpose of the UAW here?
Didn't your UAW also try to chip away at the pillar of democracy by taking away the right to a secret ballot election from employees? So you could use fear and intimidation (deja vu) to get them to sign cards? Role model of democracy and fairness.
Speaking of role model, didn't your Vice President General Holifield just get booked on domestic battery charges for assault on his wife during the divorce proceedings? Nice.
Instead of helping the Detroit Three become more competitive by lowering the labor costs, your goal is to instead organize other companies by intimidating them with the 11 Principles and the subsequent global smear tactic campaign, so you could you raise their labor costs to a more comparable level with the Detroit Three?
It seems backwards. Instead of helping the companies be more competitive in an open and free market, let's try to make EVERYBODY UNcompetitive. That's your idea of a level playing field? Right, the ONLY one to benefit from this is the UAW.
#146
6G TLX-S
#147
AZ Community Team
Chrysler suspends workers caught drinking on TV
#148
AZ Community Team
http://news.yahoo.com/uaw-says-talks...211548758.html
UAW's tough-talk days are long gone. I'd bet none of the foreign automaker signs a deal
UAW's tough-talk days are long gone. I'd bet none of the foreign automaker signs a deal
#149
אני עומד עם ישראל
Kick rocks UAW...
#150
Race Director
The union has not been successful in getting any of the non-U.S. automakers to agree to allow organizers into their U.S. plants.
#151
Senior Moderator
#152
AZ Community Team
Exclusive: UAW steps up bid to organize VW U.S. plant: sources
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...82M00M20120323
In the 70's when the UAW unionized the Pennsylvania VW plant, they threatened to strike. There was a decent surplus of their cars at the time so VW shut down the plant for a month just to show the UAW that VW doesn't play around when it comes to unions.
In the 70's when the UAW unionized the Pennsylvania VW plant, they threatened to strike. There was a decent surplus of their cars at the time so VW shut down the plant for a month just to show the UAW that VW doesn't play around when it comes to unions.
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#153
99 TL, 06 E350
#154
Race Director
The United Auto Workers still needs to reform, and a federal takeover remains an option, the U.S. prosecutor leading the investigation of corruption within the union told Reuters on Wednesday after the UAW’s former president pleaded guilty to embezzlement.
“The union needs to change, quite simply,” Matthew Schneider, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan, said in an interview, adding that a possible takeover of the UAW “absolutely” remained an option.
“Now that we’re getting these pleas out of the way, there’s a more urgent need to reform the union and fix it,” Schneider said.
Former UAW president Gary Jones pleaded guilty to charges he embezzled more than $1 million of union funds. Schneider said he wants to meet as soon as possible with UAW President Rory Gamble as the investigation moves into a “new stage.”
Gamble on Wednesday said the actions of Jones and others involved “were selfish, immoral and against everything we stand for as a union.”
UAW spokesman Brian Rothenberg said Gamble looks forward to meeting with Schneider.
“The UAW has made significant changes since Mr. Jones resigned and continues to look at ways to reform,” Rothenberg said.
Jones, of Canton, Michigan, entered the plea during a videoconference hearing held by the U.S. District Court in Detroit. Jones had entered a not guilty plea last month, but he had previously been charged in a criminal information, suggesting he had reached a deal with prosecutors.
“I apologize to my UAW family for the betrayal of their trust and pray they will forgive me,” Jones said during the hearing.
Judge Paul Borman accepted the plea and set a sentencing date of Oct. 6. Jones, who remains free on bail, agreed to cooperate with the government in the prosecution of others, which could lessen his sentence.
Jones, a certified public accountant, was charged with conspiracy to embezzle funds from the UAW from 2010 through September 2019, and with conspiracy to defraud the United States by failing to pay taxes on the money prosecutors charge he stole. He resigned from the union last November.
Jones, 63, faces a maximum of five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000 for each count. The sides agreed to a sentencing guideline range of 46 to 57 months.
“The union needs to change, quite simply,” Matthew Schneider, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan, said in an interview, adding that a possible takeover of the UAW “absolutely” remained an option.
“Now that we’re getting these pleas out of the way, there’s a more urgent need to reform the union and fix it,” Schneider said.
Former UAW president Gary Jones pleaded guilty to charges he embezzled more than $1 million of union funds. Schneider said he wants to meet as soon as possible with UAW President Rory Gamble as the investigation moves into a “new stage.”
Gamble on Wednesday said the actions of Jones and others involved “were selfish, immoral and against everything we stand for as a union.”
UAW spokesman Brian Rothenberg said Gamble looks forward to meeting with Schneider.
“The UAW has made significant changes since Mr. Jones resigned and continues to look at ways to reform,” Rothenberg said.
Jones, of Canton, Michigan, entered the plea during a videoconference hearing held by the U.S. District Court in Detroit. Jones had entered a not guilty plea last month, but he had previously been charged in a criminal information, suggesting he had reached a deal with prosecutors.
“I apologize to my UAW family for the betrayal of their trust and pray they will forgive me,” Jones said during the hearing.
Judge Paul Borman accepted the plea and set a sentencing date of Oct. 6. Jones, who remains free on bail, agreed to cooperate with the government in the prosecution of others, which could lessen his sentence.
Jones, a certified public accountant, was charged with conspiracy to embezzle funds from the UAW from 2010 through September 2019, and with conspiracy to defraud the United States by failing to pay taxes on the money prosecutors charge he stole. He resigned from the union last November.
Jones, 63, faces a maximum of five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000 for each count. The sides agreed to a sentencing guideline range of 46 to 57 months.
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