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Old 11-29-2021, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
This thing is sold in Oakland not in your area. and people who can really afford to park two cars inside garage will not be looking RAV4 prime.
RAV4 prime is for working class here who really need to drive alot.

not everything is captured in statistics. and surely any breakins will cost insurance rates to skyrocket into thousands not to mention waiting for glass repair.. I am not even counting cat converters theft.

Of course they will. Parking two cars inside is solidly middle class America. That said, I park three cars inside and can't afford a $100k RAV4 lol.
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Most of my neighbors park in their garage, except the few with 3-4 kids & a garage full of bikes & such.
Looking at recent listing prices, these are houses in the 3-600k range.
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Of course they will. Parking two cars inside is solidly middle class America. That said, I park three cars inside and can't afford a $100k RAV4 lol.
I can assure you this RAV4 Prime sale location is not where middle class people can afford two cars inside the garage.
every market is local.
click on street view. how many garages you see and how many cars in driveway. Property tax already $30K a year.
https://www.redfin.com/CA/Oakland/62...8/home/1649857

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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2

Most of my neighbors park in their garage, except the few with 3-4 kids & a garage full of bikes & such.
Looking at recent listing prices, these are houses in the 3-600k range.
I always lol at TX real estate being so fucking cheap. You've posted pics of your house and if you moved that here it would be $700k-$800k.

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I can assure you this RAV4 Prime sale location is not where middle class people can afford two cars inside the garage.
every market is local.
click on street view. how many garages you see and how many cars in driveway. Property tax already $30K a year.
https://www.redfin.com/CA/Oakland/62...8/home/1649857
The house in the link you posted has a two car garage and no cars in the driveway so...
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And, we got in when the market was much softer. It is tempting to sell, with the equity we'd make on it, but I really don't want to move, again.
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2

And, we got in when the market was much softer. It is tempting to sell, with the equity we'd make on it, but I really don't want to move, again.
same here.
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1

The house in the link you posted has a two car garage and no cars in the driveway so...
I said check the street view. there are two German SUV in driveway.
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I said check the street view. there are two German SUV in driveway.
And? Still a two car garage.
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Its with two German SUVs. how many families afford two German SUVs with only 3 bedroom in home and basically one bathroom.
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Its with two German SUVs. how many families afford two German SUVs with only 3 bedroom in home and basically one bathroom.
Probably lots of them. What's your point?
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How we could go from a $50k markup on a RAV4 to how many cars you can park in your garage is a achievement is on its own... you guys are being played by him
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How we could go from a $50k markup on a RAV4 to how many cars you can park in your garage is a achievement is on its own... you guys are being played by him
According to this chart the marriage rate in California is definitely correlated to the number of Japanese passenger cars sold in the US so definitely people can afford a $100k RAV4.

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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
Probably lots of them. What's your point?
The point is they have two German SUVs thats why they have 2 car garage in that area even with compromise on space at home.
for single garage family. they are not llkely buying two expensive SUVs. One will be beatup vehicles parked on the street and second one will be parked in single garage. but they will still try to save money on gas/maintaince/insurance.
Toyota Hybrids brakes last longer than non hybrid Toyotas not to mention hybrid advantage in traffic.
this has single garage. look around street view. there is no SUVs like the two car garage homes had.
https://www.redfin.com/CA/Oakland/95...08/home/528249
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if someone pays 100k for a Rav4, they deserve to get robbed... either at their home or at the dealership....
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You are making fun of plug in $100K RAV4 that will last 30 years and save countless money for owners when parked in safety of garage. People will have to make compromise for things that they actually needed.
some people do need to drive.
This car i worth the price when you compared it to competition and this is not XSE model.

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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
You are making fun of plug in $100K RAV4 that will last 30 years and save countless money for owners when parked in safety of garage. People will have to make compromise for things that they actually needed.
some people do need to drive.
This car i worth the price when you compared it to competition and this is not XSE model.
Yes i am making fun of people who would spend DOUBLE of WHAT THE MANUF. is asking.

And WTF does "Save Countless money" mean? I dont care if it last 30 years.. life is too short to only drive 2 cars in your life time.. Fuck that... you can keep your RAV4 for 30 years.

Things they actually needed? NOBODY NEEDS a $100k RAV4 when you can get a $30k 4 banger RAV4. It will take you a lifetime to justify the additional $70k to spend on a RAV4 Prime.
Unlike other brands, you can't even brag about buying a $100k RAV4, because the reaction will be the same as here: "Are you that Stupid to buy a $100k RAV4?"

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Old 11-30-2021, 06:04 PM
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It is much more refined than other RAV4. so more usable to spend time in it.
The PHEV RAV4 you may not need to put fuel and oil change often. it has room mode incase you want to sleep /work/camping .
it still have incentive credit. so end price will be closer to $90K. The dealer is not stupid. he may have price slightly higher but what it brings to the table at this price. no other vehicles can do it. some people are time constrained. they cannot waste time in 200 mile range Model Y not mention no 18inch rim.

used 4runner for $69K.
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2021 4runner limited - $69,000


https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto...411809196.html

2021 TOYOTA 4RUNNER TRD PRO LUNAR ROCK - $67,900




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OMG this thread is so weird. Somehow SSFTSX always makes me smile.
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$100k for any Toyota except a Land Cruiser is insane.

If it's the only Prime they have, it's clearly to keep it on the lot & give a ridiculous starting point for negotiation.
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
The point is they have two German SUVs thats why they have 2 car garage in that area even with compromise on space at home.
for single garage family. they are not llkely buying two expensive SUVs. One will be beatup vehicles parked on the street and second one will be parked in single garage. but they will still try to save money on gas/maintaince/insurance.
Toyota Hybrids brakes last longer than non hybrid Toyotas not to mention hybrid advantage in traffic.
this has single garage. look around street view. there is no SUVs like the two car garage homes had.
https://www.redfin.com/CA/Oakland/95...08/home/528249
So you're saying that the German SUVs are better than the beat up Toyotas and Hondas on the road which is why they need to be garaged?

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if someone pays 100k for a Rav4, they deserve to get robbed... either at their home or at the dealership....
They already got robbed at the dealership lol.

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OMG this thread is so weird. Somehow SSFTSX always makes me smile.
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$100k for any Toyota except a Land Cruiser is insane.

If it's the only Prime they have, it's clearly to keep it on the lot & give a ridiculous starting point for negotiation.
Even the LC is too expensive for what it is. Should be way less money given how old everything in it is.
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For that $, most buyers will just make the jump to the Lexus LX, for their grocery store & soccer runs.
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So you're saying that the German SUVs are better than the beat up Toyotas and Hondas on the road which is why they need to be garaged?
It is not about better or worse. Two car garaged people in that area has certain level of income. They will not look at Toyota/Honda in majority of cases.
One Car garaged people can afford one new vehicle in majority of cases and they will likely want to save money on it and be more reliable. as there second car will be a deadbeat parked on street.
every city is different.






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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
It is not about better or worse. Two car garaged people in that area has certain level of income. They will not look at Toyota/Honda in majority of cases.
One Car garaged people can afford one new vehicle in majority of cases and they will likely want to save money on it and be more reliable. as there second car will be a deadbeat parked on street.
every city is different.
Ok got it. So only poor people buy Hondas and Toyotas because they cannot afford to garage a car as good as one of the German ones.
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I will not use the word poor for people who can park car in single garage home in SF bayarea.
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
I will not use the word poor for people who can park car in single garage home in SF bayarea.
You made the assertion, not me.
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TSS2.5 on RAV4 also includes Full-Speed Range Dynamic Radar Cruise Control (DRCC). Lane Departure Alert is designed to notify the driver via audible alert if it senses the vehicle is leaving the lane without engaging a turn signal. When DRCC is set and engaged, Lane Tracing Assist is designed to assist the driver by providing a slight steering force to help center the vehicle in its lane using visible lane markers or a preceding vehicle.

Automatic High Beams are designed to detect preceding or oncoming vehicles and automatically switch between high beam and low beam headlights. Road Sign Assist is designed to recognize certain road sign information using a forward-facing camera and display them on the multi-information display (MID).

In addition to the TSS 2.5 system, other standard safety features include Blind Spot Monitor, which is designed to help detect and warn you of vehicles approaching or positioned in the adjacent lanes. Rear Cross Traffic Alert can offer added peace of mind by helping to detect vehicles approaching from either side while backing out and alerting you with a visual and audible warning. Front and Rear Parking Assist with Automatic Braking is designed to provide warning and if needed, implement brake control when there's a possibility of a collision with a stationary object or an approaching vehicle while parking. In addition to TSS 2.5, the RAV4 Hybrid Woodland Edition is equipped with Toyota's Star Safety System, which includes Enhanced Vehicle Stability Control (VSC), Traction Control (TRAC), Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD), Brake Assist (BA), Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) and Smart Stop Technology (SST). Available safety technologies include Blind Spot Monitor (BSM) with Rear Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA), Bird's Eye View Camera, Intelligent Clearance Sonar (ICS) and Rear Cross Traffic Braking (RCTB) system.

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RAV4 also comes with ToyotaCare, a complimentary plan covering normal factory-scheduled maintenance, for two years or 25,000 miles, whichever comes first, and 2 years of Roadside Assistance, regardless of mileage.




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So just a cosmetic package? Nothing really added to make it “off road” capable?
more like unpaved roads?

color combo is like that 40th 4Runner minus the stripes.
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"TRD-tuned suspension & a different AWD pkg"
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Sounds like their existing RAV4 TRD Off-Road trim.

What I meant were things like on the 4Runner TRD Off-Road/Pro trim.
like a rear locking differential. CRAWL control. KDSS. Etc.

guess I was expecting something else based off the “off road” designation.
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I think the Sienna also got this 'Woodland' trim. Just a soft-roader trim for a FWD crossover.
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it doesnt matter how the spec is for the Rav4 Hybrid or Prime... wait time to get 1 is like a year

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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Sounds like their existing RAV4 TRD Off-Road trim.

What I meant were things like on the 4Runner TRD Off-Road/Pro trim.
like a rear locking differential. CRAWL control. KDSS. Etc.

guess I was expecting something else based off the “off road” designation.
roflwaffles, absolutely not. No one buying one of these is going to off road it at all beyond driving down a graded gravel road. My brother has a RAV4 Adventure and it's barely different from any other one, just has a different front bumper so you don't scrape on shit and a few other cosmetic things, that's about it.
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I misread what this package was.
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A programme of constant evolution and improvement has kept the segment-defining Toyota RAV4 at the top of its game for almost 30 years. True to its track record of regularly introducing fresh ideas to maintain customer appeal, Toyota has successfully applied its world-leading electrification know-how to deliver hybrid electric and plug-in hybrid electric powertrains, bringing new levels of efficiency while maintaining authentic SUV practicality and performance.

Now it is adding a new, sportier dimension to the RAV4 line-up with the addition of new GR SPORT versions.

Following the successful roll-out of the GR SPORT grades across other model ranges including the Yaris, Yaris Cross, Corolla, C-HR, and Hilux, the RAV4 gains a new styling package and handling tweaks that will resonate with customers who prefer a vehicle with sharper image.

The new grade is available for both the hybrid electric and plug-in hybrid electric versions with intelligent all-wheel drive (AWD-i) and takes its styling inspiration from the multiple world championship-winning success of TOYOTA GAZOO Racing.

Exterior

The GR SPORT treatment makes a bold style statement with the addition of piano black wheel arch trims, side mouldings and back door garnish. To the front there are more prominent fog light bezels with the same black G-mesh pattern as the grille and new front spoilers - finished in dark silver on the hybrid model and, with a different design appropriate to the powertrain, gunmetal grey on the plug-in hybrid. Discreet GR badging on the front grille and back door signify the sportier grade.

The new Toyota RAV4 GR SPORT is the first model to feature alloy wheels finished using a new, ultra-precise line-cutting technique. The 19-inch rims, fitted as standard, have a gloss black finish with fine bright machined pinstripe detailing that adds emphasis to their strong, five-double-spoke design.

Interior

The sporty yet sophisticated appearance carries through to the interior where the sports front seats are finished in a tactile, suede-effect upholstery with synthetic leather bolsters - materials that are free from animal products. The headrests are embossed black-on-black with the GR logo, while contrasts are struck with silver stitching on the seats, steering wheel, shift lever and gunmetal trim detailing on the doors and steering wheel. The GR logo is also featured on the floor mats and steering wheel.

The new models come as standard with the new multimedia system with 10.5-inch high-definition display and customisable 12.3-inch driver's digital combimeter that are key elements in the RAV4 upgrade for the 2023 model year. Similarly, the Toyota T-Mate safety and driver assistance features include the additional functionality of the latest generation Toyota Safety Sense. The package includes the new Emergency Steering Assist system and enhanced Pre-Collision System.

In addition, all GR SPORT models come with power adjustment for the front seats, together with memory settings for the driver's seat, as well as panoramic view monitor as standard.

Performance

The sportier looks are complemented by further improvements to the suspension for the GR SPORT model. The new stiffer springs and shock absorber settings are expected to give the Toyota RAV4 GR SPORT a handling boost and offer a more engaging driving experience.

Toyota RAV4

The Toyota RAV4 has the distinction of being the world's original recreational SUV. Its launch in 1994 created what is today one of the most popular and highly competitive market segments. The RAV4's lasting success is reflected in cumulative global sales that passed the 10 million mark in 2020, while the RAV4 continues to reign as the world's best-selling SUV.

In its latest, fifth generation, it continues to define its segment, giving customers a breadth of choice of efficient and electrified powertrains, together with the option of Toyota's electric intelligent all-wheel drive (AWD-i). As the first model to use Toyota's GA-K global architecture platform, its low centre of gravity and high body rigidity deliver significantly improved handling, comfort and generous interior space for both passengers and cargo.

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So...another minor cosmetic package with a worse ride?
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