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Old 11-15-2005, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gilboman
how does a CVT have 7spd manual shift?
They artificially put in some gear ratios that make it seem like a 7sp AT.

That tranny will probably not make it to the US.
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Don't know how familycar.com managed to snap some pics, but here are some interior shots. No 3rd row? I think the dual center stack looks hideous. Rest of the interior design is nice, though.

http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/T...Photos2006.htm

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The interior's horrible. The dash,stack, door panels, everything. The only part that looks good is the steering wheel design.
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BTW, the taillights look like they're LEDs.
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No 3rd row?
Its optional isn't it?
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Its optional isn't it?
It looks like there's definitely space for it.
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The interior's horrible. The dash,stack, door panels, everything. The only part that looks good is the steering wheel design.
Oh, but Toyota interiors are sooooo much better than GM interiors.
Everyone knows that. You know it, I know it, Consumer Scamports knowz it.
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Oh, but Toyota interiors are sooooo much better than GM interiors.
Everyone knows that. You know it, I know it, Consumer Scamports knowz it.
LOL, I wasn't comparing it to GM's, per se. And to clarify,I wasn't commenting on the quality of the materials or anything. I was just saying the design of it completely turns me off. If I had to pick which design I liked better between that and GM (say, the Equinox), I'd pick the GM. I'm sure it's a well made interior; I just think it's ugly.
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Edmunds.com Full Test: 2006 Toyota RAV4

Vehicle Tested: 2006 Toyota RAV4 4dr SUV

What Works:
Strong performance and brakes, great ride and handling balance, spacious cabin, easy folding second-row seat, standard stability control.

What Needs Work:
Blind spot due to rear-mounted spare tire, side-impact and side curtain airbags cost extra, tough fit for very tall folks.

Bottom Line:
Bigger, stronger, faster. The millions that Toyota has invested in the newest RAV4 were well spent.

* Available 269-hp V6
* 0-60 in 7.1 seconds
* 60-0 in 120 feet
* 25 more cubic feet than before
* Available third-row seat




Full Test: 2006 Toyota RAV4
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(Photo by Scott Jacobs)


Chrome grille inserts and six-spoke alloy wheels identify this RAV4 as a Limited. (Photo by Scott Jacobs)


A dual-tier dash and faux metallic accents spice up the cabin. (Photo by Scott Jacobs)


Rear-mounted, full-size spare optimizes cargo space, but impedes rearward sight lines. (Photo by Scott Jacobs)


Standard on the Limited are 17-inch wheels, Sport models come with 18s while base versions are fitted with 16s. (Photo by Scott Jacobs)


Inspired by cousin Scion, or maybe BMW, the headlights have stylized eyebrows. (Photo by Scott Jacobs)


More aggressive dynamically, both in terms of style and performance, the 2006 RAV4 should expand its fan base. (Photo by Scott Jacobs)

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By John DiPietro
Date posted: 11-28-2005

Ten years ago, before the flood of current compact SUVs washed over the market, Toyota's RAV4 offered the Gen X and Gen Y folks an SUV that suited their supposedly active lifestyles.

Something that could handle foul-weather driving as well as a trip to the slopes or mountain bike trailhead. Something that had relatively small dimensions for an SUV, making it easy to park in the city. Something that had a frugal four-cylinder engine that promised 20-somethings 20-something miles to the gallon. Something journalists dubbed the "cute ute."

Well, this is America, the Land of Supersizing, so it was inevitable that the RAV4 would get bigger. And that's exactly what happened with the 2006 Toyota RAV4. Although this new RAV also debuts in Europe this year, they'll be getting the shorter-wheelbase version shown at the 2005 Frankfurt International Motor Show. The difference in length is most noticeable by looking at the rearmost side windows. North America gets a third-seat option, Europe does not.

Would this upsizing kill the lovable, agile demeanor of the RAV4? Or would it take Toyota's entry-level SUV to new heights? We couldn't wait to find out so we got hold of a preproduction unit, a V6 Limited that was loaded to the roof rack with options.

Grow up already
At 181.1 inches in length, the 2006 RAV4 is over a foot longer (14.5 inches) than the outgoing model. It is also arguably more handsome than its forebear. The grille sports Toyota's signature trapezoidal shape, the oversized rub strip on the side is gone, and the greenhouse has a more elegant appearance with its reverse-canted D-pillar. Width is up 3.2 inches, adding to the more aggressive stance.

Compared to its chief competitors, the new RAV4 is about the same length as a Honda CR-V (181.3 inches), about 11 inches longer than the Hyundai Tucson and about 8 inches shorter than the midsize Chevrolet Equinox. A lower coefficient of drag (0.33 versus 0.35 previously) promises a quieter ride and better fuel-efficiency at higher cruising speeds.

Three trim levels will be available: base, Sport and Limited. Base versions are anything but strippers as the following features are all standard: air conditioning, cruise control, tire-pressure monitor, power windows, power locks, tilt/telescopic steering wheel, keyless entry, an AM/FM/CD system with auxiliary input jack, 215/70/16 tires (V6 versions get 225/65/17s), a six-way (manual) driver seat and a split/reclining/sliding second-row seat.

Step up to the Sport and added to the mix are a sport-tuned suspension, alloy wheels wearing 235/55/18 performance tires, foglights, rear privacy glass, spare-tire cover, and color-keyed mirrors, door handles and fender flairs.

Limited models feature dual-zone climate controls, heated/power mirrors, a six-disc CD changer and steering wheel controls for the audio system, anti-theft system, chrome grille, color-keyed bumpers, door handles and rear spoiler, power driver seat, alloy wheels with 225/65/17 tires, rear cargo net and leather wrapping for the steering wheel and shift knob.

The Safety dance
A comprehensive active safety package is standard on all RAV4s and as such, all the high-tech acronyms apply here. Antilock brakes, BrakeAssist, Electronic Brakeforce Distribution, traction control and Vehicle Stability Control provide peace of mind as well as the ability to save your butt while dealing with the daily risks of urban and suburban driving. Side-impact and side curtain airbags are optional.

Come on in and get comfortable
Compared to the '05 RAV4, the '06's difference in interior space is immediately noticeable. Toyota claims a 21-percent roomier cabin, and that seems no exaggeration. With the wheelbase stretched 6.7 inches, space for second-row passengers is plentiful — at 38.3 inches, rear legroom is 2 inches greater than a Ford Escape's and an inch less than the Honda CR-V's. And that second-row seat slides fore and aft to cater to passenger and cargo needs — it's not an original idea (Chevy has it in the Malibu Maxx and Equinox) — but a great one nonetheless.

Along with the upsizing came the availability of upscale features. Our Limited even had a DVD entertainment system in addition to the leather seating and moonroof. A third seat is optional, and though our test RAV4 didn't have it, we tried it out while at a press event. It should be fine for the kiddies, but adults bigger than 5 feet tall are going to feel cramped back there.

Simulated brushed-metallic trim adorns the dash, console and door panels, furthering the uptown image, as do the Optitron gauges and illuminated cupholders up front.

Most staffers found the seats supportive and comfortable over long drives, although our tallest staffer (at 6-foot-4), Richard Homan, just didn't fit no matter how much he fiddled with the eight-way power seat. The telescopic feature on the steering wheel was appreciated and rare in this class. The quietude of the cabin impressed everyone, as did the ease with which the second row folded (just flip a lever on the seat side and the seatback flops down, without requiring removal of the headrest in most cases).

Not just bigger, but faster, too
For the first time, a V6 engine is available in the RAV4. And this ain't no puny 2.5- to 3.0-liter V6. Borrowing a page from the Saturn Vue playbook, Toyota stuffed a burly 3.5-liter V6 (shared with the company's flagship sedan, the Avalon) into the RAV's engine bay.

With a forceful 269 horsepower (at 6,200 rpm) and 246 pound-feet of torque (at 4,700 rpm) on tap, this engine gives the RAV4 a decidedly aggressive personality. Coupled to a five-speed automatic and running through an electronic, "on-demand" four-wheel-drive system, our RAV4 scurried to 60 in just 7.1 seconds and was still going strong as it flashed through the quarter-mile in 15.2 seconds at 91.2 mph. This means it will lay waste to your snobbish friend's X3 3.0 by about a second in each category.

On the street, the RAV4 just moves out quickly whenever you toe into the throttle. The automatic tranny is never caught sleeping — no need to slam your foot to the carpet to coax a downshift. Gear changes are swift and smooth and our average gas mileage, at 19.3 mpg, is commendable given our leadfoot tendencies. Those with more self control should get closer to Toyota's estimates of 20 city and 27 highway. Two-wheel-drive V6 RAVs are rated 1 mpg higher on the highway.

The base RAV4 powertrain consists of a 2.4-liter four-cylinder with 166 hp (up 5 over last year) and 165 lb-ft of torque running through a four-speed automatic gearbox. As with the V6, no manual transmission is available. Mileage estimates are 24/31 (2WD) and 23/29 (4WD).

Disc brakes are standard all around, and aided by the best technology available to provide swift and short stopping distances. We scored a best of 120 feet from 60 mph, a performance just 2 feet shy of the highly regarded BMW X3's. Solid and progressive, the pedal feel provided confidence in all driving scenarios.

The available four-wheel-drive system operates in front-drive mode for optimum fuel-efficiency until a situation (such as quick acceleration from a stop or while driving on slippery roads) demands four-wheel drive, at which point up to 45 percent of the torque is transferred to the rear wheels. A "4WD Lock" switch allows one to manually select that maximum torque output to the rear wheels.

The V6 models come standard with Hill-start Assist Control (which prevents rolling back when on a hill) and Downhill Assist Control (which automatically keeps speed down without the driver having to brake while moving down a steep hill).

For those who tow and want to know, the four-banger can pull up to 1,500 pounds while a V6 model can tow up to 3,500 pounds.

No longer tiny, but still a dancer
With independent suspension at all four corners, the RAV4 incorporates McPherson struts up front along with a double-wishbone setup out back. With tuning set nicely between plush and firm, our Limited delivered a comfy ride over broken-up pavement while remaining responsive and secure on winding two-lanes. Surprisingly, the electric power steering feels well weighted and natural (take note, GM) with no slack at all on-center.

With a performance of 61.3 mph through our slalom course, the RAV4 felt confident and well planted. Toyota's overenthusiastic Vehicle Stability Control slapped our wrists and intervened while we were still playing with the RAV's good clean handling fun — we have a recent history of taking issue with Toyota/Lexus traction and stability systems. Overall, we're happy to say that the RAV4 retains its sporty dynamic even though it's grown considerably larger this year, a helluva feat for the chassis engineers.

This is how we do it
Not only has the 2006 RAV4 moved up in terms of size, it's also managed to broaden its appeal without losing any of its previous spunky and affable personality. Once again, Toyota has shown the automotive world how to build on a model's strengths while still making improvements where needed.

Stereo Evaluation


The optional system's logical ergonomics are unfortunately more impressive than its performance when cranked up. (Photo by Scott Jacobs)


System Score: 7.0

Components: Our RAV 4 came equipped with an optional stereo. The upgraded system is a JBL premium sound system with a total of eight speakers plus a subwoofer. Our test car was a Limited and with or without the JBL stereo it includes an in-dash six-disc CD changer, MP3 and WMA capability, mini-jack input for portable music players like an iPod and steering wheel-mounted audio controls.

Performance: It's hard to tell the standard Toyota stereo from the upgraded version just by looking at the head unit. The only visual cue your passengers will get that you opted for a nice sound system is the JBL logo on the speakers.

The display and controls are all Toyota, which is to say they are practical and functional. The head unit is mounted high and the buttons are large and easy to use with just a glance. Even so, the steering wheel-mounted controls are the likely route for most drivers. Those buttons are simple and straightforward and clustered together on the left side of the wheel. Like the rest of the car's controls, the audio controls are very intuitive to use.

The sound quality of this optional system is clearly better than the stock system but overall it is only a little above average. Even with the optional system's subwoofer, the bass is just OK. It's prominent enough but lacks true kick and can tend to be muddy when the volume is turned up. We found the best sounding profile was to have the bass and treble boosted almost all the way up with the mids at about +1. But hey, that means this stereo has a midrange adjustment and we like that.

The highs are never overwhelming but even with the treble bumped up to +3 or so, much of what we listened to lacked detail. The system overall sounds very good but there is a softness to the sound that can take away from some harder-edged music. Stereos like Pioneer from the Scion line and Nissan's newest Rockford Fosgate offer a more aggressive sound when you want it.

Best Feature: Intuitive head unit and controls.

Worst Feature: Lack of bass punch.

Conclusion: Like the RAV4 itself, the optional JBL stereo is a step up but ultimately lacks a "wow" factor. While the sound quality lacks edge, the system overall is easy to use and seamlessly blends itself into the driving experience. — Brian Moody

Second Opinions

Editor in Chief Karl Brauer says:
I was never a fan of the previous RAV4s. Between their bizarre styling and too-small-to-be-truly-utilitarian dimensions they always struck me as "cute utes" that were neither cute nor utilitarian. The last generation did handle quite well, and it possessed typical Toyota quality in design and execution, so for someone who needed an economy sedan — but wanted to be seen driving a "lifestyle" vehicle — I guess it worked.

The new model has addressed both of my previous issues. It looks cool, both inside and out (think BMW X3), and its larger size means it has real utility potential (though the third-row option is more symbolic than authentic...). But where this car really shines is under the hood. Toyota's new 3.5-liter V6 is a sweetheart of an engine, with exceptional horsepower and torque. The first time I punched the throttle I found myself shouting expletives — in a good way. Is there such a thing as too much horsepower? Of course not! But the fact that question crossed my mind while driving the RAV4 is a good indication that Toyota has transformed its smallest SUV into a serious player.

Executive Editor Richard Homan says:
Toyota has come a long, long way with the RAV4 since its original iteration two generations and 10 years ago. The original version was gag-a-maggot ugly to my Gen-XY (male) eyes, especially in its two-door form. It drove OK, but no better. Toyota found its footing with the second-generation RAV4, giving it almost mini-BMW X5 lines and respectable road manners.

Now the 2006 RAV4 comes along and the news is almost all good. The shape has a legitimate cool-factor to it, especially in the Metallic Red that our test RAV wore — Frank Lloyd Wright would have been proud. And the 269-hp V6 deserves a standing ovation all its own. That much horsepower in this class of ute is a godsend for righteous passing maneuvers.

Did that man say "almost" all good news? Yeah, he did. At 6-foot-4, this editor doesn't fit in the RAV4 so good. The torso is no problem — headroom abounds — it's the legs that have no place to go. If you're not a genetic freak (or "normal" as I like to think of myself), you may still feel like you're propped-up on, rather than sitting in, the driver seat, and you may get that low-steering-wheel bus-driver feeling. But at least you'll fit. Also, the spare-tire carrier blocks the view out the rear window pretty effectively.

But if you fit the new RAV4 and the price fits you, it's an easy decision to make.

Specs & Performance

Vehicle
Model Year: 2006
Make: Toyota
Model: RAV4
Style: Limited
Base Price: $26,475
Price as Tested: $32,708
Drive Type: All-wheel drive
Transmission Type: 5-speed automatic
Displacement (liters): 3.5
Engine Type: V6
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): [email protected]
Torque (ft-lbs @ rpm): [email protected]
Braking System: 4-wheel disc w/ABS
Steering System: Power rack and pinion
Suspension Type (front): MacPherson strut w/stabilizer bar
Suspension Type (rear): Double wishbone coil spring w/stabilizer bar
Tire Size (front): P225/65R17
Tire Size (rear): P225/65R17
Tire Brand: Bridgestone
Tire Model: Dueler H/T
Curb Weight (lbs): 3675
Recommended Fuel: Regular
Fuel Tank Capacity (gal): 15.9
EPA Fuel Economy (mpg): 21 City 28 Highway
Edmunds Observed (mpg): 19

Conditions for Testing
Temperature (Fahrenheit): 77
Humidity: 30%
Elevation (ft): 1100
Wind: 0

Performance
0 - 30 (sec): 2.8
0 - 45 (sec): 4.7
0 - 60 (sec): 7.1
0 - 75 (sec): 10.5
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): [email protected]
30 - 0 (ft): 29.8
60 - 0 (ft): 120.0
Braking Rating (Excellent, Good, Average, Poor or Very Poor): Excellent
Slalom (mph): 61.3
Turning Circle (ft), curb-to-curb: 34.8
Handling Rating (Excellent, Good, Average, Poor or Very Poor): Excellent
Db @ Idle: 42
Db @ Full Throttle: 76
Db @ 70 mph Cruise: 70

Acceleration: All acceleration test performed in drive with no manual shifting.

Braking: Uneventful ABS actuation. Little noise.

Handling: Stability control is heavily intrusive and there's no way to deactivate the system.

Specifications
Length: 181.1 in.
Width: 73.0 in.
Height: 66.3 in.
Wheelbase: 104.7 in.
Legroom (front): 41.6 in.
Legroom (rear): 38.3 in.
Headroom (front): 39.5 in.
Headroom (rear): 39.7 in.
Maximum Seating Capacity: 5
Cargo Volume: 36.4 cubic feet
Maximum Cargo Volume (rear seats down): 73.0 cubic feet

Warranty Information
Bumper-to-Bumper: Three-year/36,000 mile
Power Train: Five-year/60,000 mile
Corrosion: N/A
Roadside Assistance: None
Scheduled Maintenance: None

Safety Information
Front Airbags: Standard
Side Airbags: Optional
Head Airbags: Optional
Antilock Brakes: Standard
Electronic Brake Enhancements: None
Traction Control: Standard
Stability Control: Standard
Rollover Protection: None
Emergency Assistance System: None
NHTSA Crash Test Driver: Not Tested
NHTSA Crash Test Passenger: Not Tested
NHTSA Crash Test Side Front: Not Tested
NHTSA Crash Test Side Rear: Not Tested
NHTSA Rollover: Not Tested
IIHS Offset: Not Tested
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^ Yeah, that's a lot of power... very nice. Still, I'm more interested in the next Vue (Opel Frontera) coming out in a year or so.
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I thought it was suposed to be the size of a Highlander? So it's just as big as the CR-V now, with an available 3rd row it appears.
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Originally Posted by phile
I thought it was suposed to be the size of a Highlander? So it's just as big as the CR-V now, with an available 3rd row it appears.
Wouldn't the Highlander and Rav-4 being the same size be redundant? I think it's practically the same size but with the third seat now.
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I was a little thrown off by the size numbers, for some reason I thought it was going to be a pretty big suv but being the ~same size of the crv is good. The highlander is only 3.5" longer than the crv which also surprised me, but i don't know if they are measuring to the back of the spare tire attached to the rear door of the crv.
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Originally Posted by titan
Wouldn't the Highlander and Rav-4 being the same size be redundant? I think it's practically the same size but with the third seat now.
For now yes, but you'd expect the next Highlander to grow in size. But I was referring back to previous comments about it being the size of a Hhighlander. I didn't think the CR-V was as big as a Highlander.
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^ I gotcha. Yeah, I'd expect the Highlander to grow, if even just a bit.
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I don't see if Navi is offered, maybe I missed it. If no Navi, then I'm less inclined to get the new RAV. Navi-once you had it, you never go back.
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Seems like Toyota came out with a direct CR-V competitor that in the short term might diminish its own Highlander sales. Of course Toyota only aimed at the current CR-V which of course will get a total make over next year.

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for a Rav 4?!?!?!?

Toyota can keep it.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Price as Tested: $32,708
for a Rav 4?!?!?!?

Toyota can keep it.
Actually compared to a fully loaded '05 Rav4, which comes out close to $30K (MSRP from Carsdirect.com) and comes with only a 4 banger. This new one seems like a better value for what you get compared to the current Rav4. But it's still no bargain though hell for that much you can get a TL.
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The rumors are that the Highlander is going to be killed off except for the Hybrid model. Our company also owns a Toyota dealership. Secon You can get a Pilot EX-L for a few Hundred more. And if the redesigned Cr-v comes in at 28k with a V-6 this car is dead plus 32k and you don't get a leather seat option????

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Originally Posted by DownUnder
Actually compared to a fully loaded '05 Rav4, which comes out close to $30K (MSRP from Carsdirect.com) and comes with only a 4 banger. This new one seems like a better value for what you get compared to the current Rav4. But it's still no bargain though hell for that much you can get a TL.
Compared to existing Rav4's....ok.
...but compared to other cars and SUV's it's not worth the $$ IMHO.
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damnit, id rather have this x 10 over my parent's current Highlander LTD.
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..although i dont believe leather seats are an option. hey though, this is a very good looking product; a lot of nice features for its segment, but a big price for it as well.
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Originally Posted by Stevens24
The rumors are that the Highlander is going to be killed off except for the Hybrid model. Our company also owns a Toyota dealership. Secon You can get a Pilot EX-L for a few Hundred more. And if the redesigned Cr-v comes in at 28k with a V-6 this car is dead plus 32k and you don't get a leather seat option????
The Rav4 they tested did come with leather seats. Even the current Rav4 has leather as an option.
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I can't see the next CRV having an engine to go against 270hp.
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
I can't see the next CRV having an engine to go against 270hp.
Probably not but that's good cause the price will likely stay in the low $20K range.
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Compared to existing Rav4's....ok.
...but compared to other cars and SUV's it's not worth the $$ IMHO.

I dunno. I think one thing to consider is how long you own it. The gas milage is outstanding (2wd V6 28mph Hwy) compared to others in the compact and mid-compact section it will save lots of money over 200K miles. Being a Toyota maintaining it and low need for repair will help it there also, I would (almost) bet that it would be the lowest cost to own per cubic foot (or people carried, if you consider 7) of carrying capacity out of just about any car or truck. The other thing to consider is once it has been out for a few months you will be able to buy it at invoice.

It isn't a sexy vehicle by any stretch but with the 4 it will not be much more expensive than the current Rav4 and 10X as useful, with the Limited 6 it will still have a transaction cost lower than the average car sold and kick sand in the face of everything else in the segment. I personally see it as a value, and have to admit it is on my radar to replace my travel car, lack of sexiness and all!
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Originally Posted by ilitig8
I dunno. I think one thing to consider is how long you own it. The gas milage is outstanding (2wd V6 28mph Hwy) compared to others in the compact and mid-compact section it will save lots of money over 200K miles. Being a Toyota maintaining it and low need for repair will help it there also, I would (almost) bet that it would be the lowest cost to own per cubic foot (or people carried, if you consider 7) of carrying capacity out of just about any car or truck. The other thing to consider is once it has been out for a few months you will be able to buy it at invoice.

It isn't a sexy vehicle by any stretch but with the 4 it will not be much more expensive than the current Rav4 and 10X as useful, with the Limited 6 it will still have a transaction cost lower than the average car sold and kick sand in the face of everything else in the segment. I personally see it as a value, and have to admit it is on my radar to replace my travel car, lack of sexiness and all!
I don't believe you even get navigation for that 32k price!!!!
Not worth the $$
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I agree that the top model doesn't seem very competitively priced, but I guess its most likely in place for those that have to have a Rav4 with xy features, others will just be pushed to the 4runner or whatever else at 30k.

The other models though seem like they should be a decent buy. I'd like to see what the sport model looks like with the 18" standard wheels.

Should be interesting to see what Honda comes up with, but then again it seems like Toyota is more willing to deal with their prices than say Honda, we shall see.
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I think this new Rav4 is a homerun in the looks, powertrain, and feature department. For 32k though, I'd be more inclined to get an optioned out Volvo V70 2.5T. You can get some crazy deals on the V70. At first glance I know it looks like these cars are in different segements but i've driven thousands of highway miles in both the V70 and the current gen Rav4 and they basically serve the same purpose for me; comfortable for long distance drives with plenty of room for friends and gear. Although the backseat of the current Rav4 is pretty tight- way more so than my TSX.
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Originally Posted by phirenze
I think this new Rav4 is a homerun in the looks, powertrain, and feature department. For 32k though, I'd be more inclined to get an optioned out Volvo V70 2.5T. You can get some crazy deals on the V70. At first glance I know it looks like these cars are in different segements but i've driven thousands of highway miles in both the V70 and the current gen Rav4 and they basically serve the same purpose for me; comfortable for long distance drives with plenty of room for friends and gear. Although the backseat of the current Rav4 is pretty tight- way more so than my TSX.
The new Rav4 is a great design inside & out....the price however is it's downfall.
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^ Price has always been its downfall. We have a current gen RAV4, paid ~23K for it new. No moonroof, just AWD and the few "options" that really shouldn't be optional in this day and age. By comparison, you could get a CR-V EX for a little more with moonroof. But it was the Toyota finance rate that wooed us, something that Honda couldn't offer.
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^ Price has always been its downfall. We have a current gen RAV4, paid ~23K for it new. .........But it was the Toyota finance rate that wooed us, something that Honda couldn't offer.
Same here.
Our 2003 RAV4 had an MSRP of nearly 24K and we got it for just over 20K when I was done negotiating.
It’s pretty optioned up with nearly everything including 4WD, “L” and wheel package.
We were cross shopping the CRV.
Both the wife and I didn’t like it because it was much longer and has a smaller back window.
Both combined for reduced visibility out the back.

Honda had ONE demo to test drive and you basically picked your color/options and they told you when it came in.
Price was MSRP and they offered me 1,000 off because I had purchased three Acura’s at the sister dealership.
Toyota had 20-30 on the lot to choose from in various colors/option levels and special financing.
So we went with the Toyota.

I don’t see myself replacing it with this new one anytime soon.
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http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...tric-rav4.html

July 16 (Bloomberg) -- Tesla Motors Inc., the electric-car maker, and Toyota Motor Corp. said they have signed an agreement to start developing an electric version of the RAV4 compact sport-utility vehicle to go on sale in 2012.

Tesla has produced a prototype that is undergoing testing and plans to deliver more this year, the companies said in a statement. Chief Executive Officers Akio Toyoda of Toyota and Elon Musk of Tesla had announced in May the partnership that includes Toyota buying a $50 million stake in the electric-car company and selling it an assembly plant in Fremont, California.

Tesla said July 10 that it will deliver two prototype vehicles to Toyota, the world’s largest automaker, without identifying the models. While Toyota also aims to test an electric Corolla compact sedan, the RAV4 is better suited to the weight of Tesla’s battery pack, a person familiar with the matter said last week.

The companies may also develop an electric Lexus RX luxury SUV, said the person, who asked not to be identified because the vehicles hadn’t been announced yet.
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^ Looks like Tesla may have plenty of work for the NUMI plant.
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Toyota and Tesla said today the coming Tesla-powered Rav4 electric SUV will be built at the Woodstock, Ontario, Canada plant where Toyota builds the current gasoline Rav4 -- and not at the Fremont, Calif., plant Tesla bought from Toyota.

The Rav4 EV, due on sale next year, will have a drivetrain and battery system bought by Toyota from Tesla. Toyota has not said how many it will make, though recently responded to rumors that it would be a fleet-only model by saying it will be sold at retail to individuals in some markets. It has yet to price the EV or announce in what regions it will be sold.

The planned Tesla Model S sedan that Tesla says is on track to roll out next year,
is preparing the Fremont plant to make its coming Model S sedan. A former General Motors assembly plant, Fremont later was operated by Toyota under its NUMMI joint venture with GM. At that time, it made Corollas, Matrix and Chevrolet and Pontiac models based on those cars. The venture was a casualty of GM's bankruptcy.

Tesla, with the help of federal Energy Department loans, is refitting the plant and said, as part of its recent earnings release, that the Model S is on schedule to begin sales next year.

Tesla will produce the electric powertrains at its Palo Alto, Calif., plant and ship them to the Canadian plant, the companies said. That system that will "streamline and simplify the production process and guarantee the highest level of quality control," said a statement from Ray Tanguay, chairman of Toyota Motor Manufacturing Canada, who hosted Canadian officials at the plant today.
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LOS ANGELES -- Toyota Motor Corp. today unveiled the production version of its RAV4 electric vehicle, which carries a battery pack and electric motor system developed in collaboration with Tesla Motors.

The crossover will carry a sticker price of $50,610 including an $810 destination charge but before available tax incentives of $2,500 in California and $7,500 at the federal level.

The RAV4 EV will go on sale this summer in Sacramento, the San Francisco Bay area, Los Angeles/Orange County and San Diego. Sales volume is targeted at about 2,600 units over the next three years.

The driving range rating of 100 miles is a real-world range, not a best-case scenario achieved by being delicate with the accelerator pedal, said George Blankenship, Tesla vice president of sales.

The crossover has a charging time of about six hours on a 240-volt charger. Toyota has selected Leviton Manufacturing Co. to supply charging equipment. The lithium ion battery warranty is eight years or 100,000 miles.

The front-wheel-drive RAV4 EV has two driving modes. In Sport mode, the vehicle travels from 0 to 60 mph in 7 seconds and has a maximum speed of 100 mph. In Normal mode, the vehicle goes from 0 to 60 mph in 8.6 seconds with a maximum speed of 85 mph.

Maximum output from the electric powertrain is 154 hp at 2,800 rpm.

Compared with the gasoline-powered RAV4, Toyota restyled the front bumper, upper and lower grille, side mirrors, rear spoiler and underbody design to maximize airflow around the vehicle.

The RAV4 EV weighs 470 pounds more than a RAV4 V-6, but the weight is mostly from the battery pack. That means it has a lower center of gravity, and thus handles better than the gas-powered version, said Bob Carter, Toyota Division general manager.

The joint-venture product comes two years after an equity partnership was unveiled between Toyota and Tesla, and just 22 months after the companies said they would develop the vehicle.

The RAV4 EV will be assembled at Toyota's factory in Woodstock, Ontario.

It will run on the current RAV4 platform, which is scheduled to be redesigned this fall, said chief engineer Greg Bernas.

"We may have to use the (plant's) service area to generate sheet metal. If we could have timed it to go with the new model, it would have been more convenient," Bernas said.

J.B. Straubel, chief technology officer for Tesla, said Toyota and Tesla engineers split time between the 2 automakers' R&D facilities.

“They didn’t just specify a component and then we threw it over the wall,” Straubel said. “There were so many interfaces, with structural, electrical and functionality. We were very much integrated.”

The RAV4 EV’s 41.8 kilowatt-hour battery pack is smaller than even the smallest pack going into Tesla’s upcoming Model S sedan. The largest Model S pack is 85 kilowatt-hours.

“We’re not just licensing the technology to Toyota. We are adapting our intellectual property, then developing it and manufacturing it,” Straubel said.

The Tesla battery pack and motors are manufactured in California, then shipped to Toyota’s Canadian plant for installation in the vehicle.
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So the current RAV4 look will soldier on for another 3 years - don't know why they couldn't put this on the new platform which is just a few months away.
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New RAV4 leaked. Don't know about that front and and dash layout.... dash looks cheap.









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