Speed-limiting technology for passenger vehicles is being investigated in Australia
01-08-2008, 10:48 AM
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Speed-limiting technology for passenger vehicles is being investigated in Australia
Coles notes- Australia testing GPS based speed control
Big brother is coming to Australia- and I don't think it would be too hard to adopt for N.A.
BID TO SLOW FAST CARS - Secret speed-limiter trials may curb leadfoot drivers
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SPEED-limiting technology for passenger vehicles is being investigated by state governments in a desperate bid to reduce the national road toll.
Devices which can cut power to a car's engine if an onboard computer detects speeding are being trialled by the Australasian Intelligent Speed Adaptation Initiative.
The technology works off a GPS and a road speed database that identifies speed limits.
All states and territories plus New Zealand are involved in the initiative.
The speed-limiting technology is being trialled in Victoria and could be used to permanently slow down reckless speedsters.
State Transport Minister John Mickel said while Queensland was in a national ISA working group, no state trials of the technology were planned.
"Technology is evolving all the time with these things and my view with road safety is to see what the latest technology is and see if it can improve safety,'' Mr Mickel said.
In Victoria, three Government ministers, the Chief Commissioner of Police, a former state coroner and 45 other participants will drive cars fitted with devices as part of a trial that started in December.
Western Australia and NSW are planning to start trials this year.
Mr Mickel said that, if the technology was introduced, it would have to fit in with a ``national'' approach.
Michael Paine -- a vehicle safety consultant for Queensland Transport and other state governments -- said ISA could reduce serious accidents by up to 20 per cent.
The technology can be fitted in three levels. The first is a beeping noise warning the driver to slow down if they are speeding.
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Device may help curb road toll
Level 2 prevents the driver from speeding by cutting power to the engine but the system can be turned off or adjusted.
The most extreme level -- and one that could be fitted to the cars of serial speedsters -- stops all speeding and cannot be switched off or adjusted.
Mr Paine said the technology was available in Australia, however its biggest hurdle was mapping every street with speed limits. It's believed Brisbane is being mapped for the technology with future plans to cover the entire state.
The systems cost between $700 and $2000 and their most likely use would be in fleet cars.
An earlier trial in Victoria found the technology reduced peak and average speeds as well as reducing fuel consumption and emissions.
RACQ spokesman Gary Fites said ISA introduction would open up a "Pandora's box'' of intelligent technologies for cars.
However, Mr Fites said, fitting cars with safety devices such as a "full suite of airbags'' would be more effective in reducing the road toll.
Big brother is coming to Australia- and I don't think it would be too hard to adopt for N.A.
BID TO SLOW FAST CARS - Secret speed-limiter trials may curb leadfoot drivers
Michael Wray
461 words
9 January 2008
The Courier-Mail
1 - First with the news
1
English
Copyright 2008 News Ltd. All Rights Reserved
SPEED-limiting technology for passenger vehicles is being investigated by state governments in a desperate bid to reduce the national road toll.
Devices which can cut power to a car's engine if an onboard computer detects speeding are being trialled by the Australasian Intelligent Speed Adaptation Initiative.
The technology works off a GPS and a road speed database that identifies speed limits.
All states and territories plus New Zealand are involved in the initiative.
The speed-limiting technology is being trialled in Victoria and could be used to permanently slow down reckless speedsters.
State Transport Minister John Mickel said while Queensland was in a national ISA working group, no state trials of the technology were planned.
"Technology is evolving all the time with these things and my view with road safety is to see what the latest technology is and see if it can improve safety,'' Mr Mickel said.
In Victoria, three Government ministers, the Chief Commissioner of Police, a former state coroner and 45 other participants will drive cars fitted with devices as part of a trial that started in December.
Western Australia and NSW are planning to start trials this year.
Mr Mickel said that, if the technology was introduced, it would have to fit in with a ``national'' approach.
Michael Paine -- a vehicle safety consultant for Queensland Transport and other state governments -- said ISA could reduce serious accidents by up to 20 per cent.
The technology can be fitted in three levels. The first is a beeping noise warning the driver to slow down if they are speeding.
Continued P2
From P1
Device may help curb road toll
Level 2 prevents the driver from speeding by cutting power to the engine but the system can be turned off or adjusted.
The most extreme level -- and one that could be fitted to the cars of serial speedsters -- stops all speeding and cannot be switched off or adjusted.
Mr Paine said the technology was available in Australia, however its biggest hurdle was mapping every street with speed limits. It's believed Brisbane is being mapped for the technology with future plans to cover the entire state.
The systems cost between $700 and $2000 and their most likely use would be in fleet cars.
An earlier trial in Victoria found the technology reduced peak and average speeds as well as reducing fuel consumption and emissions.
RACQ spokesman Gary Fites said ISA introduction would open up a "Pandora's box'' of intelligent technologies for cars.
However, Mr Fites said, fitting cars with safety devices such as a "full suite of airbags'' would be more effective in reducing the road toll.
01-08-2008, 02:18 PM
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This technology would likely not be employed here in the states as it would virtually eliminate municipal revenues originating from speeding infractions (a fiscal boon to most municipalities).
01-08-2008, 02:28 PM
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This technology would likely not be employed here in the states as it would virtually eliminate municipal revenues originating from speeding infractions (a fiscal boon to most municipalities).
Laymens terms: he means is that the speed limiter would prevent cops from getting money by issuing tickets, which would cut down on their budget.
I would be more worried about throttle-control.... you can do a lot more stupid things at 35 mph with the gas pedal floored than with only part throttle at 60.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
This technology would likely not be employed here in the states as it would virtually eliminate municipal revenues originating from speeding infractions (a fiscal boon to most municipalities).
01-08-2008, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
This technology would likely not be employed here in the states as it would virtually eliminate municipal revenues originating from speeding infractions (a fiscal boon to most municipalities).
They will find a way to collect...this just makes it easier.Everytime the system is "tripped" by the driver....a signal will be sent to a database that will document the "infraction" and a ticket will be mailed to the registered address of the car. Similar to a red-light camera ticket...just a whole lot easier.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
They will find a way to collect...this just makes it easier.Everytime the system is "tripped" by the driver....a signal will be sent to a database that will document the "infraction" and a ticket will be mailed to the registered address of the car. Similar to a red-light camera ticket...just a whole lot easier.
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Not in our life time.
they would have to program a gps based device and have every last street programmed what speeds are where. As well as situation based speeding like passing cars when its appropriate.
01-08-2008, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by vetalik
Not in our life time.
they would have to program a gps based device and have every last street programmed what speeds are where. As well as situation based speeding like passing cars when its appropriate.
they would have to program a gps based device and have every last street programmed what speeds are where. As well as situation based speeding like passing cars when its appropriate.
These "speed maps" already exist. For example here is a map for Pasadena
http://www.ci.pasadena.ca.us/trans/t...imits_rev2.pdf
And here is one for Minnesota highways
http://www.dot.state.mn.us/speed/speedmap/index.html
As for passing, my understanding is that it is basically illegal to exceed the maximum posted speed, regardless of the situation( Can anyone confirm?)
I think the big worry with this isn't if they will or won't do, its the potential that this information holds- scary stuff
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Wonder how long it will take for someone to figure out how to deactivate it 
how long did it take a 15 or something year old to hack the unhackable iphone?
01-08-2008, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by vetalik
Not in our life time.
they would have to program a gps based device and have every last street programmed what speeds are where. As well as situation based speeding like passing cars when its appropriate.
they would have to program a gps based device and have every last street programmed what speeds are where. As well as situation based speeding like passing cars when its appropriate.
It's already being done.
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