RMATIC09

Wats the Diff btween HP, and WHP, and 40 Hp dosent seem worth 5.5 grand

tony4311

There's more then a 40hp gain. Check the sticky thread to see some dynos to compare to the 240, plus we don't know the torque it's putting out.

RMATIC09

Hmm...over 40 is appealing.

dzuy

hp is usually given as horsepower to the flywheel so before the loss of the tranny

whp is wheel horse power, which is what your car will put down to the ground after the loss of the tranny.

so 240 whp > 240 hp.

xizor

240WHP is about 283HP at the crank, actually not that bad

savage

so thats about a 83hp increase at the crank or if you want to consider whp, it will be about 70hp increase since the tsx dynos around 170 i believe, correct me if i am wrong...

sorry for my ranting...BUT where the hell is hondata...those guys are killin us...

iamhomin

So, exactly what was I ingrateful about?

Anyways, the supercharger for the TSX was inevitable, just because Comtech first introduced it doesn't mean it'll elicit fierceful competition.

And I still believe, the gains are pathetic relative to the $$$.

sauceman

If you read between the lines of that Hondata seminar resume thread, Hondata isn't anywhere near from coming up with a K-Pro for the TSX. Actually, they don't even hint there will be one.

Dan Martin

I wouldn't feel comfortable running the stock driveline with any more power than that. A 40% horsepower increase is pretty good. I'd be worried about the clutch and drive shafts with more power.

People should ask the question, how over engineered are the OEM parts to begin with? If you were designing a car from scratch why would you design a car that can accept 50-75% more power than it comes with from the factory? If I were an engineer and I knew my bonus was dependant on how much my design came in under budget, I would save everywhere I could. I wouldn't even think twice about adding redundancy for owners that want to bolt on a 12psi turbo and push 400hp to the wheels. If it gets from point a to point b with the OEM engine that's all I'd be concerned about.

I'm sure in the next couple years, high output kits will be available along with clutches and other driveline components for the all-out tuners. This kit looks like a great blend of performance and civility without having to worry about blowing something up.

heyitsme

Well something in the brochure is typed wrong, cause if they really wanted to show the difference between power of the stock tsx using whp, they would have listed it as ~170 not 200. From the context it sounds like they meant 240 at the crank.

xizor

The clutch will definately go quick. My friend's JRSC Prelude wore out his (fairly old) clutch to the point of slipping at WOT in about 2 monthes of hard driving.

xizor

well 80hp for $3500 is a lot better than 5hp for $800 for an exhaust.

corbs

But. . . I do think it's a bit high for a supercharger in general. Hopefully the street/internet prices will be closer $2750-3000. . . I can dream right?

dzuy

well, we design to have a 2x safety factor. of course, i don't work in the commercial industry, so cost isn't my concern in design

but that is true, in commercial, every penny saved is value added, esp in mass produced products such as cars.

ClutchPerformer

And 40HP for $3500 is STILL better than 5HP for $800.

dzuy

what about 0HP for $0.

that always sounds good to me.

Motohip

That's only a 20% increase over stock. JRSC always claims at least a 40% increase over stock even on the little D16's.