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Old 02-06-2005, 12:43 PM
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Pontiac: G8 news **Revival Speculation (page 17)**

Hearing rumors of Pontiac G8 replacing the Bonneville. Nothing official yet.
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I hope they make some of the proper changes that the Bonneville needs...
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If the current Bonny came out in the mid 90's, then it would have a stronger presence. It just came out at the wrong time. And now with the Grand Prix offereing a 5.2 or 3 Litre version of the LS1 engine, there is no need for the GXP bonny anymore.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
I hope they make some of the proper changes that the Bonneville needs...
You mean the whole car?
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Originally Posted by TSX 'R' US
You mean the whole car?
Exactly
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Originally Posted by TSX 'R' US
You mean the whole car?
I am expecting the rumored G8 to be as "redone" when compared to the Bonneville as the G6 was when compared to the Grand Am. IN other words a complete revamp. I just hope they do a better job on the driving dynamics when compared to the G6. The G6 talks the talk (outside looks) but does not walk the walk (driving characteristics).
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I am expecting the rumored G8 to be as "redone" when compared to the Bonneville as the G6 was when compared to the Grand Am. IN other words a complete revamp. I just hope they do a better job on the driving dynamics when compared to the G6. The G6 talks the talk (outside looks) but does not walk the walk (driving characteristics).
Agreed. The G6 looks great, IMO. I had a sneaking feeling that the power quiotent wouldn't be there, but i was hoping that maybe the divison would takes steps to lessen weight, improve driving dynamics, etc., to make up for it. Very much like BMW. But it just hasn't stepped like like I hoped it would. The G8 is a great chance to get it right... especially since it'll almost certainly come with a V8 in one trim of another.
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Future Products—Pontiac - - Source: Autoweek

GM has targeted the 2010 model year for the introduction of a sporty new sedan. GM is considering a V-8-powered, mid-sized rwd sedan based on its rwd global vehicle architecture. GM insiders say the vehicle would be "one notch up" from the Grand Prix in terms of performance, content and price. One possible name is G8.
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If it's ONE notch up from the Grand Prix, it better stay as a plan only. If it drives 90% like a 5-series, then bring it on.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
If it's ONE notch up from the Grand Prix, it better stay as a plan only. If it drives 90% like a 5-series, then bring it on.
My feelings exactly. It should offer a V8, and V6, and strive to drive as much like the 5-Series as possible.
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Why drop the Bonneville name?
....I know, I know everyone wants to be euro with letters and numbers, but the Bonneville name has some weight behind it...no? (no pun intended)
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Why drop the Bonneville name?
....I know, I know everyone wants to be euro with letters and numbers, but the Bonneville name has some weight behind it...no? (no pun intended)
The title of this thread is old... The Bonneville's demise done. The G8 will acutally replace the Grand Prix as the top sedan in the Pontiac lineup. It's still not confirmed as to whether the GP name will remain, but the rumored G8 name is likely. I agree with you on the names, BTW.
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2010 Pontiac G8 - - Source: http://info.detnews.com/

Pontiac may get 2010 Grand Prix replacement

General Motors Corp. engineers in Australia have been testing prototypes of a new rear-wheel-drive sedan that's being jointly developed with GM subsidiary Holden. Versions of the sedan are expected to be sold by Buick and Chevrolet. Pontiac also has been planning to market its own variant -- sort of a four-door companion to the next-generation GTO -- that would replace the current Grand Prix. The Pontiac version likely would be badged G8.
The first of the new models will go into production in mid-2009 in the U.S., in time for model year 2010. Of course, Holden will have its own editions as well, to replace the big Commodore and Statesman sedans.

-- Paul Lienert
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Originally Posted by gavriil


It's essemtially the Holden Commodore:
http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/...w?modelid=4005
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Originally Posted by ludachrisvt
boring
very boring
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Originally Posted by ludachrisvt
boring
MT did a recent cover story about "the next bonneville" and when I saw the photo my first thought was (stick with me, here) "it looks like a 2008, 2000 TL." By that I meant it looked much like my cusrrent 2000 TL, but freshened up a bit.

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I would totally love a Commodore SS
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Originally Posted by fast-tl
MT did a recent cover story about "the next bonneville" and when I saw the photo my first thought was (stick with me, here) "it looks like a 2008, 2000 TL." By that I meant it looked much like my cusrrent 2000 TL, but freshened up a bit.
That doesn't look bad at all. Yeah it's derivative, but nice nonetheless.
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Another image of the Statesman I found

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I think it'll make a fins Bonneville. Long live RWD! Rather than boring, as a 2000 TL owner, I refer to the lines as "classic", and the same applies to this car.
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Yeah, the Statesman is the shit. I think it's actually a longer version of the Commodore sedan (which is around 5-Series/M35 size). The Statesman is big enough to fuck with the flagship sedans (size wise, I mean). It'll be interesting to see what brands get what cars, and how much they'll be differentiated. I've read all kinks of rumors affecting the future lineups of Buick, Pontiac, and Chevy in regards to these two sedans (both share the Zeta architecture).
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VERY HAWT! Classic lines indeedy. Remind me of both an A6 and Impala.
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YES...they bringing the Vauhxhals and OPEL here!!!
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YES...they bringing the Vauhxhals and OPEL here!!!
Does Opel have versions of these Holdens already?
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Does Opel have versions of these Holdens already?
No, nothing even close. The UK has the Monaro/GTO but everything else is tiny. Up to a few years ago Opel had the Omega on the continent but that was a bit smaller than the Statesman.

The Omega was a badass car w/300hp back when 300hp was a lot. It came here as the first Catera (WAY watered down of course) IIRC
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Originally Posted by charliemike
No, nothing even close. The UK has the Monaro/GTO but everything else is tiny. Up to a few years ago Opel had the Omega on the continent but that was a bit smaller than the Statesman.

The Omega was a badass car w/300hp back when 300hp was a lot. It came here as the first Catera (WAY watered down of course) IIRC
I didn't think so. I was just responding to Black Tire's post. The Omega was definitely bad ass. Some say Opel may get a Zeta for a reincarnated Omega...
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Holden Commodore SS set to become Pontiac G8 - - Source: Autoweek

General Motors is expected to expand Pontiac's U.S. product line with a rebadged rear-drive Australian sedan.

The Holden Commodore SS will be called the Pontiac G8 and priced around $25,000, according to the Herald Sun in Melbourne, Australia.

While GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz did not confirm the plan, he told the newspaper, "It's such a logical thing to do. The volume range is 30,000 to 50,000. It depends on how we price it." He refused to say when shipments might begin.

Lutz said details would be revealed next month.

"We have yet to make an official announcement," Lutz said. "Much more will be revealed at the Chicago show."

This will be GM's second try at selling a rebadged Holden model as a Pontiac in the United States. The Holden Monaro was marketed as the Pontiac GTO for the 2004 to 2006 model years. Sales did not live up to expectations.
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Looks pretty nice. With RWD it could be a cheap alternative to a 3-Series.
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Reminds me of the last gen Mazda Protege a bit.. but its nice! Im glad pontiac is going this route.
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Originally Posted by agranado
Reminds me of the last gen Mazda Protege a bit.. but its nice! Im glad pontiac is going this route.
I dunno, I think I had it pegged even closer:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...4&postcount=17
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Looks pretty nice. With RWD it could be a cheap alternative to a 3-Series.
The price and G8 name imply it's slotted above the G6, aka full size Grand Prix replacement. I don't think the Holden is as big as the normal Big 3 full size car though. GM is definitely getting up to speed lately, now the biggest holdup for me is resale value. That should go up once they weed the rest of the crap out of the lineups.
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Yes, it's coming. Good news today. The Commodore SS is the high performance V8 version of the car. I hope that the SS version comes in addition to a standard car with the HFV6 in it. Offering this car with just a V8 would be foolish.
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Originally Posted by alex2364
Looks pretty nice. With RWD it could be a cheap alternative to a 3-Series.
This car's size and specs will draw direct comarison with the 5-Series, and I think this car will probably be marketed/viewed as the everyman's 5-Series. It'll draw a price comparison with the 3, ofcourse, but that's about it, IMHO.
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I like that they are bringing it over but I don't like how "boy racer" it is ... A little more subdued would be nice.
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For those that regard the VE or upcoming Pontiac G8 as boring and looking like a Cadillac Catera.

With 50:50 weight distribution, wheels pushed to the sides and short front and rear overhang this car is an excellent handler (old BMW like, maybe even better than new BMW). It should also have the grunty and highly modable GenIV LSx V8 engine.

Add in the GenTTr turbo kits................700+hp easy (lsiturbo.com.au)



Cadillac Catera

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Interior



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Holden VE and soon to be Pontiac G8

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The car should be pretty hot. I am patiently awaiting it's arrival. I may be purchasing one as a family hauler.
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The car should be pretty hot. I am patiently awaiting it's arrival. I may be purchasing one as a family hauler.
Yeah, I'd take one over a 300 off of looks alone. The icing on the cake is that this is supposed to be a great handling sports sedan.
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When is this due in the states???
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Hopefully it wont be a fugly Pontiac front end. That is what killed the GTO.
Otherwise, buy it and put on the Commodore front bar. Perfect!


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