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Old 02-23-2006, 05:05 PM
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Most-Reliable Luxury Cars 2006 according to Forbes

Acura RSX coupe

Base price: $20,325

Received top marks from: J.D. Power (overall quality)

Acura's RSX coupe is the brand's entry-level model.

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Infiniti FX sport utility vehicle

Base price: $37,800

Received top marks from: Consumer Reports

Infiniti's FX is one of our favorite SUVs. It is attractive, comfortable and sporty--closer to a sports car, in fact, than a typical SUV.

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Infiniti M sedan

Base price: $40,840

Received top marks from: Consumer Reports

Infiniti's M sedan is one of the most exciting luxury cars on the market, with a handsome, well-built interior and outstanding driving dynamics.

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Jaguar X-Type sedan and wagon

Base price: $32,995

Received top marks from: J.D. Power (overall quality)

An under-performer in the showroom as well as a lackluster vehicle compared with such competitors as BMW's 3 Series, Jag's X-Type gets a bit of redemption from its high J.D. Power rating.

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Lexus GS sedan

Base price: $43,845
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Received top marks from: Consumer Reports and J.D. Power (overall dependability)

Lexus' GS sedan recently became much sportier and more dynamic-looking following an overhaul. A gas/electric hybrid version of the car is due out this spring.

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Lexus GX sport utility vehicle

Base price: $47,330

Received top marks from: J.D. Power (overall quality)

Lexus' GX is an outstanding midsize SUV based on Toyota's 4Runner.

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Lexus IS sedan

Base price: $30,580

Received top marks from: Consumer Reports and J.D. Power (overall quality)

Like the GS, Lexus' IS sedan was recently overhauled and is now much sharper, as well as faster.

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Lexus LS sedan

Base price: $57,220

Received top marks from: Consumer Reports and J.D. Power (overall quality and dependability)

Although Lexus sold more SUVs than passenger cars in 2005, the LS sedan is still for many people the symbol of the brand. Its reliability, reasonable price and beautiful interior make it the Lexus that many dream of owning.

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Lexus LX sport utility vehicle

Base price: $68,090

Received top marks from: J.D. Power (overall dependability)

Lexus' old-but-good LX flagship SUV is not the sportiest ride, but it is quiet and relaxing, and will last as long as a luxury car can last.

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Lexus RX sport utility vehicle

Base price: $37,400

Received top marks from: Consumer Reports and J.D. Power (overall quality)

J.D. Power has singled out both the gasoline and the gas/electric hybrid versions of Lexus' RX SUV as having exceptional quality.

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LexusSC convertible

Base price: $66,050

Received top marks from: Consumer Reports and J.D. Power (overall quality)

Known in the auto business as more of a woman's car than a man's car, the Lexus SC should more appropriately be called a smart person's car, given its track record for durability.

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LincolnTown Car sedan

Base price: $42,875

Received top marks from: J.D. Power (overall dependability)

No wonder so many livery drivers and executive chauffeurs depend on Lincoln's Town Car: because they can. At least they can depend on it more than they could depend on nearly any other premium sedan.

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Porsche 911 convertible and coupe

Base price: $71,300

Received top marks from: J.D. Power (overall dependability)

Porsche learned manufacturing techniques from the Japanese. Like Japanese automakers, the company practices kaizen, or constant improvement, in its manufacturing processes. The 911's reliability speaks to Porsche's success in building cars that last.

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ToyotaLand Cruiser sport utility vehicle

Base price: $56,215

Received top marks from: Consumer Reports

Toyota's Land Cruiser flagship SUV is a down-market version of Lexus' LX 470. If you are considering either vehicle, note that the Toyota costs almost $12,000 less.
Source: http://www.forbes.com/
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X-Type???? If this is true, then Jag needs to do a better job of marketing quality
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No wonder so many livery drivers and executive chauffeurs depend on Lincoln's Town Car: because they can. At least they can depend on it more than they could depend on nearly any other premium sedan.

Gross!

Why is the RSX there? That's not a luxury car. And I'm shocked that a Lincoln was in there.
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Dam, Lexus owned
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Originally Posted by phile
Dam, Lexus owned
I thought the same. Also, no Benz, Caddy, or Bimmer?
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so basically anything Lexus is money...
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Originally Posted by Motohip
Why is the RSX there? That's not a luxury car. And I'm shocked that a Lincoln was in there.
The Town Car is a luxurious car, and it's reliable. Why shouldn't Forbes put it there if they deem it worthy? The RSX... They considered all premium/lux makes when making their decision.
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Originally Posted by srika
so basically anything Lexus is money...
Except the ES, for some odd reason.
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Originally Posted by Zoot
X-Type???? If this is true, then Jag needs to do a better job of marketing quality
^ I agree.
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The Lexus RX is dead wrong. My mom has one and there have been atleast 5 safety recalls on the car. She just got one a few weeks back for a seat belt recall.
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at least infiniti is getting in the mix now.
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Originally Posted by 03TL-S
at least infiniti is getting in the mix now.
Yep.
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RSX luxury
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Originally Posted by titan
Except the ES, for some odd reason.
Wow I didn't even notice it was missing.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
RSX luxury
I know, of all the Acura model to have made it on there, they pick the RSX
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Originally Posted by titan
The Town Car is a luxurious car, and it's reliable. Why shouldn't Forbes put it there if they deem it worthy? The RSX... They considered all premium/lux makes when making their decision.
I'm just shocked that a Ford product is reliable.
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Originally Posted by titan
^ I agree.

The X type is a black dot in Consumer reports. Statistically just about ever other near-lux car is better with the exception of the C class.
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Originally Posted by titan
I thought the same. Also, no Benz, Caddy, or Bimmer?

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Originally Posted by ilitig8
The X type is a black dot in Consumer reports. Statistically just about ever other near-lux car is better with the exception of the C class.
I know. The point is, Jag should take this from Forbes, and advertise it. Whether it's true or not, it's about sales.
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
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Hehehe
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Originally Posted by Maximized
The Lexus RX is dead wrong. My mom has one and there have been atleast 5 safety recalls on the car. She just got one a few weeks back for a seat belt recall.

I dont think recalls should qualify as true realibility issues. Recalls are preventative for something that may break but because it could cause an accident and hurt a passenger it has to be recalled.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
RSX luxury



IMO it completely discredits the entire article. Not that anyone didn't know prior to thr article that most everything toyota makes is reliable.
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Did Toyota write this?
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I dont think recalls should qualify as true realibility issues. Recalls are preventative for something that may break but because it could cause an accident and hurt a passenger it has to be recalled.

Why it's a defect? For example, the radiator supports crack under cold conditions, which caused Lexus to issue a recall.
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I'm surprised that the IS350 made the list, since it just came out less than 6 month ago.

EDIT: Oh wait, they said IS (300?) .
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Originally Posted by Motohip
Did Toyota write this?
yup - Toyota wrote the book on reliability.
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My car not on the list?
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I dont think recalls should qualify as true realibility issues. Recalls are preventative for something that may break but because it could cause an accident and hurt a passenger it has to be recalled.
I agree. In fact I meant to write pretty much the same thing yesterday, I just caught up with something else.

A recall on a vehicle doesn't (necessarily) mean it's not reliable.
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Originally Posted by srika

A recall on a vehicle doesn't (necessarily) mean it's not reliable.
Huh? A radiator support that can crack and render the car un-driveable is reliable???

Using that logic, TSB's don't mean that it's not reliable.
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Originally Posted by AsianRage
I'm surprised that the IS350 made the list, since it just came out less than 6 month ago.

EDIT: Oh wait, they said IS (300?) .
Nope, it's for the new models. Same story with the GS and Infiniti M.
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Originally Posted by Maximized
Huh? A radiator support that can crack and render the car un-driveable is reliable???

Using that logic, TSB's don't mean that it's not reliable.
a radiator can crack on ANY car and render it undriveable. a car is only unreliable if it ACTUALLY CRACKS. do you rather they dont do a recall and have it actually crack?
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Originally Posted by phile
Nope, it's for the new models. Same story with the GS and Infiniti M.
Then it's premature to declare is as being MOST reliable when a year hasn't even passed by.
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Originally Posted by srika
I agree. In fact I meant to write pretty much the same thing yesterday, I just caught up with something else.

A recall on a vehicle doesn't (necessarily) mean it's not reliable.

Especially when it's a proactive re-call not a re-active one...
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Originally Posted by gilboman
a radiator can crack on ANY car and render it undriveable. a car is only unreliable if it ACTUALLY CRACKS. do you rather they dont do a recall and have it actually crack?
Well obviously this problem occured on some cars, therefore a recall was issued. A reliable car isn't one that you have to take to the dealer 5+ times to fix various engineering flaws.
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A proActive recall doesn't make a car any more desirable, I mean reliable, cough cough. A reliable vehicle is one that is built right the first time, straight from the drawings to the auto workers hands. Recalls are after thoughts, like oh shit we f'ed that one up, better fix it now rather than later... That doesn't make the first year (or specific year) car that was affected before the recall reliable- it makes it fixed after the unreliable year/s.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
RSX luxury
That really depends on how one defines luxury- hopefully price isn't one of those specs: built in japan, xx power to weight ratio that is comparible to a 3.5 vq auto sedan, leather seats, auto climate, 7-speaker bose audio system, 17" wheels, nice handling, etc. Think the RSX's real prob is that its a 23k Acura and not a 33k German luxury coupe.
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Then it's premature to declare is as being MOST reliable when a year hasn't even passed by.
The thing is, these reliability measures rely on old data for new models. Which is one reason why Toyota and Honda are on top year after year, but upstarts like Kia and Hyundai must steadily build their reputation for years before it's reflected in these things. Likewise, the Germans' downward spiral will haunt them for years.
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hmm I guess that underscore the argument that Honda is only really good at making small cars ?
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Since when does Forbes get to say anything about cars? What's next - Reader's Digest rankings?
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