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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 12:18 PM
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This site has a lot of specific information about the 2004 TL. The Technical information is amazingly under the Technical area.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 12:45 PM
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This website has a lot of answers to questions raised here and on other forums. It again mentions the A-Spec package, states that the moonroof is larger and features one-touch controls in the overhead console, and that the DVD-A system will not play DVD movies, mp3 or wma encoded discs. Check it out.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 02:36 PM
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Sennis14 - thanks for posting this, it does have quite a bit of information that I found very informative, spent my lunch reading it!
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 02:41 PM
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The in-depth descriptions and competitive analysis in the "Technical" section are great!
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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Where does it mention that it will not play DVD Movies?

According to Edmunds Review they said you can watch a DVD Movie while in Park..
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 07:43 PM
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According to edmunds, the TSX M/T goes 0-60 in 8.2 seconds.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 07:46 PM
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Also, looks like the foglights are built into the headlight housing! So no foglights on the lower lip I kind of like the fogs on the lower valance of a car! I guess I will have to live with them where they put them
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by 2004TL
Where does it mention that it will not play DVD Movies?

According to Edmunds Review they said you can watch a DVD Movie while in Park..
"(The system will not play DVD movies, DVD-V, DVD-R/RW, MP3 or WMA media.)" Interior - Part 2

Note that the Edmunds Review said you can watch a DVD movie on the navigation screen while in park, the Press Release is talking about the sound system.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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Last night I recall a post mentioning that playing DVD movies in Park on the TSX was possible. Does anyone else recall that post and if so is it correct?
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 10:12 PM
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I just finished reading the TL specifications. There is some really great information. Recommended reading if you have the time!

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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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Do we know if it has a tire pressure monitoring system? I found it for the MDX, but nothing on the TL.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 11:29 PM
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Noobie here, 1st time caller, long time listener...

After reading the drivetrain technical features, I noticed that the exhaust manifolds are cast in one piece with the heads and the 1st stage of catalytic converters is apparently integrated in the same assembly before a "2-1 pipe", which feeds into the secondary converter.

Question is this - would this configuration not prevent installation of aftermarket headers?

Also, it discusses the clutch design for the 6MT. Does anyone know if the shock isolator feature of the clutch was also used in the CL-S 6MT clutch? Seems like this would add some "sludginess", which I though buyers of 6MTs were trying to avoid.

Finally, looking at the interior pix, it appears (though I'm not sure) that the center console backlighting color may be based on the inetrior color. It appears that the ebony and quartz interiors have blue backlighting in the center console, while the parchment and camel may have more of a yellow/tan backlighting. Could just be poor quality of the pictures.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 12:17 PM
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Anyone notice that there is a backup sensor available as an accessory? I've never seen this as a dealer add on like this. Maybe I'm just out of the loop...

One other thing. I also noticed that there is still only a passthrough in the rear seat. Why no fold down seats?
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by Myrddin157
Anyone notice that there is a backup sensor available as an accessory? I've never seen this as a dealer add on like this. Maybe I'm just out of the loop...

Yeah, I'm curious about this as well. I'd like to have it installed if it is reasonably priced.

I'm really surprised about the number of add-ons available for the TL. I definitley plan on adding a few of them.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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Funny, I just asked the same question in another thread.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by RJC RSX
According to edmunds, the TSX M/T goes 0-60 in 8.2 seconds.
Yet another reviewer that forgot to turn off the VSA before running their speed tests.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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Well, I've learned some pretty scary stuff in the past couple of days...

According to the specs on Honda's website, the TL 6MT has a 60-0 stopping distance of 130ft. while the AT is 131. If the Brembos are only offering a 1 ft. advantage, I'm not that sure they're worth the extra $$. HPT makes things better, dropping the distance to 122 ft. Interestingly enough, though, the G35 only takes 110ft. with its stock tires.

Also, I went to Tirerack and read some very positive reviews on Turanza tires (the Turanza LS-Z, which I assumed would be the tires on the car). Unfortunately, I zoomed in on one of the newly-released gallery photos and found that the standard tires are the Turanza EL42. It seems like these tires are used on a whole host of vehicles (including the G35 and 7-series), but here is a link to the tirerack reviews:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....l=Turanza+EL42

http://www.tirerack.com/survey/Surve...ommentStatus=P

Since this model encompasses a wide variety of sizes, I'm not sure if this info is accurate, but I was surprised to see how markedly different these ratings were vs. the LS-Z tires.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 11:50 PM
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if even 6mt will brake for 130ft with brembo brakes..i think there's a major problem....consider G35 does it in 110 and BMW 330i does it in 120....thats gonna put tl right at the bottom grrrr >___<
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 12:18 AM
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if even 6mt will brake for 130ft with brembo brakes..i think there's a major problem....consider G35 does it in 110 and BMW 330i does it in 120....thats gonna put tl right at the bottom grrrr >___<
Unless all three are tested under the same conditions I would not worry too much about that difference. Road surface variation, temperatures, tire condition, etc. can cause a difference more than that.

In a comparison test one would still have to factor in the margin for error. A number of years ago Road and Track had an article where they computed how much variation was significant. Unfortunately I don't have that issue now...

BTW, I'm not sure if the Brembo's would help the stopping distance, since with ABS the limiting factor is probably the tires. But the Brembo's would hold up better under repeated braking.

A comparison test would certainly be interesting reading!

-r
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 06:07 AM
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Regardless, the TL was never known for it's great braking and I thought it would improve to better fit in with the pack!

I think my 92 Camry-SE-V6 stopped in 125 and that thing was a boat!
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Old Sep 5, 2003 | 03:26 PM
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Since this thread is about specifics, when should those who placed deposits/orders receive production information about their TL's, e.g. VIN number, build dates, delivery dates?

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